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Oct 16, 2018 13:42
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Yeah I’m not reading all those words about 40k
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Oct 16, 2018 15:49
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Wrong thread
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Oct 16, 2018 15:52
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When's Sanguinius out?
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Oct 16, 2018 19:15
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If only 30k tanks could defend themselves in melee to mitigate their 1d3 shot battlecannons
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Oct 16, 2018 19:23
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Ok so I've got offers from goons for the Calth box, and soon someone with 3x Prospero boxes worth of Marines, a few HQs and a Dreadnought. I'm just gonna grab the best deal likely, but all things equal, is there any actual difference between Mk 3 and 4 armor? My plan is likelt Salamanders bc I already plan to make them as a 40k army, I have Bray'arth, Vulkan is extremely badass and those Firedrakes make me tingly. My alternate option would be Imperial Fists since I have an airbrush and would like to use it more, but one of the few locals I know who plays already runs them, and his poo poo looks really really good.
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Oct 16, 2018 21:20
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TheBigAristotle posted:I'm just gonna grab the best deal likely, but all things equal, is there any actual difference between Mk 3 and 4 armor? Purely cosmetic. If you want to be really grognardy about it, some Legions favored certain MKs over others, but no one else will likely care.
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Oct 16, 2018 21:26
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That's what I figured. Now I need to decide which I like more. If it was Fists it'd be Mk III. Mk 4s seem more ... Lizardy YES I KNOW SALAMANDERS ARE AMPHIBIANS!!!!
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Oct 16, 2018 21:32
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Fists were one of the first loyalist legions to have a lot of MK4. Before Isstvan, Horus made sure his legions got most of it. When the Heresy broke out, a lot of Fists went to Mars to fight in the Schism and helped themselves to stockpiles of MK4.
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Oct 16, 2018 21:37
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TheBigAristotle posted:That's what I figured. Now I need to decide which I like more. Also keep in mind that while different legions have different preferences in tactics and whatever, there were so many marines in each that everyone used pretty much everything so you don’t really need to justify using whatever models you want (unless you’re just putting down regular 40k marines, that’s lame)
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Oct 16, 2018 21:37
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In the fluff MK3 was considered to be 'void hardened' and a few units do get rules for that, but it's no longer tied to MK3
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Oct 16, 2018 22:06
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MkIII works great for Salamanders. Their thing is all about getting up close and personal to torch and hammer fools and that's basically what MkIII is built for. MkIV totally works too; every legion had everything to a certain degree so there's no need to limit yourself to specific armor types unless you want to. The Salamanders' fancy hat set even has a MkIII/MkIV split. I typically keep to a certain armor mark within a squad, but there's nothing saying you have to.
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Oct 16, 2018 22:57
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:Also keep in mind that while different legions have different preferences in tactics and whatever, there were so many marines in each that everyone used pretty much everything so you don’t really need to justify using whatever models you want (unless you’re just putting down regular 40k marines, that’s lame) No I don't really have many regular marines, I have Deathwatch and Imperial Fists that's made of some truly awful tac marines I painted when I first got back in. And I wouldn't do that anyway, the 30k models have a good look IMO
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Oct 16, 2018 23:22
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Ghazk posted:Fists were one of the first loyalist legions to have a lot of MK4. Before Isstvan, Horus made sure his legions got most of it. When the Heresy broke out, a lot of Fists went to Mars to fight in the Schism and helped themselves to stockpiles of MK4. Everyone and their mother in Ultramar walks around in Mk4 plate. Mainly because they manufactured their own.
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Oct 17, 2018 02:00
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TheBigAristotle posted:And I wouldn't do that anyway, the 30k models have a good look IMO We like this opinion. Now, tell us how you feel about templates...
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Oct 17, 2018 02:04
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Broken Record Talk posted:We like this opinion. 1. What is your favorite mark of armor? 2. How do you feel about templates? 3. What is the Worst Legion?
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Oct 17, 2018 02:19
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Safety Factor posted:Answer for me these questions three! 1. MkIV 2. I need more templates in my life 3. Post-Heresy “Loyalist” Dark Angels, closely followed by Heresy era Dark Angels Did I do that right?
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Oct 17, 2018 02:26
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serious gaylord posted:When's Sanguinius out? Moments before the game is as dead as he is. 
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Oct 17, 2018 02:27
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Broken Record Talk posted:1. MkIV Broken Record Talk posted:3. Post-Heresy “Loyalist” Dark Angels, closely followed by Heresy era Dark Angels Again, I'm very sorry about this, but I'm going to need you to uninstall Slack on all of your devices. An agent will be by shortly to ensure your compliance in these matters. Additionally, they will dispose of your "collection" in the appropriate manner. Your cooperation is expected and any deviation is punishable by REDACTED under Ham Code 30005-14.
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Oct 17, 2018 02:57
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1: Mk 4 2: they own 3: ultramarines lol
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Oct 17, 2018 04:06
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The Iron Hands are the worst.
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Oct 17, 2018 04:15
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I'm leaning strongly towards Salamanders bc they're nice bois but also very crispy
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Oct 17, 2018 04:23
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Sallies are cool. Those terminators own dude
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Oct 17, 2018 04:29
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This is what we did the survey for folks. Forum approved legion opinions:  
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Oct 17, 2018 04:37
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tallkidwithglasses posted:This is what we did the survey for folks. You know, this is getting pretty close to spreadsheet territory, m’lord. mi yag
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Oct 17, 2018 04:46
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Broken Record Talk posted:You know, this is getting pretty close to spreadsheet territory, m’lord. No, the spreadsheets are forum poster dossiers. These are visualizations.
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Oct 17, 2018 04:50
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What does the second chart say exactly
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Oct 17, 2018 04:57
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TheBigAristotle posted:What does the second chart say exactly It’s a little backwards because I am incredibly lazy, but it’s a table on how the ranking went per legion, where “minimum” is the highest ranking score that particular legion got, “maximum” is bottom, the next two columns are what they say they are, and the last column is variance of the legions dataset from its mean.
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Oct 17, 2018 05:19
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Everyone knows the actual Worst Legion is the Thousand Space Bearers
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Oct 17, 2018 06:44
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adamantium|wang posted:Everyone knows the actual Worst Legion is the Thousand Space Bearers You misspelled Space Wolves.
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Oct 17, 2018 06:51
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The worst legion are ultramarines because they're responsible for 8th edition. Prove me wrong
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Oct 17, 2018 07:21
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Best legion aren't a legion, they're an Auxilia.
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Oct 17, 2018 07:30
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Me, naive idiot: oh, look, many posts in the 30K thread, surely TS+ is out!
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Oct 17, 2018 07:57
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JcDent posted:Me, naive idiot: oh, look, many posts in the 30K thread, surely TS+ is out! It is!
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Oct 17, 2018 14:20
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Broken Record Talk posted:It is! Where's the link?
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Oct 17, 2018 14:29
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I don't have any books yet so tell me: Can I use Bray'arth Ashmantle or my chaplain dread in a 30k Salamanders list?
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Oct 17, 2018 14:36
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Yeah but they both become nobodies
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Oct 17, 2018 14:48
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TheBigAristotle posted:Can I use Bray'arth Ashmantle Rename it to Cassian Dracos and you're fine.
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Oct 17, 2018 15:01
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TheBigAristotle posted:I don't have any books yet so tell me: They don’t have special rules or anything but you can absolutely take them as regular dreadnoughts. I use the chaplain dread in my Dark Angels when I play Ironwing.
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Oct 17, 2018 15:16
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TheBigAristotle posted:I don't have any books yet so tell me: Absolutely. Ashmantle is wearing the same armour that Cassian Dracos (a very cool Salamanders Dreadnought character with rules) first received from Vulkan during the 30k era, and a Chaplain Dread can just be used as a fancy Castraferrum Dreadnought; I have a whole Talon of them in my Sons of Horus army.
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