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Don't forget ASB going with "Jean-Pierre Eiffel" for some reason e: not to mention the bizarre ones from HFTF way back that mostly read like mistransliterations
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Michel Polnareff is a very famous French musician Hes also the design inspiration for Donflamingo in one piece I think
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Oct 15, 2018 16:31
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I know but even EoH going with just "Jean-Pierre" was less cheesy than that
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Oct 15, 2018 16:36
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his real name is Benimaru
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Oct 15, 2018 16:38
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Expect My Mom posted:his real name is Benimaru No, no, you have it backwards, Benimaru's real name is Polnareff.
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Oct 15, 2018 16:40
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honestly im considering putting a memoriam on all copyright name talk. it's a cyclical conversation that comes up a lot, people get real itchy with spoilers when its talked about and no one here is a copyright lawyer that can answer everyone's (totally understandable) questions. it's just a byproduct of getting any translated JoJo and im a bit weary it let me know what u think
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Blaze Dragon posted:No, no, you have it backwards, Benimaru's real name is Polnareff.
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sliding this under the door before moratorium
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Oct 15, 2018 17:03
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2wKDxhjv8M&t=27s I appreciate this.
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Petition for a new JoJo fighting game with the same amount of love as the 1998 one but made with Unreal Engine like Dragon Ball FighterZ. Yes, that means special
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I just can't handle arguing whose in the limited character roster any ore.
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Oct 15, 2018 17:37
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Oxyclean posted:What's the source on the official translated names for stuff we haven't seen yet? Has there been officially translated manga? most of the part 3 name changes were for the english release of the part 3 manga back in the '00s and were chosen by Araki himself (hence why they're still music references, just ones they were able to clear). Most of the later part name changes are from ASB/EoH, but not all.
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Expect My Mom posted:honestly im considering putting a memoriam on all copyright name talk. it's a cyclical conversation that comes up a lot, people get real itchy with spoilers when its talked about and no one here is a copyright lawyer that can answer everyone's (totally understandable) questions. it's just a byproduct of getting any translated JoJo and im a bit weary it I'm considering putting a memoriam on your rear end pal
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Expect My Mom posted:honestly im considering putting a memoriam on all copyright name talk. it's a cyclical conversation that comes up a lot, people get real itchy with spoilers when its talked about and no one here is a copyright lawyer that can answer everyone's (totally understandable) questions. it's just a byproduct of getting any translated JoJo and im a bit weary it it's surprising that the show can even get away with just changing the subtitles and other very minor changes without getting into legal trouble. for example, if Araki made the exact same comic, but changed all the names to Mickey, Goofy, Donald Duck, etc. instead, he'd get sued before the first episode finished airing. old rock stars and their estates are only a little less litigious than Disney. if you say "GOLD EXPERIENCE" into a mirror three times, Prince comes back from the dead to issue you a cease and desist.
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Oct 15, 2018 22:51
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I’m not a copyright lawyer but copyright laws are pretty vague and extremely favorable to people who make claims and it’s a minefield that it’s best to steer clear from as much as possible
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Oct 15, 2018 22:53
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The audio is a product made in Japan and is bound by Japanese trademark laws. For the purposes of copyright and such, the subtitles are a brand new product created in America and are bound by US trademark law. It's weird, yeah.
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Oct 15, 2018 22:55
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Augus posted:I’m not a copyright lawyer but copyright laws are pretty vague and extremely favorable to people who make claims and it’s a minefield that it’s best to steer clear from as much as possible Waffleman_ posted:The audio is a product made in Japan and is bound by Japanese trademark laws. For the purposes of copyright and such, the subtitles are a brand new product created in America and are bound by US trademark law. It's weird, yeah. TenementFunster fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Oct 15, 2018 |
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Oct 15, 2018 23:00
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As far as stuff like Echoes being generic words, wouldn't the fact that fans of the series were able to make a connection to a Pink Floyd song mean that lawyers would be able to argue there is reason using the name would be intruding on their brand? It's annoying but I can understand them taking all the precautions they can to not get sued. It wouldn't kill them to come up with something better than Zipper Man though. A few of the part 5 stands make it seem like they just phoned it in.
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Oct 15, 2018 23:18
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it's something that literally doesn't matter so i'm never sure why people fixate on it so much
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yeah actually they will posted:I'm considering putting a memoriam on your rear end pal noted, please continue TenementFunster posted:i'm not your copyright lawyer, but the general rule is the US is you can't make money off of unauthorized uses of somebody's name or likeness. in reality, such cases revolve around someone using a famous person's likeness along with a fake name, but technically a cartoon about punch ghosts using a bunch of old band names could trip the trigger too, even if the underlying characters are nothing like the famous people they are named after. it's reason they made the M. Bison/Balrog/Vega switch in the US version of Street Fighter.
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Oct 15, 2018 23:27
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Just hire weird al to come up with new names, literally nobody is gonna sue weird al
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Oct 15, 2018 23:39
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Johnny Joestar posted:it's something that literally doesn't matter so i'm never sure why people fixate on it so much yeah, when you literally hear the actual name over and over, I don't see why anyone would care what the subs said. Of course I grew up with horrible 3rd rate subs on Hong Kong movies so maybe I'm just numb.
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Tunicate posted:Just hire weird al to come up with new names, literally nobody is gonna sue weird al Nobody sues Weird Al because Weird Al always asks permission from the original artist.
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Darko posted:yeah, when you literally hear the actual name over and over, I don't see why anyone would care what the subs said. That's gonna be one downside of official English releases of the manga though.
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Waffleman_ posted:Nobody sues Weird Al because Weird Al always asks permission from the original artist. Also because parody is explicitly covered. Legally he doesn't have to ask them. He just does it because he's that nice of a guy. Which maybe was your original point? Idk, I'll go now.
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jivjov posted:That's gonna be one downside of official English releases of the manga though. Good point; didn't even think about that. That does kind of suck.
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Fender Anarchist posted:Also because parody is explicitly covered. Legally he doesn't have to ask them. Crunchyroll doesn't have nearly the resources or connections of an RCA or a Capitol Records. i'm still shocked they get away with it. TenementFunster fucked around with this message at 00:53 on Oct 16, 2018 |
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The fake names only bother me because imo while the original names are just musical references, they have a certain gravitas to them. If they made an effort to replicate that feeling for the more important stands instead of just lazy self-parody it wouldn't be so bad
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Oct 16, 2018 00:47
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I saw a comment mentioning it and now I can't unhear "Farting Gold" in the OP.
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Oct 16, 2018 01:33
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Going back to ED chat, in 1998, K-Ci & JoJo collaborated with Gang Starr to produce the song Royalty. That's pretty much perfect for part five.
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tweet my meat posted:I like how they keep the jojo in his name with giogio, but it also has the io from DIO. 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUIbBkaWddA Avoid the comments, there's already dickheads there posting spoilers for Part 5.
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RatHat posted:I saw a comment mentioning it and now I can't unhear "Farting Gold" in the OP. tbf that's also an appropriate description of giorno's stand
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RaspberryCommie posted:I'm not entirely sure how to feel about Fighting Gold. I agree with this. I've listened to it a bunch. And I really like it as a song. But it doesn't really feel like a JoJo opening. The others feel like they were written specifically for JoJo, but Fighting Gold sounds like you could just throw it in front of another anime and it would still fit.
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Oct 16, 2018 21:43
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Aquasnake posted:I agree with this. I've listened to it a bunch. And I really like it as a song. But it doesn't really feel like a JoJo opening. That's kind of how I felt on the first listen, but then I listened to the full version with headphones on. There are few if any non-JoJo animes that are fabulous enough to live up to CODA belting like that.
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Oct 16, 2018 21:47
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yeah the song Fighting Gold really doesn't fit the anime with the character Golden Experience in it
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Oct 16, 2018 21:48
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Fighting Gold is extremely good and very fitting JoJo reinvents itself with every part. People were saying Crazy Noisy Bizzare Town didn’t “sound like JoJo” at first too.
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Oct 16, 2018 21:58
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Augus posted:Fighting Gold is extremely good and very fitting yep
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Oct 16, 2018 22:00
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jojo has a wide variety of ops and every single one of them has fans who say it's their favorite, there's no point in saying one of them 'doesn't feel' like jojo because there's a fair amount to who it does without an absolute doubt
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Johnny Joestar posted:jojo has a wide variety of ops and every single one of them has fans who say it's their favorite, there's no point in saying one of them 'doesn't feel' like jojo because there's a fair amount to who it does without an absolute doubt except chase.
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