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Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Anyway. Don't go off topic.

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GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug

Anidav posted:

Isn't RX better?

start a loving strawpoll over it m8

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

GoldStandardConure posted:

start a loving strawpoll over it m8

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

Anidav posted:

A licence to pollute?
*scoff.gif*

We have it, it’s called :10bux:

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

Anidav posted:

Anyway. Don't go off topic.

What topic?

MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005

You Am I posted:

What topic?

Whatever Alan Jones wants to talk about today

BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

The lawyer for the dickheads protesting outside abortion clinics has argued that calling women who get abortions murderers is much the same as “criticism of bankers” or “criticism of men by feminists”.

Also, the Tasmanian ban prevents calling women who get abortions murderers even if the women consent.

Also also, protesting abortions is like protesting apartheid.

bandaid.friend
Apr 25, 2017

:obama:My first car was a stick:obama:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-09/nsw-government-granted-special-exemptions-from-gambling-ad-laws/10352988

quote:

New South Wales racing and media powerbrokers lobbied furiously to get exemptions from laws that were supposed to stop problem gamblers being lured to bet, documents have revealed.

...

The laws strengthened bans on betting inducements, like bonus bets and sign-up offers.
The letter sent to Liquor and Gaming NSW described wagering as racing's primary source of income and its "raison d'etre".
It was signed by the Racing NSW's chief executive Peter Vlandys, Seven West Media boss Tim Worner and Andrew Catterall, the chief executive of Racing.com.
It said new inducement laws would have a "significant detrimental effect" on racing advertising nationally, and in NSW.
It called for exemptions for specialised racing websites, print publications, national broadcast channels such as Sky 1, and racing programs on free-to-air television including Channel 7.
The letter argued the changes should not apply to those platforms because audiences of thoroughbred racing were "essentially a niche audience of adults who are already 'active' wagering customers".
"For this reason, any special offer advertised within dedicated racing content does not have the effect of 'inducing' wagering by anyone that had not already made an active decision that they are interested in placing a bet," the letter read.
If you extend that reasoning, there's no cause to offer inducements, so there's no harm to racing by banning them. The exceptions were granted, of course

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Let's see how The Australian is responding to the U.N Climate Change Report...


Chris Kenny posted:

Surely it is time for the climate activists to kill their pets. Invigorated by the latest alarmism from the UN’s IPCC, they are at it again, advocating a range of economically damaging policies to save the planet.

We should shut down the coal industry, they say. Never mind it is about to reclaim its mantle as our highest export earner, never mind the tens of thousands of people that would lose their jobs, the communities that would be ruined and the millions of people overseas who would be denied energy and prosperity.

We should switch to renewable energy, they say. Never mind the pensioners and low income families who cannot afford their electricity bills and go to bed early to stay warm.

We should use different light globes, they say, and switch all our lights off for an hour of virtue-signalling once a year.

Many of these well-to-do activists are indulging their post-material concerns, perhaps some feel a little guilty about their prosperity.

But they seem all too keen to make the climate someone else’s problem. They can afford their power bills and they like parading their sanctimony so why should they care about a family huddled around a kerosene heater or a village in India waiting for reliable electricity or jobs from a new factory.

This is why the activists always talk about their cataclysmic predictions in specific and personal terms, you know the stuff; islands will disappear, climate refugees will wander the earth, beachfront homes will disappear, cyclones, floods and droughts will swamp us all.

But the policy solutions are always made to sound harmless. We just “put a price on carbon” and switch to renewable energy (which they claim is cheaper even while they champion its subsidies) and take new green jobs and everything will be rosy.

Vegetarianism a virtue

The latest report from the IPCC also suggests we eat less meat to make the planet more sustainable. Vegetarianism is seen as a virtue (despite the known methane emission characteristics of tabouli).

The trouble is we have heard all this before. Every report cites the next decade as a “tipping point” or the last chance for action. Then, after the predictions of the climate models again fail to materialise, they say the same thing about the next decade. It is like a boy crying wolf or President Obama drawing a red line — it inspires more complacency than action.

So if the climate activists really want to awaken us to the threat of global warming they should start executing their pets. After all, we have read about how herds of cattle and mobs of sheep contribute to the carbon emissions problem; hence the calls to eschew meat.

A range of studies have examined the carbon pawprints of pets. Some claim the impact of an average dog on the climate is equivalent to that of a car. A study by UCLA scientist Gregory Okin was published last year by the Public Library of Science quantifying the emissions from dogs and cats in the US at 64 million tonnes of CO2 equivalent methane and nitrous oxide. “Reducing the rate of dog and cat ownership, perhaps in favour of other pets that offer similar health and emotional benefits would considerably reduce these impacts,” Okin said. The paper raised concerns about how this climate impact would escalate as developing nations started to increase their rates of pet ownership.

Pets don’t produce

Unlike sheep and cattle, pets don’t produce food or sustenance; they are just there for the indulgence of humans. So I reckon they should be the first thing sacrificed to save the planet.

Think of all the carbon emissions saved when fewer animals are bred and killed to feed our cats and dogs, fewer factories manufacture their meals and fewer trucks transport their tinned food.

Besides, if we are going to pay even more for our electricity, many of us won’t be able to afford pet food. If the climate activists were really serious, they would stop pretending that they can save the planet without hurting anyone.

These activists fly around the world from conferences to media events, drumming up support from millionaire entertainers who fly around the world in their private jets. Some of the leading activists have multiple houses, multiple vehicles and multiple pets and yet they want us to suffer from steep power prices and give up our Sunday roasts. When they put down their pets, then we’ll know they’re serious.


Judith Sloan posted:

Here we go again — a group of like-minded, henny-penny scientists telling us the world is about to be transformed in a bad way unless we act. Yes, we’ve heard it many times before.

The good thing this time is that this group of credulous scientists who are part of the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is telling us that we are so close to a tipping point that there will be no point issuing any more warnings. That will be a ­relief.

Evidently, the difference ­between the world temperature rising by 2C and 1.5C is huge. More people being inundated, more floods/droughts, greater destruction of biodiversity, hardly any coral reefs left. You know, the normal catastrophic stuff.

And “actions that can reduce emissions include: phasing out coal in the energy sector, increasing the amount of energy produced from renewable sources, electrifying transport and reducing the carbon footprint of the food we consume”. That is, all the favourites of the far-Left.

Mind you, the content of the IPCC report released yesterday ain’t science. It doesn’t set out ­refutable hypotheses and test them. In fact, we don’t even have reliable data on global temperatures. Using climate models to support predictions of future disasters is actually not that far from making astrological prophecies.

And, of course, scientists make truly appalling economists. They don’t understand the first thing about cost-benefit analysis. Check out this piece of guff: “Limiting ­global warming to 1.5C compared to 2C could go hand-in-hand with ensuring a more sustainable and equitable society.”

To suggest that all coal-fired power stations will need to be closed by 2050 is not just silly, it is also completely naive. According to German environmental group Urgewald, “1600 coal plants are planned or currently under construction in 62 countries … The new plants will expand the world’s coal-fired power capacity by 43 per cent”.

And bear in mind, most of these plants will last at least 50 years. Luckily, our own Prime Minister recognises the essentially fraudulent nature of these international reports. Scott Morrison said yesterday that “we’re not throwing money into some global climate fund and getting pulled around by the nose by all these international agencies when it comes to these other reports. I mean the same ­report that (came out yesterday) said a year ago that the policies were fine”.

He may be weak for refusing to consider Australia pulling out of the Paris climate agreement, but at least he’s not being fooled by some of its various appendages.

For anyone who wants to spend time on yet another IPCC report predicting future climate cataclysms, I recommend you read Nassim Nicholas Taleb’s latest book, Skin in the Game. He makes the distinction between science and scientism.

The IPCC report is a clear ­example of the latter, with all its fancy concocted charts and tables pretending to be based on real ­science undertaken by disinterested scientists when it is nothing of the sort.

According to this insightful ­author, “one can see that these academic-bureaucrats wanting to run our lives aren’t even rigorous. They can’t tell science from scientism — in fact, in their eyes scientism looks more scientific than real science”.

In sum, “scientism is to science what a Ponzi scheme is to an ­investment”.

We should all bear this in mind next time we see a report from the IPCC.

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.

quote:

Chris Kenny posted:
Surely it is time for the climate activists to kill their pets.

Do you reckon he does this on purpose?

quote:

Unlike sheep and cattle, pets don’t produce food or sustenance; they are just there for the indulgence of humans.

JFC Chris.

Zenithe fucked around with this message at 06:50 on Oct 9, 2018

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug
gently caress off Chris Kenny & Judith Sloan.

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice
I really wish Chris Kenny would stop indulging in his pets quite so much

AbortRetryFail
Jan 17, 2007

No more Mr. Nice Gaius

He's determined to get the mention of a dog into every single article, even if it means advocating for their demise.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Suggests that there is no science in the report, then complains about charts and tables.

snoremac
Jul 27, 2012

I LOVE SEEING DEAD BABIES ON 𝕏, THE EVERYTHING APP. IT'S WORTH IT FOR THE FOLLOWING TAB.

Tokamak posted:

Suggests that there is no science in the report, then complains about charts and tables.
Also, the report is just a summation of the scientific report Sloan didn’t bother to learn exists. It’s set out so it’s comprehensible to non-scientists.

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
They're hell bent on opposing it just because they don't like being told what to do like big babies

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.
I’m going to gut Chris Kenny and Judith Sloan and make a hammock for my new beachfront property in the Dandenong Ranges

bell jar
Feb 25, 2009

Anidav posted:

Let's see how The Australian is responding to the U.N Climate Change Report...

Chris Kenny will gently caress your dog to death, free of charge! It's a service :colbert:

incredible flesh
Oct 6, 2018

by Nyc_Tattoo
e: actually nvm i can't afford a rereg right now

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



starkebn posted:

They're hell bent on opposing it just because they don't like being told what to do like big babies

https://twitter.com/jrhennessy/status/1049159740717064192?s=19

Urcher
Jun 16, 2006


Chris Kenny posted:

(despite the known methane emission characteristics of tabouli)

As in the popular Turkish wheat salad?

Whitlam
Aug 2, 2014

Some goons overreact. Go figure.

Urcher posted:

As in the popular Turkish wheat salad?

Always disgusting to see whataboulism in practice.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
Kenny's the kind of person who actually believes in climate change but thinks it's more important to attack the left over the way they are handling it.

See also same sex marriage.

Freudian Slip
Mar 10, 2007

"I'm an archivist. I'm archiving."

Whitlam posted:

Always disgusting to see whataboulism in practice.

:golfclap:

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug

Urcher posted:

As in the popular Turkish wheat salad?

Its a fart joke.

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

Doctor Spaceman posted:

Kenny's the kind of person who actually believes in climate change but thinks it's more important to attack the left over the way they are handling it.

See also same sex marriage.

He only supports same sex marriage on the off chance those “it will lead to bestiality” claims are right

drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib
https://twitter.com/KetanJ0/status/1049570161546543104

nice

EoinCannon
Aug 29, 2008

Grimey Drawer
ABC 24 has a live cross window of the Opera house and people trying to gently caress with the projection with torches and floodlights and stuff.

Knorth
Aug 19, 2014

Buglord
The Aus at 59 geez...

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Knorth posted:

The Aus at 59 geez...
vomit

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
Where's Buzzfeed?

Knorth posted:

The Aus at 59 geez...
The Aus has the same thing as Sky where the actual news stuff is often decent and the opinion/editorial stuff is loving garbage.

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
pretty sure the guardian is the only semi-trustworthy news source nowadays

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
If media didn't report honestly, then people have no idea who to vote for. Also, the LNP wants to destroy the ABC so they can sell it off to their mates and get given huge kickbacks.

It's a win win

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

EoinCannon posted:

ABC 24 has a live cross window of the Opera house and people trying to gently caress with the projection with torches and floodlights and stuff.

What the gently caress is this about. I tried to read an article about it but half the nouns were meaningless to me.

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

What the gently caress is this about. I tried to read an article about it but half the nouns were meaningless to me.
because they are going to/or are currently projecting adverts for horse racing on the opera house

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

Knorth posted:

The Aus at 59 geez...

That’s because no ones ever actually read it

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

What the gently caress is this about. I tried to read an article about it but half the nouns were meaningless to me.

Alan Jones is an arrogant areshole, NSW government are spineless and corrupt.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
https://twitter.com/cashbonez/status/1049458846329004034

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

bowmore posted:

because they are going to/or are currently projecting adverts for horse racing on the opera house

Eh it's not like the rest of the country hasn't been sold off to crooks and scammers.

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ShoeFly
Dec 28, 2006

Waiter, there's a fly in my shoe!

lol

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