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Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

lol how's that triangulation on supporting rapists working out for you fuckwit.

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Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


https://twitter.com/EoinHiggins_/status/1049708448483553280

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.

WampaLord posted:

I voted for Hillary. It didn't do poo poo.

Keep yelling at the < 1000 people who frequent this subforum, I'm sure it's gonna work wonders in a national election to make less than 1000 people feel bad about their vote.

Keep blaming the voters, it's a loving great strategy, just top tier poo poo.

Cerebral Bore posted:

Leftists gritting their teeth and voting for the lesser evil has so far resulted in a Democratic party run by utter incompetents that's been completely shut out of power on every level even when the other side is a literal insane death cult. Great track record, that.

i really think that with the living memory of obama-- extremely inspiring campaign rhetoric, including dogwhistles promising an investigation of how the iraq war was sold, followed by nothing that matched the inspired rhetoric and the explicit "look forward, not backward"-- there's no real way to get left-tending maybe-voters to show up but to promise to do something to make life better for them or people they care about

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice

prisoner of waffles posted:

i really think that with the living memory of obama-- extremely inspiring campaign rhetoric, including dogwhistles promising an investigation of how the iraq war was sold, followed by nothing that matched the inspired rhetoric and the explicit "look forward, not backward"-- there's no real way to get left-tending maybe-voters to show up but to promise to do something to make life better for them or people they care about

Doing....things your base....wants.....is good? Quick someone get Democrats on the line I think I solved their problem.

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

bird food bathtub posted:

Doing....things your base....wants.....is good? Quick someone get Democrats on the line I think I solved their problem.

https://twitter.com/audreycoopersf/status/1050133095934910464?s=21

By the way, what's a SCOTUS?

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011


Medicare-for-all?
"No not like that!"

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Kraftwerk posted:

Do you guys follow Jim Wright or his blog stonekettle nation?
He claims to be neither liberal nor conservative and often posts eloquent takedowns of Trump and the gun violence in America.

I don't think I've ever seen a person describe their politics this way who wasn't a complete moron and trying to just mask their own ignorance.

(I'm obviously not including people who would technically be described this way due to being socialist or whatever, but just the people who use it under the assumption that "liberal" and "conservative" are the two opposing "poles" of US politics.)

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land





How the gently caress

Blackburn's climb started before the Kavanaugh poo poo

Corsair Pool Boy
Dec 17, 2004
College Slice

Main Paineframe posted:

That "key argument" is verifiably false, so there's not much point in discussing it. It's all just part of the liberal need to always have some third group, neither Democrat nor Republican, to blame for their defeat.

The important question that you're not asking is this: would the Democratic candidate have actually prevented most of the things happening right now? You're making the mistake of just assuming that the answer is "yes", but a big part of why people are so picky about Democratic candidates are because a lot of them DON'T really oppose Trump's policies.

If Trump had lost, immigrant detention and family separation would still be happening, we'd still be haphazardly bombing the Middle East and telling Palestinians to go die already, ground would already have been broken on a new border wall, and more. Hell, even abortion wouldn't be safe if Tim Kaine reached the presidential seat.

Cerebral Bore posted:

Leftists gritting their teeth and voting for the lesser evil has so far resulted in a Democratic party run by utter incompetents that's been completely shut out of power on every level even when the other side is a literal insane death cult. Great track record, that.

All of this. I'm leaving the Senate boxes empty on my ballot this year for the first time. Corey Stewart is a total fuckstain, but Kaine doesn't do anything he doesn't absolutely have to do for regular people. I'm certain he votes for Kavanaugh without Blasy Ford coming forward - the Dem push back kept him from doing it anyway. He votes for all sorts of deregulation and whatever less his money men want unless it's highly visible and highly disliked by ~the party~. He also argued that superdelegates are fine because it's their party, so they should get a say in the choice.

I hated voting for Hillary, and I'm not voting for people anymore just because they're not a Republican. I'll vote for Wexton because she seems decent and worth taking a chance on. Voting blue no matter who just lets the party continue on as they have. They don't represent my interests, so gently caress 'em. Get to a halfway decent place yourself and we'll talk.

readingatwork
Jan 8, 2009

Hello Fatty!


Fun Shoe

Lightning Knight posted:

On the off chance anybody buys into the delusion that Rand Paul isn�t loving garbage lol:

https://twitter.com/muslimmissworld/status/1049837135627350018?s=21

He’s not wrong though. There’s anger in the air lately the likes of which I’ve never seen. I used to say we were 2-3 recessions/disasters away from some sort of major societal collapse but these days I’m wondering if we’re even going to make it to 1.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

readingatwork posted:

He’s not wrong though. There’s anger in the air lately the likes of which I’ve never seen. I used to say we were 2-3 recessions/disasters away from some sort of major societal collapse but these days I’m wondering if we’re even going to make it to 1.

I mean the point is that people die every day to our political system, whether in America or abroad. What Rand Paul means is "people who matter," i.e. rich white people.

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

How the gently caress

Blackburn's climb started before the Kavanaugh poo poo

polls generally tighten close to election day as more people start paying attention and respond to polling

also it's tennessee, bredesen was a long shot to begin with even before he decided to poo poo all over his base

drilldo squirt
Aug 18, 2006

a beautiful, soft meat sack
Clapping Larry

She's a bad person.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003



Gee Nancy that sounds great please tell me what the plans for making life better is...

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


_ax _red_ts

Brony Car
May 22, 2014

by Cyrano4747

Taylor Swift knew her endorsement would do this. She's the ultimate Chud sleeper agent.

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
Coincidentally Bredesden is debating Blackburn as we speak, and it is going
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1050176110409986048
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1050196696439898112
Well, it's going.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Office Pig posted:

Coincidentally Bredesden is debating Blackburn as we speak, and it is going
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1050176110409986048
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1050196696439898112
Well, it's going.

LOL! So going to lose. I mean, hey DNC figured they needed a centrist.

Brony Car
May 22, 2014

by Cyrano4747

Crowsbeak posted:

LOL! So going to lose. I mean, hey DNC figured they needed a centrist.

Who else was running and did the DNC really put a thumb on the scale for Bresden?

readingatwork
Jan 8, 2009

Hello Fatty!


Fun Shoe

Crowsbeak posted:

LOL! So going to lose.

You are going to feel SO DUMB when all the suburban Republicans come out and give Bredesen a landslide victory.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Brony Car posted:

Who else was running and did the DNC really put a thumb on the scale for Bresden?

I meant that more in a general standpoint. , Arguement is, that dems got to run centrists in places like TN if they want a chance to win. Well, who is a better example of that argument?

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Office Pig posted:

Coincidentally Bredesden is debating Blackburn as we speak, and it is going
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1050176110409986048

What, haha drat Marsha takes some balls to vote for a rapist and then pull that.

E: Wait poo poo, she's not an incumbent did she ever say anything about supporting Kavanaugh either way?

Brony Car
May 22, 2014

by Cyrano4747

Crowsbeak posted:

I meant that more in a general standpoint. , Arguement is, that dems got to run centrists in places like TN if they want a chance to win. Well, who is a better example of that argument?

I guess I see your point. I just wish I knew more about who else in Tennessee was willing to run.

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

VitalSigns posted:

What, haha drat Marsha takes some balls to vote for a rapist and then pull that.

E: Wait poo poo, she's not an incumbent did she ever say anything about supporting Kavanaugh either way?

Don't think so, but I'm assuming it was taken for granted her vote would be a yes in the senate. Most of the other snippets center around ACA and medicare/medicaid funding.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Office Pig posted:

Don't think so, but I'm assuming it was taken for granted her vote would be a yes in the senate. Most of the other snippets center around ACA and medicare/medicaid funding.

I checked it out not only did she support him she called the accusations a smear and a delay tactic
https://www.apnews.com/5e052fdc733441e3a3c0729623a659dd

So yeah now she's Whatabouting as hard as she can.

And holy poo poo she isn't lying about it either
http://tennesseestar.com/2017/12/09...enate-campaign/

Cool I guess here's another poo poo good ol' boy Dem giving cover to Republican shitbaggery

E: wait maybe not the source that paper cited is the Washington Free Beacon I can't find anything that's not from a right-wing propaganda outfit

Tommah
Mar 29, 2003

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1050080939039236096

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Nikki Haley is smart enough that she was probably one of the people telling Trump what his foreign policy was, within the limits of his ability to comprehend multisyllabic speech

My guess is that Trump did something that tripped Haley's self-preservation alarm (i.e., screamed a a racial epithet at her or something similar). Midterms coming up etc and just a general "let me get out while the getting is good" are also possibles.

You're ascribing principles to a person who has none. She's resigning as soon as some corruption has been revealed, what that says to me is that there's far worse still unknown to us.

Axetrain
Sep 14, 2007


Ah yes unlike impeachment for all those non-sitting presidents, that's what we need to be talking about.

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

L-Shaped


Nap Ghost

readingatwork posted:

He’s not wrong though. There’s anger in the air lately the likes of which I’ve never seen. I used to say we were 2-3 recessions/disasters away from some sort of major societal collapse but these days I’m wondering if we’re even going to make it to 1.

the dow fell 800 points today 😹

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003



Every one of our leaders is so goddamned stupid.

Harik
Sep 9, 2001

From the hard streets of Moscow
First dog to touch the stars


Plaster Town Cop

Radish posted:

Every one of our leaders is so goddamned stupid.
Mitt Romney, leader of... Bain capital?

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
https://twitter.com/SeanLavery/status/1050495062889680896

Seyser Koze
Dec 15, 2013

Mucho Mucho
Nap Ghost

Hell is too good for these people.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Harik posted:

Mitt Romney, leader of... Bain capital?

He is running for Senate still, isn’t he?

Even if he isn’t he’s still filthy rich and has power within the Mormon church.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Harik posted:

Mitt Romney, leader of... Bain capital?

Mitt Romney former governor, presidential candidate, high ranking Republican party member, and future Senator. Like he's a leader even if right this moment he's private.

Corsair Pool Boy
Dec 17, 2004
College Slice

Radish posted:

Mitt Romney former governor, presidential candidate, high ranking Republican party member, and future Senator. Like he's a leader even if right this moment he's private.

Don't forget that Bain Capital is also in the process of screwing 30k people out of their severance at Toys'R'Us.

There was a huge severance fund that they liquidated, now they're talking about maybe creating one worth 1/4 as much for the former employees even as they resurrect the brand, because they can't put out any new marketing material without former employees blowing it up on social media.

Never ever forget that Romney is just as bad as the rest of the party no matter how hard the media trya to make him sound like he's not.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Corsair Pool Boy posted:

Don't forget that Bain Capital is also in the process of screwing 30k people out of their severance at Toys'R'Us.

There was a huge severance fund that they liquidated, now they're talking about maybe creating one worth 1/4 as much for the former employees even as they resurrect the brand, because they can't put out any new marketing material without former employees blowing it up on social media.

Never ever forget that Romney is just as bad as the rest of the party no matter how hard the media trya to make him sound like he's not.

He dodged Vietnam then came back to protest in support of keeping the war going. He's a loathsome person like the rest.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


our dem governor that followed him also followed him over to bain!

kaww of course
Jul 11, 2003

This is NOT the greatest avatar in the world; this is just a tribute
Doctor Rope
Can anybody recommend a good resource on leftist-alternatives to US hegemony? Lately I've been dosing my close friends with that primo Marxist poo poo and they've been surprisingly receptive to most of the domestic policy ideas, but when the topic turns to supporting countries like Saudi Arabia and Israel they turn into apologists because of the threat of Russia or China filling the power vacuum that'd exist if we started dismantling our immoral empire. "If we try to stop Israel from apartheid-ing Palestine they'll just go be buds with Russia which is bad because Russia is worse than us :ohdear:." I'd like to be more prepared to offer alternative foreign policy suggestions, but my attempt at finding material on my own hasn't been particularly successful. How does a future socialist US participate in the world? How can we responsibly dismantle our empire while also preventing some other evil power from taking our place? Is that even possible without global solidarity?

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Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

kaww of course posted:

Can anybody recommend a good resource on leftist-alternatives to US hegemony? Lately I've been dosing my close friends with that primo Marxist poo poo and they've been surprisingly receptive to most of the domestic policy ideas, but when the topic turns to supporting countries like Saudi Arabia and Israel they turn into apologists because of the threat of Russia or China filling the power vacuum that'd exist if we started dismantling our immoral empire. "If we try to stop Israel from apartheid-ing Palestine they'll just go be buds with Russia which is bad because Russia is worse than us :ohdear:." I'd like to be more prepared to offer alternative foreign policy suggestions, but my attempt at finding material on my own hasn't been particularly successful. How does a future socialist US participate in the world? How can we responsibly dismantle our empire while also preventing some other evil power from taking our place? Is that even possible without global solidarity?

https://rhizzone.net/articles/so-you-think-russia-or-china-would-be-better/

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