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Pener Kropoopkin posted:it's the victims of Nazism internalizing that kind of herrenvolk ideology that makes it so disturbing. Part of that probably also stems from Herzl being kinda fascist himself, which was the style at the time.
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Oct 12, 2018 12:38
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Oct 12, 2018 13:59
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Socks4Hands posted:birthright is, according to friends of mine who have gone on it, openly acknowledged to be an attempt to merge late teens early 20's sexuality with zionism incelrael
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Oct 12, 2018 14:28
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Krankenstyle posted:is this offer valid for goyim as well? no but you only need 1 jewish grandparent so thats like 30% of white people
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Oct 12, 2018 14:47
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same as the Nuremberg laws
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Oct 12, 2018 14:48
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if you acted zionist enough you could definitely bullshit your way in
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Oct 12, 2018 15:02
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Just go into the office and pull out your cut rear end hog they have to let you in then
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Oct 12, 2018 15:38
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https://twitter.com/Steagallicious/status/1050066432807989250
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Oct 12, 2018 16:21
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Farm Frenzy posted:if you acted zionist enough you could definitely bullshit your way in hell yea oh wait im not circumcized. thats probably gonna put a damper on things if i get that far lol
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Oct 12, 2018 16:25
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Socks4Hands posted:birthright is, according to friends of mine who have gone on it, openly acknowledged to be an attempt to merge late teens early 20's sexuality with zionism does this apply for the late 20s one too because initially the
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Oct 12, 2018 16:32
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Oct 12, 2018 16:33
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Oct 12, 2018 16:51
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Socks4Hands posted:birthright is, according to friends of mine who have gone on it, openly acknowledged to be an attempt to merge late teens early 20's sexuality with zionism hey dont reduce birthright to that alone you can also take lots of cool fun drugs & get drunk af w/the hot horny IDF youth, and if youre anything like my one friend from high school you can even use the cool drug trips to frame your zionist lovebombing experience as a spiritual journey you went on
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Oct 12, 2018 17:06
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HorrificExistence posted:no but you only need 1 jewish grandparent What now
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Oct 12, 2018 18:19
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SplitSoul posted:Part of that probably also stems from Herzl being kinda fascist himself, which was the style at the time. This is something that I think most people are terrified of talking about : the Israeli government is closer to fascist than anyone wants to admit. If you've never read Eco's Ur Fascism (which I'm sure most if not all of you have or at least seen videos/articles that talk about it), Israel hits a ton of the points. Most notably: -Citizenship hinged on joining the Military -Fear based propaganda and otherism -A far right reaction to left wing policies -Glorification of heroic death -Extreme nationalist pride and so on. Here's the article if you're interested. It's pretty prescient for America right now and most of Europe, too: https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1995/06/22/ur-fascism/ To defend myself a bit, I was using the actual definition of terrorism which is attacking civilians instead of military operations and operatives to create a sense of fear and anxiety for the citizenry. Hamas is definitely doing that. Hot take, I know, but terrorism almost always has a justification that is understandable. But let's not pretend that bus bombing didn't happen in 2016. Further, Israeli news is constantly reminding them of this. You can say that the word terrorism is a bad term, and you're right it is, especially when it's used to describe the Black Panthers. On topic, here's a great video on The Late Capitalism of Fast Food Twitter that came out last week! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6bLq4466LM
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Oct 12, 2018 18:21
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p sure this is the first time the eco essay has been posted in cspam
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Oct 12, 2018 19:12
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Sometimes the ur-fascism essay makes me mad because I'm a big Edward Said fan and would rather describe that same phenomenon as one of its most common implementations, Orientalism
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Oct 12, 2018 19:16
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Krankenstyle posted:p sure this is the first time the eco essay has been posted in cspam I figured it had been posted a million times (which is why I noted that all of you had likely read it, but was just posting to allow you to judge if I had it right), but in this thread and Paul Soccer's I had yet to see it directly used to point towards the Israeli government. Mameluke posted:Sometimes the ur-fascism essay makes me mad because I'm a big Edward Said fan and would rather describe that same phenomenon as one of its most common implementations, Orientalism Oh drat, I haven't thought about "Orientalism" in a long, long time. Thank you for making me look that up again. I remember he got some of the history mixed up and so that was used to discredit that whole book which was completely ridiculous and proved that his critics largely couldn't argue against his thesis. Might just have to get that book again. Yeah, that's a good take, too. But I'd like to argue that I'm not discounting the massive historic revisionism and forced cultural hegemony Europe and America has put these cultures through and how us as English readers miss out on much of the history these cultures have because many of their texts are not translated for us. I think it's a related, but separate point, but a very good one.
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Oct 12, 2018 19:33
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im just joshing you, it totally applies
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Oct 12, 2018 19:41
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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1050809258659344384 then https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1050811017221963776 then https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1050812486226599936 saving life on earth costs too much money man, gotta go to mars more cost effective im depressed lol has issued a correction as of 19:51 on Oct 12, 2018 |
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Oct 12, 2018 19:49
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https://twitter.com/theavclub/status/1050781157657317377
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Oct 12, 2018 19:55
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they tryin ta send me to repair i say no no skynet time
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Oct 12, 2018 20:01
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ew imagine going to a hologram concert thats even worse than watching concert films in a cinema
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Oct 12, 2018 20:10
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im depressed lol posted:https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1050809258659344384 this seems well thought out and totally not the equivalent of a nine year old doodling pictures of a mars space fortress on notebook paper
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Oct 12, 2018 20:14
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we live in the shittiest possible cyberpunk dystopia
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Oct 12, 2018 20:30
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Electric cars don't even necessarily solve the issues with fossil fuels, they just concentrate it into generators that just gives the advantage of economies of scale. So long as coal and natural gas are what our national power grid run on, it's the same net effect. I guess at least pollution gets focused in place instead of spread along road networks? Pener Kropoopkin posted:Bad faith arguments are old hat. The real innovation of Zionism is exploiting adolescent sexuality to cultivate a loyalty to the Israeli state, and while that is a common Fascist program to promote "sexual health" as public health, it's the victims of Nazism internalizing that kind of herrenvolk ideology that makes it so disturbing. It's not a particularly unique innovation. Al Qaeda's promise of 72 virgins and ISIS's practice of literally rewarding loyal members with "wives" hits upon the same basic concept. England in the World Wars had its own program that tried to use women to shame people into enlisting with its Order of the White Feather.
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Oct 12, 2018 20:54
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SlothfulCobra posted:Electric cars don't even necessarily solve the issues with fossil fuels, they just concentrate it into generators that just gives the advantage of economies of scale. So long as coal and natural gas are what our national power grid run on, it's the same net effect. even with our current grid mix electric cars are better  even if you account for the emissions from building a brand new electric car it doesnt take long to be worth it: quote:The emissions estimates presented above compare the use of an EV compared to using a gasoline vehicle. However, there are also emissions associated with the production of these cars, and in general making EVs produces more emissions than a comparable gasoline car. We studied this issue in our Cleaner Cars From Cradle to Grave report in 2015 and found that the extra emissions from making an 80-mile range EV (compared to a similar gasoline car) are about 15% higher. However, this extra emissions debt is quickly recovered by the savings that accrue while using the electric vehicle. of course the big caveat with Tesla is that they turn around and sell those credits to other automakers to allow them to put more polluting cars on the road. so the "saving the world" poo poo is as always bs.
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Oct 12, 2018 20:58
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im depressed lol posted:https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1050809258659344384 according to Google, Elon owns at least five houses, most of which are mansions they're just all in LA that's somehow even more wasteful and excessive than having vacation homss
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Oct 12, 2018 21:00
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mastershakeman posted:What now you only need 1 jewish grandparent for birthright/instant citizenship
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Oct 12, 2018 21:03
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SlothfulCobra posted:Electric cars don't even necessarily solve the issues with fossil fuels, they just concentrate it into generators that just gives the advantage of economies of scale. So long as coal and natural gas are what our national power grid run on, it's the same net effect. ill ad that the loss in the now 2 conversions fossil > electricity > motion instead of 1 fossil > motion is probably quite significant, probably outweighing the economies of scale
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Oct 12, 2018 21:05
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The most disturbing thing about Israeli propaganda is the way they weaponize sex to support Zionism. The 4iL commercial heavily implies that these two babes hosed the dweeb because he "knows the truth about Israel." The Israeli government actively encourages women to gently caress men just because they think Eretz Yisrael Hashlema should span from the Sinai to Mesopotamia. they been on this for years yo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dBNXPfdePs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlOJ-i5hJdI
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Oct 12, 2018 21:07
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Incelrael is real lmao
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Oct 12, 2018 21:15
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https://twitter.com/TheRynheart/status/1050596257402503170
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Oct 12, 2018 21:18
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Main Paineframe posted:according to Google, Elon owns at least five houses, most of which are mansions if he gave a poo poo about these things you'd think he would put PV and his own PowerWall systems in all his houses also all 5 are extremely close to each other, and one of them he bought to serve as a school for his children
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Oct 12, 2018 21:21
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i think the most prescient thing about a lot of og cyberpunk isn't the tech or corporate owned societies per se, it's the absolute lack of popular resistance. the only 2 positions the characters ever hold are "fully tied into the capitalist jungle" or "fully tied into the capitalist jungle, but bitter about it," and if revolution or change of any kind is possible it has to be a lone renegade who can only make change because of automation or exploiting tech loopholes, because the whole populace has been fully subdued by the incredible bread and circuses that any regime in history would be flabbergasted at. if there are counterculture movements they don't try to change anything, just steal enough from the capitalist overlords to hopefully survive and remain beneath notice. and that's where we're at imo
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Oct 12, 2018 21:31
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the only thing gibson got wrong was the grittiness. our cyberpunk present is a boot stamping on a human face forever, but its all smooth white plastic and brushed aluminum
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Oct 12, 2018 21:41
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gotta say, the one thing I never expected from our cyberpunk hellscape future was...whatever this poo poo is https://mobile.twitter.com/Chazraps/status/1050045230555250693 https://mobile.twitter.com/Chazraps/status/1050048217386225665 https://mobile.twitter.com/steak_umm/status/1050782593485029376 https://mobile.twitter.com/steak_umm/status/1050086386672517121 corporate social media accounts are packing up our own cynical misery and feeding it back to us as an advertising tactic it's genuinely depressing, and not in the ironic "lol nothing matters" sense
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Oct 12, 2018 21:50
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Krankenstyle posted:the only thing gibson got wrong was the grittiness. yeah it feels like a lot of the cyberpunk downtown areas are fairly gritty in a dirty, grimey way rather than a "this whole neighborhood is being taken over by nature and/or looks like it was bombed out"
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Oct 12, 2018 21:54
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SlothfulCobra posted:It's not a particularly unique innovation. Al Qaeda's promise of 72 virgins and ISIS's practice of literally rewarding loyal members with "wives" hits upon the same basic concept. Those aren't the same basic concept at all. The 72 virgins thing is a theological promise in an afterlife that never has to be honored in real life,, and ISIS's sex slaves aren't willing participants. Zionist ideology convinces young women, specifically teenagers, to become willing sexual participants for the recreation of the Israeli state.
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Oct 12, 2018 21:54
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bawfuls posted:
He could also show he gives a poo poo by you know, not owning five mansions in LA 
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