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prefect posted:It's probably weird of me to like this, but I love the Alan Davis "inside of the lips is just flat white, where the teeth are" thing. It always looks better than individual teeth. Not at all. Like I mentioned previously, the big beaming smiles are one of my favourite things he does:  One foible of his - and it's not really something I'm criticising in particular - which has increased in recent years is the way he always draws surprised characters leaning back slightly, possibly with one hand raised but almost always with their two middle fingers together and their index and little fingers spread out. You can see a prototypical version with Dr Mid-Nite on this cover:  I'll see if I can find any more recent examples. Wheat Loaf fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Oct 15, 2018 |
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Alan Davis is the best. Holy hell is he just wonderful. 
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Oct 15, 2018 21:40
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The hidden gem is Reed's headshot at top right that makes him look like he just showed up totally hungover
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site posted:The hidden gem is Reed's headshot at top right that makes him look like he just showed up totally hungover Dale Eaglesham is an excellent artist in his own way Site!
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Oct 15, 2018 21:58
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Rhyno posted:Dale Eaglesham is an excellent artist in his own way Site! Indeed. 
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Oct 15, 2018 22:03
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I didnt say the rest was bad, just that that was funny!
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Oct 15, 2018 22:08
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Rhyno posted:Dale Eaglesham is an excellent artist in his own way Site! The worst thing about Eaglesham isn't his art, it's his name. How do you pronounce it? Is it Eagle-sham or Eagles-ham? I demand answers, damnit.
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Madkal posted:The worst thing about Eaglesham isn't his art, it's his name. How do you pronounce it? Is it Eagle-sham or Eagles-ham? I demand answers, damnit. It's pronounced Wooster.
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Madkal posted:The worst thing about Eaglesham isn't his art, it's his name. How do you pronounce it? Is it Eagle-sham or Eagles-ham? I demand answers, damnit. Ee-glesham. Imagine that the a is an apostrophe.
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X-O posted:It does look better for sure. We were taught in art school not to draw what you can't see and learning that made a big difference in my illustrations. A lot of bad or more primitive art is people drawing what they know is there but that a person normally can't really notice or even see. Like the way kids draw individual hairs on someone's head, triangles for noses, footballs for eyes, outlining lips, rendering individual leaves on trees and stuff like that. Individual teeth fall into this category. Hopefully I'm explaining that properly.
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Rhyno posted:Alan Davis is the best. Holy hell is he just wonderful. He's a huge and obvious influence on Bryan Hitch, too. Which is no bad thing, because Hitch is a fine artist in his own right. Davis does do teeth, though, or used to. 
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Jedit posted:He's a huge and obvious influence on Bryan Hitch, too. Which is no bad thing, because Hitch is a fine artist in his own right. I think showing teeth in that context is okay though, since clenching teeth is a part of the specific emotion that you're supposed to read on his face, and that wouldn't be properly conveyed if it was just flat white
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Yeah that it's a choice and not a stylistic tic (e.g. liefeld et al)
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Jedit posted:He's a huge and obvious influence on Bryan Hitch, too. Which is no bad thing, because Hitch is a fine artist in his own right. He's not drawing a line around every tooth though so this works fine. It's when you draw them like a window screen that there's a problem.
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BiggerBoat posted:He's not drawing a line around every tooth though so this works fine. It's when you draw them like a window screen that there's a problem. You might have a problem with A Crooked World, then. Individual teeth galore in that one.
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BiggerBoat posted:He's not drawing a line around every tooth though so this works fine. It's when you draw them like a window screen that there's a problem. I think you can probably do individual teeth with color that don’t trigger the “something is wrong here!” brain siren, but if you’re doing it in the pencils it’s going to be too noticeable unless you’re doing a hyper close up or something.
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The Fantastic Four should be happy, they're having big science adventures!
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Who would've been drawing X-Men comics in the late 90s, around the time Seagle and Kelly would've been writing it? They had a style that I'd say was sort of partway between Davis and Joe Mad and it's what I think of when I think "late 90s X-Men" (when Marvel was trying to make all their comics covers look like glossy magazines), but I can't conjure up a name in my mind.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Who would've been drawing X-Men comics in the late 90s, around the time Seagle and Kelly would've been writing it?
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https://twitter.com/thealexrossart/status/1052277895324946432 Wow
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Edge & Christian posted:I believe the "primary" artist on Kelly's run was Carlos Pacheco and for Seagle it was Chris Bachalo? Both of them have gone through a number of styles over the years. I'm pretty sure they did the lion's share of that run's covers if nothing else. Hmm. Pacheco and Bachalo sound about right. Did Dodson do anything on the X-books at that time?
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Wheat Loaf posted:Hmm. Pacheco and Bachalo sound about right. Did Dodson do anything on the X-books at that time? That was around the time he was drawing Generation X, if memory serves.
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Must be what I'm thinking of. Edit: Whenever I look at these covers, I can't help but think "glossy magazine". I don't mean that in a bad way, though. I like he    I think it's probably because of all the text on it. Not even just Generation X, of course. Other books did similar things.   Of course that's just my favourite style - sort of like the really high-end opening theme animation from an otherwise crap-looking 80s cartoon. Wheat Loaf fucked around with this message at 09:04 on Oct 18, 2018 |
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Cadet Handsome Squidward.
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Why is Hulk contorted into a swastika?
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Is Aatrek designing Star Trek comic covers now?
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Are bad feet shooting fish in a barrel? If so, apologies. From Infinity War: I know you might focus on Drax there, but drag your eyes over to Moondragon, who appears to be walking on pencil tips.  And I always crack up when I come across this BabyCable on the ad page: 
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We've had some good Alan Davis love over the last few pages. Let's check in on Excalibur #59 and #60, to see what happens when he takes a break! The results are... yikes. T'Challa, what happened to your hand? And Brian Braddock, what happened to your... face? And posture? But that's nothing compared to Lizard Person Kitty Pryde:  Also note that Super-Genius Tony Stark doesn't know the difference between "ephemeral" and "immaterial." (Or is this not Tony Stark? I don't really know early 90s Avengers.) I think it's fair to describe the art on these two issues as "less than confident." Fortunately, Davis comes roaring back in #61 with like three full-page panels that are purely an excuse to show Phoenix fighting Galactus.    I love the repeated "meanwhiles". Like, Davis is completely aware that this isn't particularly advancing the plot. (I'm not sure if I posted the panels in the correct order; it's not like it matters.) He just really wants to draw Phoenix fighting Galactus; and who can blame him?
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Thor #6, you know who it is
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I was so focused on the Wall of Monsters, I actually didn't notice burning spectral Wolverine there for a second
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Zombie Dachshund posted:
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zoux posted:Thor #6, you know who it is 
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Senior Woodchuck posted:Pretty sure it's Rhodey. yeah, pretty sure you’re right. Anyway, I’m also pretty sure it was the writer who didn’t know what “ephemeral” meant.
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Phy posted:I was so focused on the Wall of Monsters, I actually didn't notice burning spectral Wolverine there for a second Hot claws taken to its logical conclusion.
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"Wolverine's Hot Claws" sounds like a cross-promotion with Cheetos from 1993.
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Zombie Dachshund posted:I think it's fair to describe the art on these two issues as "less than confident." Fortunately, Davis comes roaring back in #61 with like three full-page panels that are purely an excuse to show Phoenix fighting Galactus. I did an Excalibur re-read a couple of months ago, and that was a breath of fresh air. More writers should include pages in the script that are just "Alan, gently caress the plot, draw what you like" and then just never explain it.
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DigitalRaven posted:I did an Excalibur re-read a couple of months ago, and that was a breath of fresh air. Just to confirm: Excalibur #50 is still one of the all-time great single issues?
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