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1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

hello :)
Im sure for a lot of people installing new hardware simply installing new drivers over the old works for them, but we just see too many problems. Its so widespread most of us have actually experienced problems with that. DDU makes it all go away. Yes its a hassle, but its much less of a hassle if you download it right off the bat before you waste time with a bad driver install and get angry (and lets be honest youre just wiggling your hand a few times)

edit: and remember this isnt something you do every month, its just for new hardware. DDU is useful if you experience problems later but I get the impression some feel like they have to run DDU for the rest of their lives

1gnoirents fucked around with this message at 15:08 on Oct 12, 2018

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Wrar
Sep 9, 2002


Soiled Meat
Seconding a DDU run through. A little time up front to prevent a potential giant headache.

HalloKitty
Sep 30, 2005

Adjust the bass and let the Alpine blast

DrDork posted:

Nuking with DDU is never a bad option, adds all of like 5 minutes to the whole process, and can help prevent some random issues that might crop up with a jump like that. I see no reason not to do it.

That's the way I feel about it - every time.

Scionix
Oct 17, 2009

hoog emm xDDD
update: EVGA does not have a way for me to get an I/O shield

any other ideas

Dead Goon
Dec 13, 2002

No Obvious Flaws



Scionix posted:

update: EVGA does not have a way for me to get an I/O shield

any other ideas

eBay or /r/hardwareswap maybe?

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

Ebay

Also i think i saw some german site that sells them

Sidesaddle Cavalry
Mar 15, 2013

Oh Boy Desert Map
I had to use eBay for the I/O shield on my motherboard

Zero VGS
Aug 16, 2002
ASK ME ABOUT HOW HUMAN LIVES THAT MADE VIDEO GAME CONTROLLERS ARE WORTH MORE
Lipstick Apathy

Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:

I had to use eBay for the I/O shield on my motherboard

I once bitched at Asus enough to get them to send me a free I/O shield, and once EVGA was nice enough to give me a PSU to 40-pin motherboard cable my dog chewed up, so you never know.

On eBay you might find a completely broken GPU you can grab the IO shield for. As was mentioned I'd just sell it as-is on SA-Mart.

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

The effort and time (potential depreciation, valuing your own time ) is probably not worth the effort I agree

Some nerd will buy it as is

DrDork
Dec 29, 2003
commanding officer of the Army of Dorkness

Statutory Ape posted:

Some nerd will buy it as is

Yeah, really, knock $5 or $10 off it and call it a day. Plenty enough people will simply slap it in their rig and never care that it doesn't have a little metal bit on the back of it that they'll never see while it's shoved up against a wall.

Stanley Pain
Jun 16, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
What are people's boost clocks hitting on their 2080s stock settings? My Gigabyte 2080 boosts to around 1975Mhz which I think is pretty swank.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
So my local Micro Center has a "complete as-is" 2080 XC Ultra open box for ~$760. I'm going to see if it's still there by the time I get off work. I'll let fate decide if it should be mine. Plus, MC is bad at purging sold OB items from their website, so it might already be history.

Even if there's something wrong with it, it's still fully warranty-able, but it might be 2-3 weeks before I can actually put it in my new system. :negative:

VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009

BIG HEADLINE posted:

So my local Micro Center has a "complete as-is" 2080 XC Ultra open box for ~$760. I'm going to see if it's still there by the time I get off work. I'll let fate decide if it should be mine. Plus, MC is bad at purging sold OB items from their website, so it might already be history.

Even if there's something wrong with it, it's still fully warranty-able, but it might be 2-3 weeks before I can actually put it in my new system. :negative:

Cmon I thought we were going to be 9900k/2080ti bros?

Hace
Feb 13, 2012

<<Mobius 1, Engage.>>
I got a $300 1070ti off ebay from some crypto washout and it's pretty drat nice. MSI titanium with +189/+400 after messing with benches. I thought it was even better than that until I realized Time Spy is wayyyyy too lenient with unstable clocks.

Its nice not having to use a fuckin 770 anymore.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

VelociBacon posted:

Cmon I thought we were going to be 9900k/2080ti bros?

Definitely not buying a 2080Ti. I'll be fine with a 2080, and what I think I'm going to do is buy an EVGA 2070 and take my time to Step Up. Anything that cuts the price down to allow me to stomach a 9900K purchase.

Gyrotica
Nov 26, 2012

Grafted to machines your builders did not understand.
I wish I could bring myself to shell out for an RTX 2080/2080ti, but they seem like a wet fart in terms of actual gains for money when I have a 1080 already.

Scionix
Oct 17, 2009

hoog emm xDDD
I don't really understand the 9900k with zen 2 six months from now. Isn't an overclocked 2700x about 8700k performance?

Llamadeus
Dec 20, 2005

Scionix posted:

Isn't an overclocked 2700x about 8700k performance?
Only in very parallel workloads like Cinebench or x264. In single thread dependent applications and games there's still quite a large gulf.

The 9900K will be ahead in both so they'll be able to charge a large premium for it, maybe even after the next generation of Ryzens launch.

Llamadeus fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Oct 12, 2018

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

hello :)
just

buy

it

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

Scionix posted:

I don't really understand the 9900k with zen 2 six months from now. Isn't an overclocked 2700x about 8700k performance?

there is always somethin 6 month away*

*(except in graphics cards lol)

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

I mean, how long are you gonna live for anyway?

craig588
Nov 19, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
It's not like the 8600K and the 2700, getting to 8 Intel cores costs a lot more right now for marginal performance gains. If you can use 8 (or 16) cores the 9700/9900K is a hard choice over the AMD 2700, the top end never makes financial sense, but this time it's almost twice as much.

Maybe that's why they didn't drop support for the 370, a 2700 and a good motherboard will cost similar or more than a 9700K into the same motherboard you already have.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
The only thing keeping me from going Ryzen is that I'm not a fan of the ~Infinity Fabric~ and how finicky it is with RAM. That's just *my* hang-up about it. And while I don't think AMD is going anywhere, I *know* Intel isn't going anywhere, even if they're definitely behind the 8-ball here for a while until Tech Jesus can design a new exotic chip architecture for them with all the money they're paying him.

Zero VGS
Aug 16, 2002
ASK ME ABOUT HOW HUMAN LIVES THAT MADE VIDEO GAME CONTROLLERS ARE WORTH MORE
Lipstick Apathy
I still demand a die shrink before getting another Intel CPU, but some loving solder for a change is a step in the right direction.

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

BIG HEADLINE posted:

The only thing keeping me from going Ryzen is that I'm not a fan of the ~Infinity Fabric~ and how finicky it is with RAM. That's just *my* hang-up about it. And while I don't think AMD is going anywhere, I *know* Intel isn't going anywhere, even if they're definitely behind the 8-ball here for a while until Tech Jesus can design a new exotic chip architecture for them with all the money they're paying him.
don't you mean Tech Yahweh

VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009

Another goon gave me a heads up for this EVGA Bios Update. It's from 3 weeks ago, anyone comment on it? It seems to boost the power target to 130% which I thought was the default for the 2080ti XC Ultra anyways.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:

I mean, how long are you gonna live for anyway?

Without raytracing? Too long.

zer0spunk
Nov 6, 2000

devil never even lived

1gnoirents posted:


edit: dont be concerned at the selling price though till the end, like all ebay auctions everything happens in the last hour, the whole point of starting at 0.01 is to get people invested

I wussed out and set a reserve but otherwise followed your advice. I listed last night around 9pm, so it should end sunday night. It's just shy of a day old and is at 225/44 bids. Let's see how right you are!

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

hello :)

zer0spunk posted:

I wussed out and set a reserve but otherwise followed your advice. I listed last night around 9pm, so it should end sunday night. It's just shy of a day old and is at 225/44 bids. Let's see how right you are!

Yeah you already win with 44 bids at 1 day in. People dont like reserves (as unrealistic as it is getting a 1080 for $50, thats the whole reason people lose their minds, with a reserve that changes things) but as long as it was set realistically you'll be golden

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH
I don’t understand the reasons for Intel in general right now, but I still need to sell my ancient hardware at ridiculously marked up prices and replace it with Ryzen, so I guess I have stake in their overinflated brand value.

Intel Inside, everybody! CHONG! DUN-DUN-DUN-DONG! Please buy my five year old CPU for $200.

Zedsdeadbaby
Jun 14, 2008

You have been called out, in the ways of old.

Scionix posted:

I don't really understand the 9900k with zen 2 six months from now. Isn't an overclocked 2700x about 8700k performance?

The 8700 trounces the 2700 in games but that's not the point - the Ryzen CPUs are budget kings and are incredibly powerful for how much they cost. On the last page for example there was an example I posted where you could get a 2700x, a motherboard, 16GB of 3200mhz memory AND a 480GB SSD for only slightly more than just a 8700 CPU.

Side by side the 8700 is superior gaming choice solely judging by performance but it's an enormous rip-off.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

I mean, if you are looking for midrange gaming, the 8400 is still probably the king. It's price increase has only been about $20, so its still about ~$10 cheaper than a 2600X and beats it pretty soundly in every game. Hell, it matches the 8700k in pretty much everything too, especially if you uncork its TDP.

Going further down the stack is where AMD shines, imo. The 2600 is def the king of the ~$150 zone.

Whenever AMD actually release the 2500X and 2300X, it will be interesting to see how they review. Depending on the price, AMD may well continue to clean up the low range. The Coffee Lake Refresh offerings at the mid/low end don't look super compelling.

Cygni fucked around with this message at 01:24 on Oct 13, 2018

Saturnine Aberrance
Sep 6, 2010

Creator.

Please make me flesh.


Re the 34" ultrawides; I got an an X34P for about the same price as the cheapest the alienware has gone down to thus far, and I'm quite happy when it. Same exact panel, no color problems, no light Lee's, 120hz runs perfectly, no dead pixels or flickering. Haven't a bad thing to say about it so far. Get whichever is cheaper at the time you're in the market I guess. Just make sure you're getting the X34P and not the older x34.

il serpente cosmico
May 15, 2003

Best five bucks I've ever spend.
I'm curious to see how the new 8-core i7 does without hyperthreading compared to the 8700k's 6 cores / 12 threads.

I also wonder how well the 9000 series will do on the 370 chipset vs. 390

il serpente cosmico fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Oct 13, 2018

Deviant
Sep 26, 2003

i've forgotten all of your names.


Scionix posted:

I don't really understand the 9900k with zen 2 six months from now. Isn't an overclocked 2700x about 8700k performance?

gently caress red team

Aeka 2.0
Nov 16, 2000

:ohdear: Have you seen my apex seals? I seem to have lost them.




Dinosaur Gum

VelociBacon posted:

Another goon gave me a heads up for this EVGA Bios Update. It's from 3 weeks ago, anyone comment on it? It seems to boost the power target to 130% which I thought was the default for the 2080ti XC Ultra anyways.

I'm using it on my zotac just fine.



What is everyone stress testing their cards with? I thought I was stable after running loops of time spy but I got a soft crash after 10 mins of overwatch.

VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009

Aeka 2.0 posted:

I'm using it on my zotac just fine.



What is everyone stress testing their cards with? I thought I was stable after running loops of time spy but I got a soft crash after 10 mins of overwatch.

Yeah time spy isn't very GPU stressful. Try OCCT GPU test.

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Aeka 2.0 posted:

I'm using it on my zotac just fine.



What is everyone stress testing their cards with? I thought I was stable after running loops of time spy but I got a soft crash after 10 mins of overwatch.

if you arent OCing to hit a certain bench score then the way to stress test is using the actual application you plan on using if possible. Every game is different and some poorly coded games will kill the most stable OC like for honor and pubg

If you are seeking stability in Overwatch why would someone stress test with something that isnt Overwatch?

90s Solo Cup
Feb 22, 2011

To understand the cup
He must become the cup



Scionix posted:

I don't really understand the 9900k with zen 2 six months from now. Isn't an overclocked 2700x about 8700k performance?

I'm interested in the 9900k, but not $500 MSRP interested. I'd rather go with AMD and just wait on Zen 2.

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Sep 17, 2017

Hold The Ashes fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Oct 13, 2018

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