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Oh look, an excuse for me to pick up Assassin's Trophies- https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-ubg-60662#paper 4 Archive Trap 4 Assassin's Trophy 1 Bloodstained Mire 1 Breeding Pool 1 Darkslick Shores 2 Ensnaring Bridge 2 Extirpate 2 Fatal Push 3 Field of Ruin 1 Flooded Strand 4 Fraying Sanity 4 Glimpse the Unthinkable 4 Hedron Crab 2 Island 1 Manic Scribe 1 Marsh Flats 4 Mesmeric Orb 3 Mind Funeral 1 Oboro, Palace in the Clouds 1 Overgrown Tomb 4 Polluted Delta 2 Swamp 2 Trapmaker's Snare 4 Visions of Beyond 2 Watery Grave //sideboard 1 Crypt Incursion 2 Damnation 2 Damping Sphere 2 Dead Drop 1 Defense Grid 2 Dispel 3 Leyline of the Void 1 Profane Memento 1 Unmoored Ego At least this version of the deck doesn't auto-scoop to a resolved planeswalker 
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 The result of the thought experiment, "Sarkhan isn't modern playable, but...". There might be an entirely different build based around dragons, but I'm sure enough that it's worse that I started here. I played one match against a mardu deck where I landed t1 blood moon game one and then won a grindy game 2 off of garruk/jace, then played against mono U fish and got obliterated in a match where he stumbled on land drops g2 and I had him dead to board when he passed turn t3 (and still might have lost if he'd just had the nuts again as he did in g1/3). I think I needs anger of the gods or blasphemous act + negate for that matchup to be winnable. I'm going to take some version of this to FNM for a little while. Curious what people might do with it, especially the board (my meta is pretty similar to mtgtop8, spirits is something I usually see in the t4 decks with the others more of a hodgepodge that sometimes includes t2/3 stuff like Gifts decks or U tron or whatever). Scavenging ooze definitely needs to be here in some number. I'm not convinced this deck is worse than ponza and it has more interactive games with midrange decks. I want to play the control matchup; I've been playing a lot of UW lately and I am fine with this list against it, might not be much better than 50/50 but I think it's at least that. Cabbages and VHS fucked around with this message at 01:05 on Oct 14, 2018 |
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Oct 14, 2018 01:00
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Skyl3lazer posted:Time to go try to win EW bye #2 holy poo poo i played in a room of mono-bad matchups, still top 8'd then died to another bad matchup. I'm on lands, my opponents were maverick, burn, monoR prison, storm, miracles, and 4c loam. There was a single goblins player in the room I think i had a positive matchup against
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Oct 14, 2018 01:20
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Tim Raines IRL posted:
How are you getting turn 1 Blood Moons?
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Skyl3lazer posted:holy poo poo i played in a room of mono-bad matchups, still top 8'd then died to another bad matchup. It's been like this for me locally for a while now on lands and its not great.
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Oct 14, 2018 02:56
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GoutPatrol posted:How are you getting turn 1 Blood Moons? 2 SSGs? SSG + ritual? There are a few ways.
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Oct 14, 2018 02:57
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Skyl3lazer posted:holy poo poo i played in a room of mono-bad matchups, still top 8'd then died to another bad matchup. Me playing Death and Taxes except the deck also can't beat Goblins.
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Oct 14, 2018 02:58
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GoutPatrol posted:How are you getting turn 1 Blood Moons? sorry t2 have been drinking (obviously, look at the list I'm trying to play in paid games)
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for the legacy players in this thread, may i recommend playing good decks, for example decks with the card Force of Will in them??
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:for the legacy players in this thread, may i recommend playing good decks, for example decks with the card Force of Will in them?? I like infect
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AlternateNu posted:2 SSGs? SSG + ritual? There are a few ways. I ask because they aren't in that list. Turn 2 makes sense though.
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:for the legacy players in this thread, may i recommend playing good decks, for example decks with the card Force of Will in them?? ew why would i want to 2 for 1 myself
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Mezzanon posted:I like infect Infect: Has Force of Will? Check Potential for extremely unlikely turn 2 kill? Check
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Brownhat posted:Infect: Turn 1 if you run the SSG/expedite package On a serious note I'll probably play infect at a 2k next month because it's the best deck I own besides miracles and even though I'm trying to grind the gently caress out of both decks online, I doubt I can play UW well for 8 rounds. Convince me I'm wrong What I want to play is Rector Fit or opposition, but... Cabbages and VHS fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Oct 14, 2018 |
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Oct 14, 2018 17:52
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 Rapidly running out of poo poo to buylist, though I think in this case I doubled my money on the stuff I did sell (largely on the back of a few things like an Alpha black knight and KLD sol ring). Might get rid of the rest of my masterpieces to get a couple volcs.
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Holy poo poo, I need to ditch the back my back to basics. I bought them for like $5 when I tried to play merfolk in legacy, it went about as well as you can imagine it did.
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Cactrot posted:Holy poo poo, I need to ditch the back my back to basics. I bought them for like $5 when I tried to play merfolk in legacy, it went about as well as you can imagine it did. How the gently caress is back to basics 100 bucks.
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Errant Gin Monks posted:How the gently caress is back to basics 100 bucks. I guess miracles plays it and a lot of basics now, and it is unlikely to be reprinted even though it is not on the reserve list.
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Cactrot posted:I guess miracles plays it and a lot of basics now, and it is unlikely to be reprinted even though it is not on the reserve list. There's basically a "soft reserve list" of cards that aren't technically on the reserve list, but they'll likely never get a new version because: - they aren't Modern legal, and - they don't fit WotC's design principles, or - they're way too expensive to include in a secondary "casual" product See: Mana Crypt, which is still $130 despite being in Eternal Masters, and all the judge promos from P3K they've released.
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:for the legacy players in this thread, may i recommend playing good decks, for example decks with the card Force of Will in them?? but winning games with 2/1 first strikers and 3/1 fliers is too funny
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Elyv posted:but winning games with 2/1 first strikers and 3/1 fliers is too funny Uhhh
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PhyrexianLibrarian posted:There's basically a "soft reserve list" of cards that aren't technically on the reserve list, but they'll likely never get a new version because: Could they not print them in a non-modern legal set? Like a special edition of some sort?
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ilmucche posted:Could they not print them in a non-modern legal set? Like a special edition of some sort? They could, in like 2 years, at mythic, for $14/pack. They probably won't though.
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Out of curiosity I read one of the articles about timmies and johnnies etc and it said that call of the herd was a good card. A 3/3 for 4 with flashback doesn't seem that great, espeically compared to call of the conclave or advent of the wurm. Am I just looking at it through a modern lens and it was great in legacy?
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ilmucche posted:Out of curiosity I read one of the articles about timmies and johnnies etc and it said that call of the herd was a good card. A 3/3 for 4 with flashback doesn't seem that great, espeically compared to call of the conclave or advent of the wurm. Am I just looking at it through a modern lens and it was great in legacy? Good enough to be rare in MM2017!
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ilmucche posted:Out of curiosity I read one of the articles about timmies and johnnies etc and it said that call of the herd was a good card. A 3/3 for 4 with flashback doesn't seem that great, espeically compared to call of the conclave or advent of the wurm. Am I just looking at it through a modern lens and it was great in legacy? It was good way back in the day when Odyssey was Standard-legal because you could get two 3/3 tokens for the cost of a single card. Since you can cast it from your graveyard it isn't considering "using up" a card from your hand to cast it the second time around, and as such is net card advantage. ilmucche posted:Could they not print them in a non-modern legal set? Like a special edition of some sort? Wizards occasionally prints Masters sets which are premium booster sets featuring expensive reprints without making them Standard-legal (and charging $10 a pack for it). Unfortunately Wizards kind of whiffed on the two most recent Masters sets and has opted to just stop doing them for a while rather than actually put in the effort to design a really good one, with the caveat that it's impossible to create a Magic product that a handful of randomly-selected Magic players will all consider unequivocally good.
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ilmucche posted:Out of curiosity I read one of the articles about timmies and johnnies etc and it said that call of the herd was a good card. A 3/3 for 4 with flashback doesn't seem that great, espeically compared to call of the conclave or advent of the wurm. Am I just looking at it through a modern lens and it was great in legacy? The front side actually cost 3, but yes. Basically, the card is dated and was considered pushed at the time. Now, it's like, good in limited I guess.
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C-Euro posted:Wizards occasionally prints Masters sets which are premium booster sets featuring expensive reprints without making them Standard-legal (and charging $10 a pack for it). Unfortunately Wizards kind of whiffed on the two most recent Masters sets and has opted to just stop doing them for a while rather than actually put in the effort to design a really good one, with the caveat that it's impossible to create a Magic product that a handful of randomly-selected Magic players will all consider unequivocally good. Two things here. They should stop for a while. They were printing too many masters sets that were not good and charging too much. the first modern masters was unequivocally great.
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Errant Gin Monks posted:Two things here. They were good for a while but the last two definitely felt like they were made just to get made. I long for the reality where the values of IMA and M25 are combined into one set.
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Oct 16, 2018 13:41
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I've had two recent games as ru wizards where my opponent has played a chalice on one and over the next two turns I have just snapped off 4x wizards lightning instead of bolt.
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Iconic Masters should have just been called Eternal Masters 2017 or something else. I think it's a solid set otherwise. Masters 25 has some yummy reprints, but it's full of bullshit like kicking Chalice of the Void, Ensnaring Bridge, and Imperial Recruiter up to mythic and some really bizarre decisions like Tree of Redemption (supposedly as a last second switch from Tarmogoyf).
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Everyone loves goyf reprints, so that decision was incredibly weird to me. They could have just plunked in vengevine instead and no one (or at least fewer people) would have batted an eye.
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ilmucche posted:Could they not print them in a non-modern legal set? Like a special edition of some sort? That's kind of the point; they _could_, but they _won't_. Like, there's no real reason they couldn't put Back to Basics in an Eternal Masters 2 set, but it sure seems like they've changed the kind of cards they pick for that set. Here's all the cards over $20 that aren't on the reserve list and aren't Modern legal. They could reprint any of them if they fit WotC's modern design for drafting. But it's mostly tutors, land hate, broken mana, and a lot of P3K cards. Of the ones on that list, I'd say Food Chain is the most likely to end up in a Commander product or something.
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PhyrexianLibrarian posted:That's kind of the point; they _could_, but they _won't_. Like, there's no real reason they couldn't put Back to Basics in an Eternal Masters 2 set, but it sure seems like they've changed the kind of cards they pick for that set. Recruiter of the Guard and Command Beacon are over $20 now? 
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PhyrexianLibrarian posted:That's kind of the point; they _could_, but they _won't_. Like, there's no real reason they couldn't put Back to Basics in an Eternal Masters 2 set, but it sure seems like they've changed the kind of cards they pick for that set. Thanks for reminding me that I passed a Selvala in a CN2 draft where I was the first person to get bounced from my pod. Also Goblin Settler seem innocuous enough to easily get reprinted in some supplemental product. Does it even see Legacy or Vintage play?
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C-Euro posted:Thanks for reminding me that I passed a Selvala in a CN2 draft where I was the first person to get bounced from my pod. It has been seen in Goblins before.
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PhyrexianLibrarian posted:That's kind of the point; they _could_, but they _won't_. Like, there's no real reason they couldn't put Back to Basics in an Eternal Masters 2 set, but it sure seems like they've changed the kind of cards they pick for that set. Pretty sure I own temporal manipulation and exploration. If only I could find them again I could afford better decks.
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Errant Gin Monks posted:Two things here. I don't think they should stop printing Masters sets for a while. I think they should print them once a year like they were doing from Modern Masters 15 on until they randomly decided to throw out two mediocre Masters sets less than 6 months apart rather than stick to the schedule they had established.
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