|
a long feature here from the austin american statesman looking back at flyering, banner drops and harassment by vanguard america (later patriot front) and other groups targeting texas state university in san marcos: https://www.statesman.com/news/20181005/inside-texas-states-year-of-hate-neo-nazi-propaganda-fight quote:Students and faculty immediately began imploring university administrators to move quickly to quash what they considered dangerous hate speech spreading across campus. “We are not dealing with ‘different opinions’ here,” wrote assistant religious studies and philosophy professor Rebecca Raphael in an email to university Provost Eugene Bourgeois. “These are threats of physical assault. University leadership needs to call it what it is, and not treat this as if it’s part of academic discourse.” quote:Internal records show neo-Nazi incidents at Texas State did not occur in a vacuum. In the weeks following the 2016 election, students and faculty reported: death threats against gay students; Latino students being told to “go back to Mexico”; and minority students harassed as they walked through campus. Officials said the incidents were referred to university police, though the school reported zero hate crimes that year. quote:At least four separate groups claimed credit for the Texas State attacks: the Texas State Vigilantes; an unnamed group linked to the prominent neo-Nazi website the Daily Stormer; American Vanguard, a white supremacist group that held a rally in front of the Texas Capitol in June 2017; and the Patriot Front, an anti-Semitic and white supremacist group that recently has engaged in physical conflicts with protesters opposed to Trump immigration policies in San Antonio. https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1006234699814010880 back to the statesman: quote:In late October, the campus received a barrage of propaganda attacks from the Patriot Front, including the hanging of a large banner across the university’s Alkek Library on the main quad. In online chats obtained by the independent media organization Unicorn Riot, Sailors, the former student who’s now a Patriot Front leader, posted a photo of the banner, as well as Twitter posts from students responding to it. “20 mins of work and we trigger hundreds,” Sailors wrote, noting the action marked the group’s fifth attack at Texas State. BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 22:29 on Oct 8, 2018 |
#
?
Oct 8, 2018 22:27
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 4, 2024 01:38 |
|
|
BrutalistMcDonalds posted:a long feature here from the austin american statesman looking back at flyering, banner drops and harassment by vanguard america (later patriot front) and other groups targeting texas state university in san marcos:
|
|
#
?
Oct 8, 2018 23:15
|
|
|
^ i'm thinking the same thing missed this, but an article from late last month detailed a non-violent encounter with around 20 proud boys in forth worth: https://www.fwweekly.com/2018/09/26/proud-boys-crash-local-pub quote:“I looked around and saw all these guys,” Wilkinson said, “and I didn’t know who they were, but there were 11 or 12 of them standing around, and when [Green] started talking to one of them, that’s when they all started to come over.”
|
|
#
?
Oct 8, 2018 23:20
|
|
|
BrutalistMcDonalds posted:a long feature here from the austin american statesman looking back at flyering, banner drops and harassment by vanguard america (later patriot front) and other groups targeting texas state university in san marcos: Did my undergrad there and I'm not at all surprised that they chose Texas State. San Marcos is kind of an unfortunate confluence of Austin locals who couldn't make it to UT and country kids whose parents don't want them to be exposed to the libruls at UT. Admin has always been kind of a trash fire too, but it's been more obvious since this started. There was also the incident with the racist student council president last year iirc.
|
|
#
?
Oct 8, 2018 23:29
|
|
|
BrutalistMcDonalds posted:^ i'm thinking the same thing They're definitely gonna go try to pretend it didn't happen, but I don't think they're gonna go back to libertarian rhetoric. The fight over repealing Obamacare showed just how much of a nonstarter that is. I think they're gonna go back to a GWB inspired "compassionate conservatism" model that's just fine with deficit spending and a bloated military budget, so long as the correct (read: white) people get the benefits. They'll call it something else, of course, and it'll be less overtly Christian, but it'll be the same poo poo.
|
|
#
?
Oct 8, 2018 23:33
|
|
|
Azathoth posted:They're definitely gonna go try to pretend it didn't happen, but I don't think they're gonna go back to libertarian rhetoric. The fight over repealing Obamacare showed just how much of a nonstarter that is. I'm thinking civNat could be what they end up on. Less christian, and defangs the criticism of racism (while reifying institutional racism, etc) edit: so yeah, GWB pre 9/11 preaching isolationism right up until the next war Grimoire has issued a correction as of 23:47 on Oct 8, 2018 |
|
#
?
Oct 8, 2018 23:40
|
|
|
they're gonna pay thinktanks a trillion dollars to come up with a new name for "national socialism"
|
|
#
?
Oct 8, 2018 23:42
|
|
|
SpaceGoku posted:they're gonna pay thinktanks a trillion dollars to come up with a new name for "national socialism" And then adopt something some slapstick posted on 4chan.
|
|
#
?
Oct 8, 2018 23:51
|
|
|
SpaceGoku posted:they're gonna pay thinktanks a trillion dollars to come up with a new name for "national socialism" "Americanism". Not kidding.
|
|
#
?
Oct 9, 2018 00:15
|
|
|
BrutalistMcDonalds posted:So train derailer boi was tied up with Heimbach's crew. in the middle of nebraska, though? were there any black people that train? Zeroisanumber posted:Should get some people to distract the rank and file and then send another few 'round back to mess up McInnes. A few pops to the jaw would probably take the starch right out of his shorts. TenementFunster has issued a correction as of 00:44 on Oct 9, 2018 |
|
#
?
Oct 9, 2018 00:36
|
|
|
BrutalistMcDonalds posted:As for McInnes’s presence, I showed a photo of him to Green, Phillips, and Wilkinson. They all confirmed that he was there, sort of hovering in the back of the sea of black polos. What they were doing in Fort Worth is anyone’s guess. Should get some people to distract the rank and file and then send another few 'round back to mess up McInnes. A few pops to the jaw would probably take the starch right out of his shorts.
|
|
#
?
Oct 9, 2018 00:39
|
|
|
The rot is in the brain now. The republican party is already acclimating to power without further ideology and the fascist impulse toward cruelty and domination for its own sake is a clean fit into their existing inclinations. The already thin line is dissolving and the difference between the filth we watch in this thread and the filth controlling every branch of the government is increasingly a matter of pure aesthetics. This doesn't get better.
|
|
#
?
Oct 9, 2018 01:06
|
|
|
Epic High Five posted:lol you'd think they would've moved off of discord by now but welp They're structurally incapable of good infosec because 99% of the membership got their inroads via heavily anonymized Facebook and Twitter profiles. They could be running a VPN to a virtual machine that's ssh tunneling to a mattermost server hidden in the basement wall of a house in Paris and they'd still be leaky as poo poo because they'll let anyone who's a poster into their high level command structure and then rattle off a list of their fears.
|
|
#
?
Oct 9, 2018 01:44
|
|
|
is the 1776 discord still a thing? did it ever get leaked?
|
|
#
?
Oct 9, 2018 01:47
|
|
|
TenementFunster posted:after trump is gone, when these losers go back to claiming they are “libertarians” and need to get jobs, they’ll say they were only pretending to be Nazis for the lulz. it depends how trump goes. if loses in 2020 badly or some how gets kicked out/quits/etc. they will slink off to libertarian land or rapture or whatever. a majority will try to erase their sites/profiles and hope they won't get hosed job wise. If trump wins somehow or he gets murdered. they will stick around. Pope Guilty posted:The rot is in the brain now. The republican party is already acclimating to power without further ideology and the fascist impulse toward cruelty and domination for its own sake is a clean fit into their existing inclinations. The already thin line is dissolving and the difference between the filth we watch in this thread and the filth controlling every branch of the government is increasingly a matter of pure aesthetics. you have a point. I think the Base is now hooked on high grade fach cruelty. like i said above, i think the GOP will react depending on what happens with trump.
|
|
#
?
Oct 9, 2018 01:55
|
|
|
TenementFunster posted:
From the article: quote:
Are there black people in California? Also, according to census.gov, there are approximately 20 black people in Furnas County, NE where the incident took place. This is only 0.4% of the population, but yes there are even black people in the middle of Nebraska. Crotch Gandhi has issued a correction as of 02:31 on Oct 9, 2018 |
|
#
?
Oct 9, 2018 01:59
|
|
|
Pope Guilty posted:The rot is in the brain now. The republican party is already acclimating to power without further ideology and the fascist impulse toward cruelty and domination for its own sake is a clean fit into their existing inclinations. The already thin line is dissolving and the difference between the filth we watch in this thread and the filth controlling every branch of the government is increasingly a matter of pure aesthetics. Yup, I feel like the Kavanaugh fiasco is the watershed here. He's a lying, alcoholic rapist by any objective standard and pretty much every conservative in the country came out of the woodwork to go to bat for him because he's "their guy". Sycophantic greaseballs who'd give them the jurisprudence they want are probably a dime a dozen and they could have discarded him and found a cleaner one if they actually gave a poo poo, but, it turns out, beating the libs at all costs is an end unto itself so they made a shameless power play to put (another) rapist on the Supreme Court. I mean...it doesn't surprise me that conservatives acted like this, but I don't feel like there's been any fight or issue prior to this that's brought all corners of the Republican party together in defense of such unambiguous evil.
|
|
#
?
Oct 9, 2018 02:01
|
|
|
Pornographic Memory posted:Yup, I feel like the Kavanaugh fiasco is the watershed here. He's a lying, alcoholic rapist by any objective standard and pretty much every conservative in the country came out of the woodwork to go to bat for him because he's "their guy". Sycophantic greaseballs who'd give them the jurisprudence they want are probably a dime a dozen and they could have discarded him and found a cleaner one if they actually gave a poo poo, but, it turns out, beating the libs at all costs is an end unto itself so they made a shameless power play to put (another) rapist on the Supreme Court. I mean...it doesn't surprise me that conservatives acted like this, but I don't feel like there's been any fight or issue prior to this that's brought all corners of the Republican party together in defense of such unambiguous evil. Honestly this, but Trump.
|
|
#
?
Oct 9, 2018 02:03
|
|
|
Pornographic Memory posted:Yup, I feel like the Kavanaugh fiasco is the watershed here. He's a lying, alcoholic rapist by any objective standard and pretty much every conservative in the country came out of the woodwork to go to bat for him because he's "their guy". Sycophantic greaseballs who'd give them the jurisprudence they want are probably a dime a dozen and they could have discarded him and found a cleaner one if they actually gave a poo poo, but, it turns out, beating the libs at all costs is an end unto itself so they made a shameless power play to put (another) rapist on the Supreme Court. I mean...it doesn't surprise me that conservatives acted like this, but I don't feel like there's been any fight or issue prior to this that's brought all corners of the Republican party together in defense of such unambiguous evil. says increasingly nervous succ for 329857th time this year as the oven lights dance at his feet
|
|
#
?
Oct 9, 2018 02:06
|
|
|
or was it the literal brown child genocide camps was that not "it" for ya btw they announced they're tripling it in size today
|
|
#
?
Oct 9, 2018 02:07
|
|
|
Pornographic Memory posted:Yup, I feel like the Kavanaugh fiasco is the watershed here. He's a lying, alcoholic rapist by any objective standard and pretty much every conservative in the country came out of the woodwork to go to bat for him because he's "their guy". Sycophantic greaseballs who'd give them the jurisprudence they want are probably a dime a dozen and they could have discarded him and found a cleaner one if they actually gave a poo poo, but, it turns out, beating the libs at all costs is an end unto itself so they made a shameless power play to put (another) rapist on the Supreme Court. I mean...it doesn't surprise me that conservatives acted like this, but I don't feel like there's been any fight or issue prior to this that's brought all corners of the Republican party together in defense of such unambiguous evil. Brett Kavanaugh Is A Man The Right Can Get Behind quote:[I]t should be easy enough to withdraw [Kavanaugh's] nomination and move along to the next crypto-Nazi cottage cheese sculpture in the pipeline. He’d breeze through confirmation, whoever he was: You could pretty much count on the Senate Judiciary Committee’s terminally third-brained centrist Democrats lining up to play themselves. And that would be a success, theoretically: A new, arch-conservative Supreme Court justice, possibly even one not tainted by a credible accusation that he once tried to rape a child.
|
|
#
?
Oct 9, 2018 02:09
|
|
|
It's also about those rich white dudes as proxies for themselves. It's why Trump ultimately had such appeal: he's exactly what every conservative wishes they could be. Rich, belligerent, domineering, vengeful, and immune to consequences.
|
|
#
?
Oct 9, 2018 02:12
|
|
|
I'm still not sure at times that I've fully come to grips with the realization that a third of the country are gleeful fascists and at least another sixth are willing to let them run amok in order to satisfy their greed. Can you teach people to not be like this, or do you just have to try your best to mitigate and marginalize them?
|
|
#
?
Oct 9, 2018 02:17
|
|
|
when he dies its gonna be the republican version of who killed jfk w/r/t whodunnit via q anon illuminati but hes still alive and secretly declared martial law you could convnice people to start killing for that, if you did the first one yoruself
|
|
#
?
Oct 9, 2018 02:17
|
|
|
fool_of_sound posted:It's also about those rich white dudes as proxies for themselves. It's why Trump ultimately had such appeal: he's exactly what every conservative wishes they could be. Rich, belligerent, domineering, vengeful, and immune to consequences. but he also looks grotesque and he has this pathetic quality, so he's relatable
|
|
#
?
Oct 9, 2018 02:18
|
|
|
Isn't there a murder fantasy white man killing spree movie coming out where this bahama shirt wearing guy gets terminal cancer so he just decides to go around loving murdering people for perceived slights was that real or was that a fever dream you know these loving people will be watching that and it'll be like fight clup for them they'll start founding murder clubs in places like santa barbara and they're gonna kill for sport and get away with it or was that just a loving dream did that happen
|
|
#
?
Oct 9, 2018 02:21
|
|
|
Martin Random posted:when he dies its gonna be the republican version of who killed jfk w/r/t whodunnit via q anon illuminati but hes still alive and secretly declared martial law I'm still not sure how may qanon types genuinely believe it in the sense that they will actually go shoot up pizza parlors or whatever, and how many are just doing the general right wing political kabuki self-gaslighting thing.
|
|
#
?
Oct 9, 2018 02:22
|
|
|
fool_of_sound posted:I'm still not sure at times that I've fully come to grips with the realization that a third of the country are gleeful fascists and at least another sixth are willing to let them run amok in order to satisfy their greed. Can you teach people to not be like this, or do you just have to try your best to mitigate and marginalize them? People usually have their ideological outlook set by the time they reach their 30s, so you can't just train them out of it. You have to defeat them thoroughly and utterly, by any means necessary.
|
|
#
?
Oct 9, 2018 02:24
|
|
|
Martin Random posted:Isn't there a murder fantasy white man killing spree movie coming out where this bahama shirt wearing guy gets terminal cancer so he just decides to go around loving murdering people for perceived slights yeah. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_Bless_America_(film)
|
|
#
?
Oct 9, 2018 02:24
|
|
|
Like that's ultimately the difference between your average right wing crypto fascist and an out fascist. At some level the crypto fascists understand that their principles are awful and unaceptable and if revealed with lead to them being ostracized, so the right wing media spends it's entire time creating flimsy justifications and obfuscations for those principles. They don't have to be particularly good, because the right wingers don't need to believe them as a matter of faith: their purpose is about 25% to quiet the cognitive dissonance, and 75% to use as a rhetorical bludgeon. If one argument fails they just switch to the next one without a problem.
|
|
#
?
Oct 9, 2018 02:26
|
|
|
Pener Kropoopkin posted:People usually have their ideological outlook set by the time they reach their 30s, so you can't just train them out of it. You have to defeat them thoroughly and utterly, by any means necessary. I mean, can you teach kids to not be little monstrous fascists when they grow up, or does society just have to deal with a third of its members being 100% behind tearing everything down out of spite.
|
|
#
?
Oct 9, 2018 02:27
|
|
|
fool_of_sound posted:I mean, can you teach kids to not be little monstrous fascists when they grow up, or does society just have to deal with a third of its members being 100% behind tearing everything down out of spite. Sure you can do that, but first you also have to dismantle the cultural institutions that put parents at the center of all important decisions regarding their children. All the institutions that tell them it's ok to be bigoted against all sorts of people that aren't like them, and which shield them from the consequences when they act out on their own sense of privilege. The rot is at the very core of American culture itself, and it's hard to imagine being able to resolve it without a civil war that utterly defeats the reactionary current in society. We live in a country that values above all other things, the right to be a shithead.
|
|
#
?
Oct 9, 2018 02:32
|
|
|
Yeah to do that you have to do stuff like stop allowing people to homeschool their kids on the basis that public schools no longer require kids to say "under God" every morning or w/e
|
|
#
?
Oct 9, 2018 02:35
|
|
|
This rises to the level of criminality which is recognized under the federal RICO statutes... I think... maybe... hey... I've got a law degree in california and a lot of time wanna do a big loving RICO ??? we could use comet pizza as a named plaintiff but make it a class action Ford has been harmed. Every loving facebook chud is liable. and document this vast right wing conspiracy now that we actually have the loving data tools and these people are lying openly and causing harm and sue under RICO and add a shitload of people for acts in furtherance of the underlying offense millions or just the nazis themselves. THis stuff from Gorski, linking these guys and her other data work, when assembled, can make an organized crime civil case. Martin Random has issued a correction as of 02:42 on Oct 9, 2018 |
|
#
?
Oct 9, 2018 02:38
|
|
|
Crotch Gandhi posted:Also, according to census.gov, there are approximately 20 black people in Furnas County, NE where the incident took place. This is only 0.4% of the population, but yes there are even black people in the middle of Nebraska. Martin Random posted:This rises to the level of criminality which is recognized under the federal RICO statutes... TenementFunster has issued a correction as of 02:49 on Oct 9, 2018 |
|
#
?
Oct 9, 2018 02:44
|
|
|
TenementFunster posted:yes, thanks for explaining my joke. if you're trying to save something from black people, rural Nebraska seems like an odd place to start. can i have some of your money
|
|
#
?
Oct 9, 2018 02:44
|
|
|
Pener Kropoopkin posted:People who fetishize civilization just don't get that cities exist to organize economic activity, and don't fulfill some higher purpose or ideal. i'm reading al-Muqadimmah by Ibn Khaldun and even in 1377 we knew that this was how poo poo worked. He outright says that the sedentary nature of city life brings prosperity because it frees people up from subsistence farming to pursue other interests, and that cities without a decent economic activity are destined to wither away. i'm still staggered arthur laffer tried to use that book to justify the laffer curve
|
|
#
?
Oct 9, 2018 03:11
|
|
|
Martin Random posted:can i have some of your money
|
|
#
?
Oct 9, 2018 03:12
|
|
|
TenementFunster posted:sure whats your venmo none of your loving technology tricks, nerd
|
|
#
?
Oct 9, 2018 03:14
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 4, 2024 01:38 |
|
|
i dont actually want your money I'm mocking you and you can't tell, you dumb piece of poo poo pay your maids you garbage human being, I hope she stole your drugs and I hope the next one cracks your skull before stealing more of your drugs
|
|
#
?
Oct 9, 2018 03:16
|
|