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DELETE CASCADE posted:idk about faceid but if you hit the power button 5 times the phone will disable fingerprint login and require passcode Even better u could just not enable gimmick logins altogether
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probably mailing lists or something equally horrible and linux
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hifi posted:what is google using for their internal social network now memegen tbh
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fishmech posted:Even better u could just not enable gimmick logins altogether but then you couldn’t post anymore
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The Management posted:but then you couldn’t post anymore 
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Jose Valasquez posted:memegen tbh lol it's true g+ did its job people are mostly logged in all the time when they hit yt or search or whatever so gj i guess. anyone want to hear my vic gundotra story?
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:lol it's true plz
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:g+ did its job people are mostly logged in all the time when they hit yt or search or whatever so gj i guess. anyone want to hear my vic gundotra story?
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Wheany posted:rip in piss, google+, a.k.a "the worse facebook" google+ isn't responsible for a genocide, so it definitely not worse than facebook also the social circles & privacy controls were neat
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pseudorandom name posted:google+ isn't responsible for a genocide, so it definitely not worse than facebook
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SciFiDownBeat posted:you're going to have to explain this one the Rohingya genocide in Myanmar has been pretty much entirely organized via Facebook, and Facebook's newsfeed algorithm kept promoting crazy racist panic stories of Rohingya criminality and immorality.
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pseudorandom name posted:google+ isn't responsible for a genocide, so it definitely not worse than facebook only because nobody used it. they have nothing against the material, as their radicalization engine on youtube proves pseudorandom name posted:also the social circles & privacy controls were neat yeah, there was also a data leak last spring
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remember when they crammed google+ accounts down everyone's throats? you couldn't use youtube without a google+ account.
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in case anyone was wondering the point of g+ was to get you logged in while on other google properties and it largely succeeded. like, at least as often as i see 'sign in with fb' on random other sites that don't want to roll their own username/pw system i see sign in with google too which was not where things were trending before g+. no one actually thought it would compete with fb for like, a newsfeed and all your friends lists and sharing and poo poo. that ship sailed by the time myspace died. why they didn't communicate that and let everyone call it a joke i don't really know. anyways vic is a huge lush. both times we went on corp vacations to wailea because he had a compound across the street. if you were one of his hot pms he'd invite you there for a bacchanal. the first time i met him was when he did his first ever hangout. we were very focused on internal corp vc at the time and had recently launched multiway. i don't remember why i was idling after work but that evening i was and he logs in with his 12 oz wineglass and gets rowdier throughout the night. "we should all take off our shirts." "what a room should do if it's full and more people want to join is, look at everyone's profile and if there are less girls than guys in it only let girls in until they are balanced again." other poo poo like that, in a mixed group of mostly strangers. also he can't stop mentioning how he invented ole/com at ms. like drat it was 1992 or w/e get over it. hangouts was a good fit product wise for g+ but got subsumed in all their bad poo poo too. we had to rewrite the messaging back end on the same tech as their news feed. i bet you can guess the difference in impact if you miss someone's baby pics versus an im. in order to use hangouts you had to go through the ridiculous g+ signup including real name etc etc. remote pms who only cared about visibility with vic trying to strongarm a dev team in a different state etc etc. kinda laid the seeds for all the other bad decisions in messaging products.
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akadajet posted:remember when they crammed google+ accounts down everyone's throats? you couldn't use youtube without a google+ account. lol i forgot
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:no one actually thought it would compete with fb for like, a newsfeed and all your friends lists and sharing and poo poo. that ship sailed by the time myspace died. why they didn't communicate that and let everyone call it a joke i don't really know. google sure as poo poo thought this. there were even tv advertisements trying to draw people away from facebook.
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akadajet posted:remember when they crammed google+ accounts down everyone's throats? you couldn't use youtube without a google+ account. no. ive always been able to use youtube without an account.
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Shaggar posted:no. ive always been able to use youtube without an account. It was commenting. There was quite an uproar.
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I don't think ive ever commented on a youtube
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Shaggar posted:I don't think ive ever commented on a youtube same
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akadajet posted:google sure as poo poo thought this. there were even tv advertisements trying to draw people away from facebook. i mean, i guess you always hope something to be wildly successful beyond your expectataions, but no one seriously thought you could get people to recreate the fb ecosystem from scratch especially since it's impossible to export.
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▂▄▅█████████▅▄▃▂ \☻ This tank & Bob are against Google+ Il███████████████████]... ▌\︻╦╤─ Copy and Paste this all over ◥⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙◤.... / \ YouTube if you are with us
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Oct 8, 2018 23:14
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RIP secret yosplus, glad my forums login still works goddamn so many new smilies 
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:no one actually thought it would compete with fb for like, a newsfeed and all your friends lists and sharing and poo poo. the impression i got from vic was that he actually did consider himself a jobsian messiah and his social media product would obviously end up killing facebook why would you not want to use it? a lot of the lower-level people almost certainly knew it was bullshit, but delusions at the top tend to taint the whole thing
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TOO SCSI FOR MY CAT posted:RIP secret yosplus, glad my forums login still works 
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TOO SCSI FOR MY CAT posted:RIP secret yosplus, glad my forums login still works first yosirc and now this what's the world coming to
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Rex-Goliath posted:first yosirc and now this the forums
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lolquote:The consumer version of Google+ currently has low usage and engagement: 90 percent of Google+ user sessions are less than five seconds. e: "how google glass could kill facebook - and rescue google plus" https://twitter.com/ProfJeffJarviss/status/1049444266219642880 FMguru fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Oct 9, 2018 |
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You're accessing YouTube! You must now create a Google+ account! [Later] [Now] "Later" Why not now? [ ] Whatever [ ] Whatever [ ] Whatever Repeat 50x. Then, accidentally click "Now" just once because someone is over your shoulder and you want the dialogs to go away while showing them something and "okay done! No backsies without deleting your Gmail account ever again!" or some such BS. Mine may have been worse than normal since my domain was hosted in Gmail. Followed by a later "Oh what the hell, let's categorize a few people like it's constantly pestering me to, maybe it will stop" only to later learn Google was eagerly emailing everybody as you did it telling them you had just added them to the Family/Friend/Colleague circle, and they should join Google+ too! So much love for G+!
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FMguru posted:that means 90% of g+ interactions are people going "poo poo! i accidentally clicked that stupid g+ button!" and immediately backing out, right? exactly
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"people must use their real names because that will make people not post terrible poo poo" good point, on the other hand: recoded history
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let’s not pretend like google+ wasn’t a panicked response to the rise of Facebook. google had created an array of services and massive panopticon to try to understand who the users are so it can target them better. then comes fb and users are literally telling Facebook everything about them. all of that juicy targeting info, of the highest quality, just typed right in for Facebook to use. Facebook ads were starting to cut into google’s sales. they grabbed a significant chunk of the online ad market. they are a significant competitor. and now they have tracking bugs everywhere, which work great because everyone is always logged into Facebook already. and you can log in with Facebook into everything. oh, and let’s not forget that Facebook was siphoning off google engineers at a rapid clip. they had an IPO coming up and later fast rising shares, whereas google stock was stagnant for a long time there. at one point google gave all employees a 10% raise across the board to try and stem the bleeding. google was scared. they were losing share of the online ad market to the first real competitor they’ve ever had. they were losing employees. they were missing out on so much tasty data and ad opportunities because people spent so much time inside Facebook properties and were so trusting with their personal info. and so, g+.
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The Management posted:let’s not pretend like google+ wasn’t a panicked response to the rise of Facebook. google had created an array of services and massive panopticon to try to understand who the users are so it can target them better. then comes fb and users are literally telling Facebook everything about them. all of that juicy targeting info, of the highest quality, just typed right in for Facebook to use. Facebook ads were starting to cut into google’s sales. they grabbed a significant chunk of the online ad market. they are a significant competitor. and now they have tracking bugs everywhere, which work great because everyone is always logged into Facebook already. and you can log in with Facebook into everything. and then g+ fails horribly and google still makes a boatload of money so i'm not sure what conclusions to draw. except possibly that corporate strategy is a lie capitalists tell themselves to feel like they've earned their wealth
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2009-era valley joke: what's the fastest way to get from mountain view to palo alto? tell a facebook recruiter you're thinking of jumping from google [I think at one point you could get them to send an actual limo]
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The Management posted:let’s not pretend like google+ wasn’t a panicked response to the rise of Facebook. i've felt for a long time that if they'd kept their cool and slowly consolidated their services to gradually mimic and then overcome facebook they would have been massively successful basically take igoogle and slowly creep/normalize the social features in by leveraging the fact people were already using gchat / youtube
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