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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:By definition, he does not. That's my whole point!!!
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The people were willing to overlook it, just refuse to consider it, because it obviously WAS unprofitable, as Moogie, Zek, and Rom showed at the end of DS9. We tend to forget that Ferengi capitalism wasn't just an economic system but the state religion, and the subjugation of  was merely a higher tenet than profit at all costs even if no one explicitly said so on screen
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Is there a game that lets you explore the Enterprise D or Deep Space Nine the way Elite Force lets you explore voyager? Because it'd be super cool to have that for a ship and crew I actually give a poo poo about.
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LividLiquid posted:Is there a game that lets you explore the Enterprise D or Deep Space Nine the way Elite Force lets you explore voyager? Because it'd be super cool to have that for a ship and crew I actually give a poo poo about. There was a fan project underway called Stage 9 and then CBS got all peepants about it.
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LividLiquid posted:Is there a game that lets you explore the Enterprise D or Deep Space Nine the way Elite Force lets you explore voyager? Because it'd be super cool to have that for a ship and crew I actually give a poo poo about. They just redid DS9 in Star Trek Online 
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LividLiquid posted:Is there a game that lets you explore the Enterprise D or Deep Space Nine the way Elite Force lets you explore voyager? Because it'd be super cool to have that for a ship and crew I actually give a poo poo about. Stage 9! Oh.
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I always skipped The Dauphin, but i though I'd give it a whirl. The first 20 minutes are amazing. An old lady who is Madchen Amick for like two seconds and then is also a screeching death Furby! Worf's Mating Roar! Riker picking up Guinan! then it slides off a cliff so loving hard oh my god turn left wesley noooooooo i was right, gently caress this episode. watch the first 20 minutes and then skip the rest unless you want to get the urge to violently drown a young wil wheaton in chocolate pudding.
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:i was right, gently caress this episode. watch the first 20 minutes and then skip the rest unless you want to get the urge to violently drown a young wil wheaton in chocolate pudding. that's orange county foreplay
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Pick posted:that's orange county foreplay i was gonna say "a party at bryan singer's house"
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LividLiquid posted:Is there a game that lets you explore the Enterprise D or Deep Space Nine the way Elite Force lets you explore voyager? Because it'd be super cool to have that for a ship and crew I actually give a poo poo about. You can explore a little bit of DS9 and the Defiant in The Fallen, plus that game has a pretty sweet level on a crashed Miranda-class ship.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:There was a fan project underway called Stage 9 and then CBS got all peepants about it. I know this is probably  but is there somewhere to get old versions of this?I just want to walk around the Enterprise-D and enjoy your dumb nerd franchise, CBS. 
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Ben Nerevarine posted:I know this is probably Look up the website address on archive.org.
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The_Doctor posted:Look up the website address on archive.org. Thanks 
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I have a question about the Weyouns in DS9. They're all clones but how do they transfer the new memories and experiences that the previous Weyoun makes into the fresh Weyoun? After a Weyoun dies the next Weyoun will talk and reference things the previous Weyoun did or talked about with other people as if he were the previous Weyoun. Do they explain this? I may have missed it or am too dumb to see the obvious. By the way the guy who plays Weyoun is the absolute best. What a joy to watch.
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They never explain it. The Vorta cloning process was created specifically so they could get Jeff Combs to play the same dude a bunch of times without having to worry about killing him off. I guess you could think of it as the Founders having a little jar with Weyoun’s soul in it which they parcel out to each individual clone, or else they indoctrinate each clone with an idea of Weyounness or something. The Weyouns’ personalities aren’t quite identical though it’s hard to say whether that’s because his character is developing over time or because each one is in fact different in some substantive way. There’s really quite a lot more they could have done with Weyoun, it’s a fun character concept for sure but (as with Dax which is a kind of similar concept) they never really wanted to explore it too deeply.
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It was literally so they could bring Jeffrey combs back because he's cool and fun . It was a good decision .
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I bet Worf knows how it works, maybe you should talk to Worf again.
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I want DIS to create increasingly lazy ways of roping in Jeffery Combs
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HD DAD posted:I want DIS to create increasingly lazy ways of roping in Jeffery Combs I don't play it but my understanding is that Star Trek Online basically did this
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There's apparently a book where a weyoun clone becomes the bajoran kai because man those books dont give a poo poo
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DuhSal posted:I have a question about the Weyouns in DS9. They're all clones but how do they transfer the new memories and experiences that the previous Weyoun makes into the fresh Weyoun? After a Weyoun dies the next Weyoun will talk and reference things the previous Weyoun did or talked about with other people as if he were the previous Weyoun. Do they explain this? I may have missed it or am too dumb to see the obvious. The Weyoun clones are raised in Venture Brother style learning beds but instead of learning a high school curriculum, all the content is about the previous Weyoun's life, including a live feed of the events leading up to his death.
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STO brought back a lot of Star Trek actors. Basically everyone but the main TNG crew. It is F2P but it doesn't hurt you if you don't pay. It's old as poo poo now, but it gets updates regularly and they just added a bunch of Discovery stuff (with Tilly's voice actress) and new facial animations. Ground combat is a joke but Space combat is surprisingly fun at times.
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WampaLord posted:The Weyoun clones are raised in Venture Brother style learning beds but instead of learning a high school curriculum, all the content is about the previous Weyoun's life, including a live feed of the events leading up to his death. I want this
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skasion posted:They never explain it. The Vorta cloning process was created specifically so they could get Jeff Combs to play the same dude a bunch of times without having to worry about killing him off. I guess you could think of it as the Founders having a little jar with Weyoun’s soul in it which they parcel out to each individual clone, or else they indoctrinate each clone with an idea of Weyounness or something. The Weyouns’ personalities aren’t quite identical though it’s hard to say whether that’s because his character is developing over time or because each one is in fact different in some substantive way. There’s really quite a lot more they could have done with Weyoun, it’s a fun character concept for sure but (as with Dax which is a kind of similar concept) they never really wanted to explore it too deeply. During one of the finale episodes I think the main Founder, in response to the Vorta scientists not being able to create a cure for the disease they were infected with, told Weyoun to have all the data backed-up, the current scientists executed, and to activate their clones for a "new perspective." Considering what we're shown of their genetic manipulation it seems plausible they have a baseline personality and traits but with new experiences leading to a new-ish person.
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Pick posted:I want this *Overly cheery Founder voice* "The previous Weyoun served the Founders with distinction! You shall do the same!" *clip plays of Weyoun getting his neck snapped by Worf* "Now there's an example of a Wrong Weyoun! You don't want to be a Wrong Weyoun, now do you?"
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Considering the one Weyoun went way off message, I think they're all different people even if they're grown from a common stock. So less cloning in the photocopy way and more in the identical twin way.
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WampaLord posted:*Overly cheery Founder voice* "The previous Weyoun served the Founders with distinction! You shall do the same!" Goofus and Gammaquadrant.
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WampaLord posted:The Weyoun clones are raised in Venture Brother style learning beds but instead of learning a high school curriculum, all the content is about the previous Weyoun's life, including a live feed of the events leading up to his death. That pretty much has to be how it works, the post-Worfed clone shows up while his predecessor's body is still cooling so they must have some kind of  fast learning machine to get fresh Vorta up to speed and ready to pick up where the last clone left off.
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I mean back in TOS they got Uhura from functional infant to exactly how she was before in like a week so by the 24th century with a species that's been genetically engineered to be easily cloneable I've gotta assume that a few hours to get it mostly right is trivial.
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DuhSal posted:I have a question about the Weyouns in DS9. They're all clones but how do they transfer the new memories and experiences that the previous Weyoun makes into the fresh Weyoun? After a Weyoun dies the next Weyoun will talk and reference things the previous Weyoun did or talked about with other people as if he were the previous Weyoun. Do they explain this? I may have missed it or am too dumb to see the obvious. Remember that old rpg named Paranoia? Where if you die your clone just sort of shows up but with a different number after his name? Like that.
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I wonder if the Vorta are so blasé as a mechanic to keep the traumas of repeated violent deaths from destroying their minds. Perhaps early strains of Vorta were very broken after a death or two, and thus were engineered to not really give a huge poo poo about anything outside of work.
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Thank you Jeff Bezos. You truly are the son of God!
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Cessna posted:Remember that old rpg named Paranoia? Where if you die your clone just sort of shows up but with a different number after his name? Old? OLD?! I'll have you know I just ran a game over the weekend! When it's always the Year 214 of Our Computer, you can never grow old, Citizen.
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Tighclops posted:I don't play it but my understanding is that Star Trek Online basically did this Star Trek Online had a storyline about quantum original Harry Kim, they are madmen
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Multiplicity except it's 4 increasingly dumb carbon-copied Weyouns
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corn in the bible posted:Star Trek Online had a storyline about quantum original Harry Kim, they are madmen And later in the admiralty system you get the quantum duplicate Harry Kim and his ship as a minion to boss around. It's a good minion, too.  And yes, STO did invent a STD-era descendant of Shran also played by Jeffrey Combs, who gets tossed forward into the 25th century with you as an STD captain. https://i.imgur.com/UI61xuh.mp4
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Ben Nerevarine posted:Multiplicity except it's 4 increasingly dumb carbon-copied Weyouns Like dubbing a video cassette over and over. Weyoun 27 staggers into the room, drooling on himself and sobbing at random.
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