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Victory Position posted:some folks go through a second puberty Under conditions that necessitate degrowth you only get one puberty, and you still can't have it.
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thanks obama (the hits were in 2015) https://twitter.com/democracynow/status/1052547185513062400
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The Soviet Economy After the New Economic Policy this was an interesting read. i'm not as familiar as i'd like to be with soviet history, and this seemed like a pretty broad overview of the nep's successes and failures
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:thanks obama (the hits were in 2015) War has changed
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Serf posted:The Soviet Economy After the New Economic Policy quote:However, they were unquestionably over-optimistic about their prospects for this transformation. Lenin came to his own over-exuberant predictions about the simplicity with which the proletariat would rise to command their economic destiny in The State and Revolution. lmao. anyways, really good article. thanks for sharing. I mean, it's all CIA revisionist lies, but it's good.
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this is the important part of the article, and it tracks with everything I've read from communist economists (especially the polish ones, cause they were the smartest) who critiqued gosplan.quote:For advanced consumer societies however, the question is still more open, but there is reason to be hopeful. The kinds of planning which would be responsive to consumer needs, while also being capable of managing millions of commodities, were far beyond the capabilities developed in the USSR. Such sophistication would be necessary to keep Western levels of development. Yet, computers have advanced to levels unimaginable to the Soviets in the 1960s, and are literally 100s of billions of times more powerful. Such calculation problems are no longer insurmountable.
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so much for the end of history lol https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/1052575565671223297 could use that video with the rate of the tendency to profit to fall over time interspersed over marx's face and the inception soundtrack if anyone knows where it is
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Karl Barks posted:lmao. legit curious as to what parts are lies. i'm trying to learn more about soviet history
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You know I've noticed that most liberals I know are disgusted by the sort of police stuff that is so much more in the discourse today (arbitrary murders, rapes, etc), but if you bring up the possibility of retaliatory violence or justice not dictated by the procedures of the capitalist penal system as a whole in a theoretical sense - not like "hey go get a gun and do a crime" but more like "the US needs a second round of Nuremberg trials". When the relative moral legitimacy of revolutionary violence comes up in conversation with libs, it always precipitates an immediate hemming and hawing or it is reflexively dismissed as a childish fantasy. I was reading some Liebknecht the other day, dude who wrote some interesting books including Marxism and Philosophy which is a pretty fascinating revision of orthodox Marxist ideas in the context of revolutionary Germany and the Weimar Republic and his emphasis on the importance of working at a confluence of praxis and theory got me thinking about this stuff. There is, imo, a pretty coherent leftist theoretical structure for the wholesale reconstruction of police and other elements of the state that intervene directly in the lives of citizens that more or less emphasize positivist ideas re: architecture, disbursement of social services, licensing, etc etc and I think are all well and good. The thing is, though, like the majority of people with whom I interact that aren't edgy Stalinists don't have any consistent, reasonably applicable or productive ideas for whatever processes are required to render macrogovernmental institutions malleable enough for the kind of necessary reform. Most theorists I've read seem to agree that the precondition for that kind of thing is revolutionary violence, though the more contemporary (like post-1960s New Left type thinkers) are much less optimistic about that possibility, and I've read a lot about the very specific contingency of alienation these guys think is necessary to precipitate that revolutionary action. I guess what I'm getting at here is I don't really have a consistent thing to slot into the "what do you do before reforming an enormous governmental entity" other than "guillotines". I think the notion that reform in the contemporary US requires a much more vigorous commitment to a program analogous to denazification after WWII, which largely failed because of permissiveness re: former Nazis being allowed to continue participating in government in order to counter Soviet influence. That being said, whenever most non-nutty Stalinist/normal generic leftist/liberals I know talk about stuff and the subject of the potential legitimacy of revolutionary violence is raised, most people are like, at best, super uncomfortable. I guess what I'm wondering am I totally theoretically wrong in my interpretation? I mean, there are great socialist thinkers like E.P. Thompson who are principally humanist and thus largely pacificist and I respect their scruples, but I don't think even Thompson has roundly disavowed the theoretical value of direct action I should note a lot of this comes from my former thesis director who is an esteemed historian of Nazi Germany, the Holocaust, and left-wing philosophy in particular and we largely agree on these things, though he tends to think that collective violence as a premeditated defense against fascism is basically always correct Frog Act fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Oct 17, 2018 |
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:so much for the end of history lol i keep it in my favorites list https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xyqDUl9jkA
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Serf posted:legit curious as to what parts are lies. i'm trying to learn more about soviet history if a source isn't 100% laudatory of the USSR someone will almost always tell you it's a cia lie. the hardest part is that it frequently will be
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:so much for the end of history lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xyqDUl9jkA E: poo poo beaten, watch it twice
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GorgonLiker posted:if a source isn't 100% laudatory of the USSR someone will almost always tell you it's a cia lie. the hardest part is that it frequently will be yeah i mean, it's not a 100% hard and fast rule but damned if it don't work out like 80% of the time.
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ShriekingMarxist posted:yeah i mean, it's not a 100% hard and fast rule but damned if it don't work out like 80% of the time. it can be very very frustrating when you bring up that 20% in good faith and people sneer at you like you're a lapdog for the feds though
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GorgonLiker posted:it can be very very frustrating when you bring up that 20% in good faith and people sneer at you like you're a lapdog for the feds though that's because then you're in a second 80/20 situation
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GorgonLiker posted:it can be very very frustrating when you bring up that 20% in good faith and people sneer at you like you're a lapdog for the feds though cop spotted
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THS posted:cop spotted
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https://twitter.com/curaffairs/status/1052662488397795329
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he is such a loving dweeb
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GalacticAcid posted:he is such a loving dweeb Engaging chuds in a neutral venue is the right way to do it though.
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Serf posted:legit curious as to what parts are lies. i'm trying to learn more about soviet history I was kidding, the first pArt was earnest. Agree with basically everything in that
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Nathan Robinson is a lot like Stalin, not the hero we wanted, etc
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GalacticAcid posted:he is such a loving dweeb Nothus posted:He's a bowtie dipshit but he's our bowtie dipshit.
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Serf posted:legit curious as to what parts are lies. i'm trying to learn more about soviet history he's making a joke but i'm glad it honeypotted a dumbass or two
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The Virgin AOC and the Chad Lee Carter https://twitter.com/carterforva/status/1052692492813049857?s=19
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Based Ron Weasley
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Lmfao lee Carter ftw
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:so much for the end of history lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ff6SgU8yvv8
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:The Virgin AOC and the Chad Lee Carter Absolute
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Serf posted:The Soviet Economy After the New Economic Policy this may have been ghost written by stephen holmes, but it was an interesting read. thanks for posting it.
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It may be true that everything else in life requires some study or analysis or practice or jsu discussion with people familiar with the subject to get good at, but politics is different because I am pretty sure I'm already right.
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Serf posted:yeah, just vote 'em out. that's all it takes Hey i wasn't agreeing with him, just pointing out CNN being even more dishonest than usual.
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# ? Oct 18, 2018 03:26 |
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im getting a lot of just straight up anti-semetic videos as suggestions on Youtube ever since I subbed to some accounts like Shaun and three arrows. really lovely algorithm
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HorrificExistence posted:im getting a lot of just straight up anti-semetic videos as suggestions on Youtube ever since I subbed to some accounts like Shaun and three arrows. really lovely algorithm its started suggesting anti-communist songs after I was getting down on old labor songs trying to find one that was catchy but also didn't sound like the 80 year old folk song it was
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Larry Parrish posted:its started suggesting anti-communist songs after I was getting down on old labor songs trying to find one that was catchy but also didn't sound like the 80 year old folk song it was american left wing music is really bad tbh*. like even the internationale sounds really horrible in english. * - punk excluded
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Graphic posted:american left wing music is really bad tbh*. like even the internationale sounds really horrible in english. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbxUSsFXYo4
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Graphic posted:american left wing music is really bad tbh*. like even the internationale sounds really horrible in english. I like the Varshavianka translation although the grammar is pretty interesting to keep the rhyme
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Graphic posted:american left wing music is really bad tbh*. like even the internationale sounds really horrible in english. i was gonna say https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyN6cUkhbz4
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Graphic posted:american left wing music is really bad tbh*. like even the internationale sounds really horrible in english. uhhhhhhh what the gently caress what the FUC Graphic posted:* - punk excluded whew okay yeah. there are some rappers doing good work too but yes, agreedo
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Graphic posted:american left wing music is really bad tbh*. like even the internationale sounds really horrible in english. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiDga-2aTmI
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