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Larry Parrish posted:its really not a very clean system to reprocess plastics but of course the ideal is to just either not wrap everything ever in plastic or at least make the bags useful durable ones people won't throw away or tear open immediately Charging a battery (at the factory), using it, and then throwing it away is definitely not more environmentally friendly than charging a battery, using it, recharging it (at home), using it, recharging it, using it, recharging it [repeat based on life of battery], and then throwing it away. The plastic bag analogy is... not analogous.
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qkkl posted:It's probably more environmentally friendly to just throw out these batteries rather than recharge them, similar to how it is more environmentally friendly to throw out plastic bags than to recycle them. yah just like how it's more environmentally friendly to wear shirts only once before burning them and buying more or throwing away stainless steel spoons after one use or buying a new laptop every day and throwing the old one in the creek that's just bein green, baby!
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SniperWoreConverse posted:e: irt "real news" I don't think you can get any decent news out of such an organization and hierarchy you might be able to get decent news out of democratically run news organizations dedicated to the public good also you can't have democracy under capitalism and lots of important massive decisions that affect citizens' lives is nominally and explicitly undemocratic under corporate power. there is zero pretense here
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SniperWoreConverse posted:this is disgusting Actual lithium ion batteries, perfectly good. All it's missing is the chip to actually charge them and a port to plug in. e: Here's the BigClive video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5korWqCcsHE Shame Boy has issued a correction as of 13:47 on Oct 9, 2018 |
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SniperWoreConverse posted:uh a thing came out some time ago where electronics that were manufactured in china (90%) often have a small extra chip installed next to the CPU that is not part of the specifications. This chip looks like a regular surface mount resistor or coupler but is actually a full blown chip with its own code and all that, it's no basic electrical component. Some versions are embedded between the layers of the circuit board and can only be detected with specialized equipment. I'm not sure where you got "90%" or "often" from, so far the only boards claimed to be affected are very specific SuperMicro ones and even then nobody has been able to independently actually find that chip or corroborate the story. Making an implant chip for 90% of all electronics ever that could still actually... do anything useful... would either require making something custom for each and every product or making something magic that could interface with each and every product.
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Shame Boy posted:I'm not sure where you got "90%" or "often" from, so far the only boards claimed to be affected are very specific SuperMicro ones and even then nobody has been able to independently actually find that chip or corroborate the story. Making an implant chip for 90% of all electronics ever that could still actually... do anything useful... would either require making something custom for each and every product or making something magic that could interface with each and every product. im "90%" sure you wouldn't even have to put a physical implant in a device to do something like this ( https://github.com/xoreaxeaxeax/rosenbridge for example even though this one "only" targets VIA C3 cpus) which makes it even more suspect imo, but also it's funny to be worried about china doing something like this when you know nsa and fsb have probably been in the same game for years
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Oct 9, 2018 14:03
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Didn't Stuxnet end up on the ISS somehow?
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Jerry Cotton posted:Charging a battery (at the factory), using it, and then throwing it away is definitely not more environmentally friendly than charging a battery, using it, recharging it (at home), using it, recharging it, using it, recharging it [repeat based on life of battery], and then throwing it away. The plastic bag analogy is... not analogous. I was talking about the actual plastic bags and not the moron's idea that charging lithium batteries is worse than making them in the first place
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https://twitter.com/CNNBusiness/status/579871001103630336 Won't someone think of all the super rich??? 
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Oct 9, 2018 14:55
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Oct 9, 2018 14:57
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Luxury... costs money? What the hell???
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Taintrunner posted:speaking of phones uh lol These two make me laugh. I hate to think of who looks at a disposable phone battery and thinks 'Wow! So convenient!' especially when reusable ones have existed for ages. I want to believe the iced coffee is a joke, because that's just too ridiculous.
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I'm the $75,000 "housekeeper" salary that is to say, I wish I was
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think buying expensive things costs no money? think again
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The Bloop posted:I'm the $75,000 "housekeeper" salary Half that goes to the contracting company, i'm sure.
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The Bloop posted:I'm the $75,000 "housekeeper" salary $45,000 for the housekeeping agency, $30,000 for the housekeeper.
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It's probably more of a 60,000/15,000 split if we're being real here.
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in the actual scenario when youd need them the disposable phone batteries are somewhat cheap and the rechargeable ones are always insanely overpriced
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Outrail posted:$20,000 for the housekeeper, $55,000 to the journalist so they make up numbers to make you look better
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they could always give up the money if its such a burden... or they could give up their head
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got any sevens posted:they could always give up the money if its such a burden... 
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Dairy Days posted:im "90%" sure you wouldn't even have to put a physical implant in a device to do something like this ( https://github.com/xoreaxeaxeax/rosenbridge for example even though this one "only" targets VIA C3 cpus) which makes it even more suspect imo, but also it's funny to be worried about china doing something like this when you know nsa and fsb have probably been in the same game for years That's the other thing though, going back to the original topic of not rooting your phone, generally the point isn't to prevent a nation state attack against you since if they want to they'll do it anyway, there's plenty of other possible methods. The point is to prevent low-hanging garbage exploits from hoovering up all your poo poo for identity theft, then using your phone as part of a botnet to take down the entire internet backbone of Qatar or whatever.
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Farm Frenzy posted:in the actual scenario when youd need them the disposable phone batteries are somewhat cheap and the rechargeable ones are always insanely overpriced You can get them for $5 at Five Below. TheMostFrench posted:These two make me laugh. I hate to think of who looks at a disposable phone battery and thinks 'Wow! So convenient!' especially when reusable ones have existed for ages. Apparently it's from Australia so I believe it
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TheMostFrench posted:These two make me laugh. I hate to think of who looks at a disposable phone battery and thinks 'Wow! So convenient!' especially when reusable ones have existed for ages. The iced coffee thing is just taken out of context. They're not selling you a 'coffee to iced coffee converter' to take home. 7-11 is prepacking ice in a cup that's probably fits their coffee lids and is more heat resistant than their big gulp to pour their hot coffee into it. This also gets them out of the liability of someone pouring hot coffee in a cup then adding ice and getting splashed.
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Coolness Averted posted:The iced coffee thing is just taken out of context. They're not selling you a 'coffee to iced coffee converter' to take home. 7-11 is prepacking ice in a cup that's probably fits their coffee lids and is more heat resistant than their big gulp to pour their hot coffee into it. This also gets them out of the liability of someone pouring hot coffee in a cup then adding ice and getting splashed. Does it cost more than a normal cup of coffee of the same size, because if so it's still real funny 
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search your heart, you know the answer in hellworld
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Outrail posted:$45,000 for the housekeeping agency, $30,000 for the housekeeper. $20,000 to the housekeeping agency $15,000 to the housekeeper $40,000 in hush money for the illegitimate child
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Alucard posted:$20,000 to the housekeeping agency someone help me budget this i am not good at oppressing the proles
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it's a lithium battery so they're selling people a rechargeable battery as a single-use product, holy moly these entrepreneurs should be disposed of IMO also when society falls apart and I become benevolent dictator of the region formally known as Cascadia, I'm going to execute the techbros Homocow has issued a correction as of 21:03 on Oct 9, 2018 |
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Dead Beef posted:it's a lithium battery so they're selling people a rechargeable battery as a single-use product, holy moly There's actually several non-rechargeable lithium chemistries out there too, but as already noted yeah this is a rechargeable because they're just plain cheap now.
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World War Mammories posted:someone help me budget this i am not good at oppressing the proles Stop impregnating the help.
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no just pay the help much less
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Shame Boy posted:There's actually several non-rechargeable lithium chemistries out there too, but as already noted yeah this is a rechargeable because they're just plain cheap now. I just went and loosely parted it out on octopart and the cost of adding (brand-name, well-sourced) parts to allow that thing to be recharged, plus a USB micro input connector, would raise the cost of production a whopping... ~50 cents. That's assuming you don't use one of the hybrid charge / discharge chips that does both jobs, or share any of the other hardware with existing components, and you bought solid, quality parts instead of the cheapest counterfeits you could find.
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Shame Boy posted:I just went and loosely parted it out on octopart and the cost of adding (brand-name, well-sourced) parts to allow that thing to be recharged, plus a USB micro input connector, would raise the cost of production a whopping... ~50 cents. That's assuming you don't use one of the hybrid charge / discharge chips that does both jobs, or share any of the other hardware with existing components, and you bought solid, quality parts instead of the cheapest counterfeits you could find. but if they did that then you wouldnt be forced to buy a new one each time
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Gum posted:but if they did that then you wouldnt be forced to buy a new one each time I mean you would anyway because you'd never remember to bring it with you when you need it 
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AnimeIsTrash posted:https://twitter.com/CNNBusiness/status/579871001103630336 Bernie will improve their budget by making sure they get free room and board. In his gulag
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Alucard posted:$20,000 to the housekeeping agency You can just take the Marx route and convince your buddy to claim paternity
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Coolness Averted posted:The iced coffee thing is just taken out of context. They're not selling you a 'coffee to iced coffee converter' to take home. 7-11 is prepacking ice in a cup that's probably fits their coffee lids and is more heat resistant than their big gulp to pour their hot coffee into it. This also gets them out of the liability of someone pouring hot coffee in a cup then adding ice and getting splashed.  thats the bootlicking shithead in your brain fooling you1. theres already free heat resistant cups 2. there's already free ice (softdrinks) 3. theyve had hot coffee and free ice for decades and it's only become a problem now?
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Former DILF posted:
According to the Reddit post that picture is attached to it's in Australia where they don't have soda fountains. I don't know how accurate that is because I'm in 'Merica where I can get a gallon of soda for $1 though
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