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I hate how destiny 2 downgraded the amount of people in a match.
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Oct 15, 2018 20:27
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Oh go gently caress yourself modern advertising industry! Did you seriously just do this? Am I going to get Destiny 2 ads now too? Cool, thanks.
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Oct 15, 2018 21:06
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Tenzarin posted:I hate how destiny 2 downgraded the amount of people in a match. They changed that back because everyone else did too
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Oct 15, 2018 21:53
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SwitchbladeKult posted:Oh go gently caress yourself modern advertising industry! Did you seriously just do this?
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Oct 15, 2018 22:26
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:Warframe costs an increasing amount of whaletokens to buy slots for, so keep that in mind once you find many things worth using~ You can get premium currency trivially by selling things you earn by playing the game for free. The whaleconomy is there for goons to exploit
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Oct 15, 2018 22:27
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Did I hear right? Certain items now have level requirements?
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Oct 16, 2018 00:51
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According to matn, there's damage normalisation between players of different levels that fight one another (so weaker players get some sort of buff, and vice versa). Another thing I have no idea how they will sensibly balance.
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Oct 16, 2018 01:37
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Rinkles posted:Did I hear right? Certain items now have level requirements? I thought this was every item
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Oct 16, 2018 01:44
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how do you repair weapons? with specific types and amounts of junk?
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Oct 16, 2018 02:20
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Rinkles posted:how do you repair weapons? with specific types and amounts of junk? I believe so, yeah. I think one of those Greenbrier videos said that you don't just combine weapons of the same type together anymore but you can scrap weapons for junk then use that junk to repair other weapons or build or whatnot.
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Oct 16, 2018 02:25
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does that require a workbench? (also i might not end up playing this at launch, my brother (who's copy I would be using) is having second thoughts about preordering)
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Oct 16, 2018 02:31
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Rinkles posted:According to matn, there's damage normalisation between players of different levels that fight one another (so weaker players get some sort of buff, and vice versa). Another thing I have no idea how they will sensibly balance. I really hope down the line they have Pvp only or 'Hardcore' servers. No pvp balance, no players on the map, everyone is hostile. Sorry, but a level 81 in fully upgraded T-60F with a Fat Man shouldn't be a fair fight for a level 7 with a pipe revolver. Every other pvp game has had high level people who gently caress with low levels, and yet we survived and still play them.
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Oct 16, 2018 02:34
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Rinkles posted:does that require a workbench? Yes, scrapping or repairing requires a workbench. You can make one at your camp or find them scattered throughout the world.
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Oct 16, 2018 02:42
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are there production tiers and assembly lines and poo poo? the best part about conan was progressing from wood to stone to finally getting metal weapons and tools, then unlocking new technology that required you to have different production lines. this seems like it will have none of that?
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Oct 16, 2018 02:45
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Gay Horney posted:are there production tiers and assembly lines and poo poo? the best part about conan was progressing from wood to stone to finally getting metal weapons and tools, then unlocking new technology that required you to have different production lines. this seems like it will have none of that? Crafting is barred behind individual recipes and perks, but I think that's about as far as it goes.
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Oct 16, 2018 03:18
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Rinkles posted:Did I hear right? Certain items now have level requirements?  and 35 to use a minigun it should be strength requirements if they want people to not use good weapons too soon but not blueball people so hard
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Oct 16, 2018 03:40
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:yeah you have to be level 5 to use a 10mm pistol now I don't see the issue with level requirements. This is a well known and tested mechanic in multiplayer RPGs. It encourages people to play more by giving them more frequent short-term goals to obtain between the bigger long-term goals.
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Oct 16, 2018 03:52
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I'm getting the impression this game doesn't know what it wants to be. It's not quite a base building game, it's not a survival game, it's not a story based RPG game, it's not a hardcore pvp game. I guess it's a loot game?
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Oct 16, 2018 03:53
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fallout 3 balanced getting sniper rifles and gatling lasers early on by simply just not having its ammo available for you to use freely until the level spawned it it falls apart once you install broken steel, but that was one of the few smart design decisions they made regarding "balancing" content
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Oct 16, 2018 03:53
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It seems that since there are places with high level guns just lying on a spot - like the minigun and plasma pistol, then those level requirements will be the way the game gates content. I don't think its a well thought out system since there is already item degradation and perk requirements ( i think some weapons need perks to use ie some energy weapons) You may have to have the right level of strength/int/perception to use an item + the right level + the right perk cards + whatever you need to make and carry the ammo with all that entails. The closest similar system I can think of was the MMO The secret world.
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Oct 16, 2018 03:53
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xutech posted:It seems that since there are places with high level guns just lying on a spot - like the minigun and plasma pistol, then those level requirements will be the way the game gates content. I don't think its a well thought out system since there is already item degradation and perk requirements ( i think some weapons need perks to use ie some energy weapons) You may have to have the right level of strength/int/perception to use an item + the right level + the right perk cards + whatever you need to make and carry the ammo with all that entails. The closest similar system I can think of was the MMO The secret world. So fallout 76 will be flawed but good?
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Oct 16, 2018 03:59
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Mr Hootington posted:So fallout 76 will be flawed but good? I think that the closest space Fallout 76 will occupy will be that of Minecraft realms, and that that is what the designers are aiming for - small servers of people hanging out. And later on mods to add some different rules to those servers to keep them interesting. You could also look at it as running a dungeon instance in an mmo, but with building as well.
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Oct 16, 2018 04:10
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I threw down my fiver for the beta today it's weird that instead of just printing me a PS4 code to redeem, I was printed a code to redeem on the Bethesda website and now Bethesda will e-mail me instructions for getting on the PS4 beta when it's time like I get that they want more folks signing up for their website but poo poo
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Oct 16, 2018 04:43
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They're actually holding you hostage... you've just described the process in which a ransom is paid. If you don't follow the instructions exactly as they've laid them out, they'll kill you. And remember, no cops.
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Oct 16, 2018 04:48
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Lunatic Sledge posted:I threw down my fiver for the beta today Welcome to the dystopian nightmare timeline where every company decides to try to build their own walled garden ecosystem and where almost all of them are unusable piles of dog poo poo shovelware produced for pennies in South Asia.
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Oct 16, 2018 04:50
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I'll bet they're going to e-mail me the instructions when they figure them out
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Oct 16, 2018 05:51
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Tenzarin posted:Did you make a rhino warframe that drops from the first boss in the game and also make a hek shotgun so you can blast space alien rear end? Rhino + hek is a good way to live that life.
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Oct 16, 2018 08:08
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Rinkles posted:According to matn, there's damage normalisation between players of different levels that fight one another (so weaker players get some sort of buff, and vice versa). Another thing I have no idea how they will sensibly balance. i don't know who this game is for
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Oct 16, 2018 17:26
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Zelder posted:i don't know who this game is for For Zenimax shareholders. They want a piece of that sweet sweet fortnite moola.
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Oct 16, 2018 17:36
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Arcsquad12 posted:For Zenimax shareholders. They want a piece of that sweet sweet fortnite moola. The appeal of Fortnite is on his Battle Royale, and the type of gameplay Fallout 76 will provide can't be more different. The appeal of Fallout 76 seems to be more on people that played Rust, DayZ, Ark,... and they did not found these games streamlined enough, so they are creating a version with wide appeal that copy features from World of Warcraft games.
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Oct 16, 2018 17:49
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So they looked at a genre and said 'we want ot make one of those' but they wanted to make it different to appeal to people who don't like that genre while also ruining alot of the stuff that people who enjoy that genre like? So now the people who might've liked Fallout: Rust are turned off by the changes and people who didn't like Fallout: Rust aren't convinced? Genius.
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Oct 16, 2018 17:55
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I mean, if you believe what Bethesda says (and I don't have any reason not to) the idea first started as a multiplayer Fallout 4 prototype that they didn't have time/manpower to integrate into the main game.
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Oct 16, 2018 18:00
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Fair Bear Maiden posted:I mean, if you believe what Bethesda says (and I don't have any reason not to) the idea first started as a multiplayer Fallout 4 prototype that they didn't have time/manpower to integrate into the main game. It's become very painfully obvious that this was meant to be part of FO4 but they didn't have the time to do it. So they spun it off as a full priced standalone but I'm not sure it's fleshed out enough to justify. We'll see pretty soon I guess. The more I see of it the less interested I've found myself.
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Oct 16, 2018 18:04
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same. i defended the cash shop ardently in this thread mostly because people were being so dumb it polarized me but I'm skipping this for sure
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Oct 16, 2018 18:32
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They should have looked at FarCry 5 for their multiplayer. Basically just drop-in co-op but otherwise nothing different from the single player experience. Maybe they could also steal from Watch Dogs 2 and have players randomly pop up in each other’s games where they could either PvP or trade or team up. Make it just another random wasteland event.
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Oct 16, 2018 18:50
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Zelder posted:i don't know who this game is for I guess me. I liked the exploring in Fallout 4 but thought the story was silly and wished it had multiplayer.  I'm still trying to figure out why people are mad they are adding more traditional RPG elements. Wasn't one of the big complaints about FO4 that it felt too much like an action shooter and not enough like an RPG? ↓  ↓
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Oct 16, 2018 19:09
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^^^ ^^^Zelder posted:i don't know who this game is for It's for me. It's meant to be co-op with a little bit of PvP.
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Oct 16, 2018 19:15
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"FO4 Multiplayer" would be best as like, one or two other people. Just me, my buddy, and Valentine running around together, I wouldn't even care if it forced both players to always be in the same cell or whatever. We don't have to get too far away from each other. Actually I just had a thought: Emotes! What kind of emotes will there be? Can I Fortnight dance in Fallout? Can I do a jaunty whistling walk? Can I /smooch Mothman? Now thats what really matters. Emotes. Give me emotes based off all the Pipboy perk animations. Like, let me type /bloodymess and make my character just fuckin instagib. Why not. gently caress it.
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Oct 16, 2018 19:41
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I think emotes are the major game feature.
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Oct 16, 2018 19:53
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Wrr posted:Actually I just had a thought: Emotes! What kind of emotes will there be? Can I Fortnight dance in Fallout? Can I do a jaunty whistling walk? Can I /smooch Mothman? Now thats what really matters. Emotes. Give me emotes based off all the Pipboy perk animations. Like, let me type /bloodymess and make my character just fuckin instagib. Why not. gently caress it.
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