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hot balls man no homo posted:So I take it that nobody told chris that it is boring to make a player need to do things like drink coffee, drink alcohol, ride a train, walk for 10 minutes through a station and fly for 20 minutes across a planet just to get some gameplay going? Like, this is all stuff gamers like to avoid and chris made it the centerpiece of his presentation. Does he not know we hate all this? Even the people who claim to look forward to this crap will get tired of it after the first few go rounds. Lets talk about that gameplay. It was all very dumb. The ships still fly no-clip style, the scanning was what? a single button push?, the fps gunplay was unresponsive and unexciting. Crew multi-play action was crap. Once again the whole demo had about 4 mins of "gameplay" and all of it was very bad. Chris Roberts does not know how to make modern games.
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It's just so loving bizarre because it's their one event of the year that is All Star Citizen, Nothing Else, and they didn't even try to impress. At all. Like maybe if everything worked without a hitch, that would be progress, but everything was still catastrophically hosed. And they spent all this time on idiotic little loving details that didn't add to the gameplay at all. Like seriously? Waiting on loving trains? And they even cheated that towards the loving end! It's just loving mind boggling!
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Oct 10, 2018 23:17
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Right now Chris Roberts sits alone in a room with that sweet whale blubber running down his face as he feasts "You did it again" echoes inside his head
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SoftNum posted:There's like two things. 1. I'm sure crobbers thinks that the demo he showed compares favorable to the CP2077 clip. and 2. lots of citizens claim to want this content. They claim to want it until they get it and then they'll do their damndest to skip all of it. Even if Chris managed to deliver the game as promised, it would be so niche and boring that nobody would play it, and Chris would make no money off of game sales. So they would need more pay to win ship sales.
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Oct 10, 2018 23:18
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lol so the anvil valkyrie, whatever that is but I gather it was just announced, is going to be $450. i guess that means this kraken capital ship they're showing off will be over a thousand bucks
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Oct 10, 2018 23:18
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GrizzlyAtoms posted:Meaning a nearly 6x return on your early investment. MoMA wins? Def win. Definitely worth it to get in early guys - I'm telling you.
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Oct 10, 2018 23:20
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Mr. Carlisle posted:Right now Chris Roberts sits alone in a room with that sweet whale blubber running down his face as he feasts And then he pours himself another Hairy Roberts. I wonder if he is still going to be vertical when it's time for the closing remarks/apologies/desperate money grabs.
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Frog Act posted:lol so the anvil valkyrie, whatever that is but I gather it was just announced, is going to be $450. i guess that means this kraken capital ship they're showing off will be over a thousand bucks That carrier will be no less than 2500$ no way no how Dont forget to thank them !!
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I liked the bit with the big tank battle! opps, my bad, just because they have sold tanks does not mean there is any in the game.
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Frog Act posted:lol so the anvil valkyrie, whatever that is but I gather it was just announced, is going to be $450. i guess that means this kraken capital ship they're showing off will be over a thousand bucks I think it's going to be 5 large at least. I bet it'll come with a custom made model for each one (unavailable without, new money only). Can't have rogue galaxy outlaw outdoing them.
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Yeah if they're making people sign up for the privilege of finding out how much they'll be fleeced for it's gonna be 2K or more I'd be shocked if it wasn't
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hot balls man no homo posted:So I take it that nobody told chris that it is boring to make a player need to do things like drink coffee, drink alcohol, ride a train, walk for 10 minutes through a station and fly for 20 minutes across a planet just to get some gameplay going? Like, this is all stuff gamers like to avoid and chris made it the centerpiece of his presentation. Does he not know we hate all this? Even the people who claim to look forward to this crap will get tired of it after the first few go rounds. Nobody tells Chris anything. Telling Chris something means you could be telling Chris he's wrong, and Chris Roberts Is Not Wrong. Chris Roberts is the Visionary, he's the loving Saviour of Space Sims and he will not have some easily replaceable peon tell him how things should be done. Chris does not play games, he makes them. He knows that in order for the Maximum Possible Fidelity your character needs his (not hers, women are not fidelitious) morning coffee while he wakes up in the apartment that he TOTALLY NEEDS because the starship he owns that costs hundreds of thousands of credits doesn't have a bed (actually the Mustang Beta does but FIDELITY). That character NEEDS to spend literal minutes doing nothing waiting for a tram so he can meet someone in person for a VERY IMPORTANT MISSION THAT COULDN'T BE DISCUSSED OVER COMMS even though the McGuffin gets dropped in the mailbox as soon as you get back to the city. It's essential that the character spend even more time flying twenty kilometers to find the pile of smoking wreckage before having to crawl by foot and then
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This is all so extremely lovely, its worse than I could have imagined. Catching up now off work, sadly I was busy today so couldn't watch. The commercial for the KRAKEN is so bad. The guys are like "heehee run away or we kill you!" (why don't they just kill him anyways) And then a KRAKEN manages to SNEAK UP ON THEM IN SPACE. I mean seriously nobody has long range sensors or anything??? Nobody even LOOKED UP? What dumb  wankery from people who don't even understand how their own game is going to play.Also the game crashing in the first 30 seconds is GOLD 
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Oct 10, 2018 23:27
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Kosumo posted:I liked the bit with the big tank battle! opps, my bad, just because they have sold tanks does not mean there is any in the game. Have they even showed a second of space tank gameplay footage after putting that loving thing on sale? What the gently caress
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Brazilianpeanutwar posted:Oh god it's still going? I'm tapping out until 10PM EST when Chris closes out the show, they might have something then.
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Brazilianpeanutwar posted:Oh god it's still going? There's another 3.5 hours or so before Chris even gets back on stage.
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Oct 10, 2018 23:28
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Nobody tells Chris anything. Telling Chris something means you could be fired
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The mere fact the ability to put your name in the hat for a chance to purchase the ship means they will be gauging interest in the ship before setting the price You'll have idiots like Clifford offering to buy 5 of them for any price , heck he has probably already cornered Chris and tried to shove cash at him
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Oct 10, 2018 23:29
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hot balls man no homo posted:So I take it that nobody told chris that it is boring to make a player need to do things like drink coffee, drink alcohol, ride a train, walk for 10 minutes through a station and fly for 20 minutes across a planet just to get some gameplay going? Like, this is all stuff gamers like to avoid and chris made it the centerpiece of his presentation. Does he not know we hate all this? Even the people who claim to look forward to this crap will get tired of it after the first few go rounds. This isn't a game. They really really are treating it like its a virtual world, which is what the backers want and explains why backers are giving up so much goddamn money. $20k isn't that much for a virtual world where you get to be Luke Skywalker. Except only loving morons think that someone can build a realistic and detailed enough virtual world that you could actually live in it. But seriously, look at all the things backers are asking for. None of it makes sense in the context of a game. Things like the wankpods, being able to re-arrange your room, having to ride a train to work, being able to slosh around every cup of coffee, none of that makes sense in a videogame but is necessary in order to create a virtual loving existence. This "game" is really an alternate reality that doesn't exist but Chris is happy to sell you a bridge in it. Its mass delusion on a level that dwarfs even religion. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Oct 11, 2018 |
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Richard Garriot basically hard confirmed this in his development talk video.
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Like they probably already have the spread sheet setup If 5000 backers opt in to buy it the price is 3000 per If 10,000 backers the price is 4000 per Yes normally the price would go down with more purchases. But not at cloud imperium investments LLC
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Taintrunner posted:I'm tapping out until 10PM EST when Chris closes out the show, they might have something then. Beer4TheBeerGod posted:There's another 3.5 hours or so before Chris even gets back on stage. Oh gently caress that,i'll wait for the silent screams tomorrow and the inevitable 576+ posts.
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Oct 10, 2018 23:32
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poo poo even if like 10 idiots offer to buy it. They will still fudge t the numbers so it looks like a huge success. What's stopping them? They're accountable to nothing and nobody The scale model alone probably cost 10k from totally not the step cousin of Chris Robert's Ltd
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So. What are we up to now, was it three new ships this con so far? And I do love Chris blatantly mentioning plans for being able to own and upgrade your apartment.
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Oct 10, 2018 23:33
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Zaphod42 posted:This isn't a game. They really really are treating it like its a virtual world, which is what the backers want and explains why backers are giving up so much goddamn money. $20k isn't that much for a virtual world where you get to be Luke Skywalker. Years ago Eric Peterson unironically referenced "Ready Player One" when discussing the ambition for Star Citizen.
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Oct 10, 2018 23:34
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Do the tanks work in space? Can I land one on the outside of my space ship and use it as a manned turret.
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McGiggins posted:Do the tanks work in space? Can I land one on the outside of my space ship and use it as a manned turret. Buy a Kraken to find out.
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Lmao that FOIP demo was worse than anything we imagined or mocked up It just completely did not work. Think about the FOIP tech guys on twitter doing laps about "REDDITUSER" saying it was the coolest poo poo, and then THAT is what everybody sees as the demo 
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Oct 10, 2018 23:40
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Why the gently caress do they, every time they run a demo, have to go and buy the armour and tools? Chris, you have shown that poo poo every fucken time, you are just wasting every ones time now. (You have always been wasting the money)
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Oct 10, 2018 23:41
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Kosumo posted:Why the gently caress do they, every time they run a demo, have to go and buy the armour and tools? Gotta pad the gameplay with the only gameplay you have... shopping.
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Oct 10, 2018 23:42
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This desynced clustered gently caress-hole will hit 5 million. I feel embarrassed to have entered my meager of a vote. My hat is off to you Roberts.
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Is it going to push the total over 200 million? I can't wait for the news sites to pick up the story and show some of the engaging gameplay displayed here today.
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Kosumo posted:Why the gently caress do they, every time they run a demo, have to go and buy the armour and tools? To show how tactile the world is, maximum tactineciousness
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You can tell what an egotist Roberts is by the way he just totally talks over people who are fully mid-sentence. He doesn't even recognize other people exist other than to listen to him.
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Let's check out Twitter to see how the mega whales are doing  Errr Clifford that's, hmm .... wow
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Snazzy Frocks posted:thank you for your efforts of saving the rest of us the trouble of watching the entirety *finger guns*
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trucutru posted:To show how tactile the world is, maximum tactineciousness Tacticity.
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Zaphod42 posted:Lmao that FOIP demo was worse than anything we imagined or mocked up Yeah it was absolutely hilarious. Somebody should do a split screen with on the left: the FOIP tweets; on the right: what we've seen in game, that looks completely idiotic. On a side note, I'll be honnest: I think CIG is well on their way of making a "second-life" sci-fi virtual universe. Assuming they can fix the billions of bugs, glitches and popping issues. But given enough time ( years ) it's possible they could achieve it. Basically, in terms of immersing yourself in a space citizen life, they could succeed. As a game however, it looks like a trainwreck. Nothing they have shown seems anywhere close to fun. Everything looks stretched, boring and grindy. And if you want to avoid the grind.. pay $$. That alone is a big turnoff.. even if I hadn't backed a space-sim and was into immersive virtual universes. I guess what I'm trying to say, to be positive for once, is that they might have a shot at making a second-life-like MMO, if they fix all their current technical mess / debt. Nyast fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Oct 10, 2018 |
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