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Drunk Nerds posted:Just spitballing here, I bet it has an evolutionary component related to women doing more of the childcare  must be right
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HelloIAmYourHeart posted:Anybody who wants to know more about running a crematorium should read Caitlin Doughty's "Smoke Gets In Your Eyes" which is an excellent book and goes into a lot of detail. She also does "Ask a Mortician" on Youtube and probably has some videos about it as well. Ask a Mortician is a pro click.
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ewe2 posted:I think one of the reasons the Knight case keeps resonating is the mystery inside her head. It could well be that she is an unconscious sexual manipulator from a violent background but isn't that all guesswork still? All the sources of the story I've found all seem equally baffled. I can't find the source right now, but I remember reading about how a psychiatrist who interviewed her came away commenting on how little inner life she had, and that she had little to no introspection on her own activities and operated on pure instinct to a shocking degree. Now this, coupled with her illiteracy and inability to carry on conversation would suggest that maybe she had some kind of mental disability, but she was reported to be quite a skilled worker, and was known to stew for weeks or even months plotting elaborate, and reportedly quite effective, revenge for real and imagined slights. Her actual level of intelligence is, obviously, a matter of some debate. The impression that I got is of someone who lived in a constant state of high anxiety and stress from a very early age. That anxiety would manifest as explosive anger at the slightest conflict, which she learned very early could be diffused with sex. I don't think that she consciously manipulated, but instead that she was absolutely driven by a mind full of anxiety that literally propelled her through life at such a pace that introspection was impossible. But yeah, of all the unnerving people I have read about, her mind is one of the most fascinating.
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Not really related other than in an adjacent to evolutionary psychology way but apparently male gorillas love to babysit children no matter whose they are and also lady gorillas find that attractive in a mate. I learned that today
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fruit BOO!ts posted:Not really related other than in an adjacent to evolutionary psychology way but apparently male gorillas love to babysit children no matter whose they are and also lady gorillas find that attractive in a mate. Does the gorilla still have you? Do you need someone to come get you?
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The whole woman watching kids thing is dumb as all hell because literally everyone else also watches them. Slightly older kids, elders, injured men, men who didnt go out hunting, other women if the mother is busy, etc etc etc. And watching is often as simple as "Make sure child does not wander off and get eaten".
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Telsa Cola posted:The whole woman watching kids thing is dumb as all hell because literally everyone else also watches them. Slightly older kids, elders, injured men, men who didnt go out hunting, other women if the mother is busy, etc etc etc. Oh I didn't know that. I did some research right now, and learned that prehistoric human were a lot more communal about a lot of stuff like this. Okay, I see how what I said doesn't make any sense Drunk Nerds has a new favorite as of 05:16 on Oct 17, 2018 |
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Oct 17, 2018 05:11
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Well to get this back on track maybe, I just finished Dr. Death and all the interviews and  how in the gently caress did that take so long
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Pirate Radar posted:Does the gorilla still have you? Do you need someone to come get you? Lmao I wish I had done that on purpose.
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fruit BOO!ts posted:Not really related other than in an adjacent to evolutionary psychology way but apparently male gorillas love to babysit children no matter whose they are and also lady gorillas find that attractive in a mate. There's a tribe of chimps that, I forget how or why, but all the super aggressive males died out (in a war or just through being hyper aggresive with each other), which left all the less aggressive males there and it literally entirely changed how it interacted with itself and others. Became a lot more social, less murderous, more cooperative in child rearing and foraging, and the tribe will cut out and punish any member that tries to bring back the super aggressiveness. It's a really neat story, I should find it again
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Drunk Nerds posted:Oh I didn't know that. I did some research right now, and learned that prehistoric human were a lot more communal about a lot of stuff like this. Okay, I see how what I said doesn't make any sense No worries, I apologize for being aggressive about it. It happens in modern day as well, just so you know.
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Tashilicious posted:There's a tribe of chimps that, I forget how or why, but all the super aggressive males died out (in a war or just through being hyper aggresive with each other), which left all the less aggressive males there and it literally entirely changed how it interacted with itself and others. Became a lot more social, less murderous, more cooperative in child rearing and foraging, and the tribe will cut out and punish any member that tries to bring back the super aggressiveness. this sounds neat
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I was wrong, it was Baboons https://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/13/science/no-time-for-bullies-baboons-retool-their-culture.html quote:Among a troop of savanna baboons in Kenya, a terrible outbreak of tuberculosis 20 years ago selectively killed off the biggest, nastiest and most despotic males, setting the stage for a social and behavioral transformation unlike any seen in this notoriously truculent primate.
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There's a phrase "it takes a village to raise a child" which is claimed to originate from Africa, the point being that it takes an environment not simply a parent to mold a person.
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“It takes a child to raise a village” 70 foot tall toddler tasked with constructing gigantic Lincoln Log village to house refugees from the great floods
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fruit BOO!ts posted:Not really related other than in an adjacent to evolutionary psychology way but apparently male gorillas love to babysit children no matter whose they are and also lady gorillas find that attractive in a mate. I have bad news: while most of this translates to human women, human women are not satisfied with a three inch dick.
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Aesop Poprock posted:“It takes a child to raise a village” 70 foot tall toddler tasked with constructing gigantic Lincoln Log village to house refugees from the great floods Wasn't this a story from Book of Blood volume 1 by clive barker
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Tashilicious posted:Wasn't this a story from Book of Blood volume 1 by clive barker that book owns
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Tashilicious posted:Wasn't this a story from Book of Blood volume 1 by clive barker If it is I want to read it
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I thought the story in books of blood was 2 villages strapping all their sturdiest villagers together to build 2 giant villagers to fight against each other every 15 years. drat that story was cool.
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Untrustable posted:I thought the story in books of blood was 2 villages strapping all their sturdiest villagers together to build 2 giant villagers to fight against each other every 15 years. drat that story was cool. IIRC it was basically every village, *and the villages themselves*, in a giant naked-person-strapped-with-wood-and-tarps mecha fight in the middle of the hills. EDIT: every villageR Tashilicious has a new favorite as of 10:02 on Oct 17, 2018 |
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Oct 17, 2018 09:57
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Ok that’s way cooler than my idea
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Oct 17, 2018 10:01
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That needs an  warning, by the way.
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Oct 17, 2018 10:02
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Jedit posted:That needs an I dunno how many workplaces play your youtube videos at full volume for everyone to hear NMS though probably. Clive Barker has a very vivid descriptive talent. I still remember reading Midnight Meat Train. gently caress.
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Pretty much every other Clive Barker story is "There was an ancient evil, so we all hosed.".
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Tashilicious posted:I was wrong, it was Baboons He is good and cool.
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Tashilicious posted:I was wrong, it was Baboons This is fascinating btw, thank you for this
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Yeah. It's amazing when an animal we consider to be beneath us in every way somehow manages to solve toxic masculinity and violence culture. I would like to think we could do the same with our own, and rape culture, without requiring the literal extermination of the manly men running it. It's a nice dream.
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Tashilicious posted:Yeah. It's amazing when an animal we consider to be beneath us in every way somehow manages to solve toxic masculinity and violence culture. 
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Tashilicious posted:Yeah. It's amazing when an animal we consider to be beneath us in every way somehow manages to solve toxic masculinity and violence culture. Source your terrifying quotes please.
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Sarcopenia posted:In Robert Sapolsky's book he actually talks about being extremely horrified when he witnesses a male baboon rape a female. He's not a Republican then, or he'd vote for it.
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also back to apes bonobos are more genetically similar to us than chimps but nobody points to them instead and throws their hands up saying "its just in our biological nature"
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quite stretched out posted:also back to apes bonobos are more genetically similar to us than chimps but nobody points to them instead and throws their hands up saying "its just in our biological nature" What? Last I read, bonobos and chimps split after humans had already split off.
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I thought there was also a troop of chimps that kind of did the same thing. Like they had a leader that was a bully and they all turned on him and the new leader was the laid back cool chimp that groomed everybody. At work or I'd look for it. Either way, I think humans have already bred the really really bad bullies out and we're working on the rest. Obviously there's still problems, but we're getting more and more empathetic as time goes on.
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quite stretched out posted:also back to apes bonobos are more genetically similar to us than chimps but nobody points to them instead and throws their hands up saying "its just in our biological nature" Equally genetically similar. But, yeah, all types of social organization are represented in primates. The folks just cherrypick the ones that confirm what they want to be true for humans.One of the best books I have ever read is Baboon Metaphysics by Cheney and Seyfarth. Cheney is a primatologist and Seyfarth, her husband, is a psychologist. While they were out on Cheney's fieldwork, they came up with the idea of adapting human psychology experiments to the baboon population. The results may surprise you! Also, anything by Frans de Waal is 100% worth reading. AlbieQuirky has a new favorite as of 14:30 on Oct 17, 2018 |
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Jedit posted:He's not a Republican then, or he'd vote for it. 
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Jedit posted:I have bad news: while most of this translates to human women, human women are not satisfied with a three inch dick. Thank you for sharing your struggles, friend
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Tashilicious posted:I was wrong, it was Baboons Neat, let's try it.
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Solice Kirsk posted:
Ahhahahahaha... Oh, man. Good stuff.
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