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Zikan
Feb 29, 2004


We live in the shittiest possible cyberpunk dystopia.

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Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy
LOL, Liz did herself in.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Paracaidas posted:

Why do charges of inauthenticity, untrustworthiness, corruption, and cynical calculation stick so quickly and durably to some candidates (Hillary, Booker, Warren, Harris)

Because they're liars op

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006

VitalSigns posted:

Because they're liars op

harris doesn't get hammered as hard for lying, but saying that Madam "We Need The Slave Labor, Also I Had No Idea Anyone In My Department Thought We Needed The Slave Labor" is not a fan of cynical calculation is, uh

a stretch

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


Harris gets hammered less for being inauthentic because she is too busy getting hammered for being a cop.

Avirosb
Nov 21, 2016

Everyone makes pisstakes

Zikan posted:

We live in the shittiest possible cyberpunk dystopia.

A Palmer Luckey simulation.

Paracaidas
Sep 24, 2016
Consistently Tedious!
An interesting nugget from today's questionably sourced whispery 'process' Bernie hackery in Politico

quote:

Still, even Sanders supporters who are skeptical of a 2020 run say it’s unclear who, if anyone, could carry the torch. Elizabeth Warren is often discussed, but multiple former Sanders staffers were dubious about her potential campaign after watching her attempt to defuse President Donald Trump's attacks on her past claims of Native American ancestry this week.

My favorite, telling quote of the whole piece?

increasingly nervous establishment man for the seventh time this year posted:

Sanders should just declare victory, they said, content in the knowledge that much of his 2016 platform has been adopted by other ambitious Democrats considering White House bids.

"You, uh, already won. No need to run for anything, really!"

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


the best political writer weighs in:

quote:

I like Elizabeth Warren a lot. She’s probably my second-favorite elected official. It’s only thanks to her that we have the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, the best agency in the U.S. federal government. She is gutsy, smart, and she cares about the economic well-being of ordinary people.

Which is why I am so frustrated that Warren has so badly mishandled this native ancestry issue.

...

In addition to everything else, this just shows horrible political instincts on Warren’s part. A few weeks before a mid-term election, she has handed the Republicans a news cycle, by doubling down on an indefensible claim and needlessly drawing attention to Donald Trump’s rhetoric. She has offended Native Americans and hurt the Democratic Party, and done so completely of her own volition. Looking at 2020 prospects, I have long been worried about Warren’s political skill—after all, she nearly lost an election to a Republican in Massachusetts. But this shows that she will fall right into Trump’s traps, and produce counterproductive own-goals.

Warren has never handled this issue well. It’s still not clear quite what she’s saying: she is a Cherokee, then? She isn’t? But I honestly don’t think someone can run for president and expect to win the Democratic nomination if they are unable to own up to mistakes, and gratuitously offend and ignore Native Americans. I have liked Elizabeth Warren for a long time, but this is a massive political liability. She is wrong on this, she doesn’t seem to know she is wrong, she refuses to apologize, and she continues to make it worse. I don’t know why, instead of suggesting that this is a baseless smear, she can’t just say clearly and definitively that she shouldn’t have spent years publicly touting her Native ancestry. This stupid issue would dominate any contest with Donald Trump. It would never end. It would prevent us from ever actually discussing any serious issues. It would be like the goddamn email scandal all over again. And Warren has shown that she would handle it badly. At this point, I do not see how she can be a serious presidential contender.

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/10/elizabeth-warrens-native-ancestry-response-is-a-complete-disaster

LinYutang
Oct 12, 2016

NEOLIBERAL SHITPOSTER

:siren:
VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO!!!
:siren:
https://twitter.com/politico/status/1052917239861600256

Speaking of Warren's bad instincts:

quote:

Still, even Sanders supporters who are skeptical of a 2020 run say it’s unclear who, if anyone, could carry the torch. Elizabeth Warren is often discussed, but multiple former Sanders staffers were dubious about her potential campaign after watching her attempt to defuse President Donald Trump's attacks on her past claims of Native American ancestry this week.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
e: oh this isn't the succzone

Brony Car
May 22, 2014

by Cyrano4747
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...=nl_most&wpmm=1

The Washington Post gave the media and the GOP 3 Pinnochios for their interpretation of Warren's test. LIZ WINS!

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Brony Car posted:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...=nl_most&wpmm=1

The Washington Post gave the media and the GOP 3 Pinnochios for their interpretation of Warren's test. LIZ WINS!

lol, Christ, what is wrong with these people. How can someone write out that article and be like "mm yes, this is somehow helpful."

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

There is no better foreshadowing for how much "HOW DO YOU DO, FELLOW KIDS?!" horseshit we're going to be getting in 2020.

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Majorian posted:

There is no better foreshadowing for how much "HOW DO YOU DO, FELLOW KIDS?!" horseshit we're going to be getting in 2020.

https://twitter.com/Ocasio2018/status/1051291913272389633

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

I, too, can't tell the difference between the 29-year old and the 49-year old.

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

Majorian posted:

I, too, can't tell the difference between the 29-year old and the 49-year old.

Yeah if she was really trying to get down with the kids she'd be playing pubg or overwatch

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich

mandatory lesbian posted:

Yeah if she was really trying to get down with the kids she'd be playing pubg or overwatch

I honestly cant tell if this is deliberately outdated.

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

Strange how it seems so natural for a 29 year old to connect with other people in their 20s.

Fulchrum posted:

I honestly cant tell if this is deliberately outdated.

Yeah I think they misspelled Fortnite.

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich
Is your argument seriously "nobody older than 30 plays videogames"? You're acting like he's Frank Underwood hawking product placement.

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

Fulchrum posted:

I honestly cant tell if this is deliberately outdated.

Proper getting down with the kids stuff is trying to be hip and cool by interacting with something that is still in memory but being supplanted. League is so old it's practically ancient history. Her post is trying to appeal to other 30 year olds who are the only people still playing lol

Der Waffle Mous
Nov 27, 2009

In the grim future, there is only commerce.
China is probably skewing the metrics a ton but League still has something like 10x the concurrent users of Fortnite.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


DOTA and League are games for hardcore weirdos who dedicate hundreds of hours to learning that poo poo, Fortnite is for middle schoolers. Overwatch is TF2 with anime waifus

The proper socialist game is of course Dwarf Fortress

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

icantfindaname posted:

DOTA and League are games for hardcore weirdos who dedicate hundreds of hours to learning that poo poo, Fortnite is for middle schoolers. Overwatch is TF2 with anime waifus

The proper socialist game is of course Dwarf Fortress

*dwarf throws lever called "FULL SOCIALISM NOW" unless the shing torrents of lava*

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

exploded mummy posted:

*dwarf throws lever called "FULL SOCIALISM NOW" unless the shing torrents of lava*

You jest, but literally

quote:

Previously:

+@||++@+@@@@@

Unrest smoldered in the fortress like brush fire waiting to burst
forth and consume the wood. The whiskey had run dry after the brewers
had thrown a tantrum and demolished the still. The miners and smiths
continued to toil, their throats dry. Mushroom farmers picked the
crops under the watchful eyes of crossbow wielding marksdwarves, their
work deemed too vital to be abandoned. Dwarves passed one another in
the meeting hall, glancing briefly at each other. No one knew who
would be the first to snap.

Deep in the mountain, in an underground statue garden, a group of
young dwarves sat in a circle around their mentor. Malgon the
Philosopher was known throughout the Mountain Homes as a dwarf of
great wisdom. He stood in a pose of tranquility, keeping one eye on
the anxious students as he gave his lecture. They could all sense the
coming riot. Some spoke of revolution.

"Master," asked a ugly little dwarf in a gray cap, "is this unrest
merely a symptom of the flaws inherent in the system?"

"Must I remind you, Tafner," said Malgon "it is times like these, when
we must look inward. Is not the unrest merely a reflection of our
troubled minds? Meditate on this."

Tafner grumbled to himself, what did this old man know? Guards
spilled into the garden, throwing the students against the wall.

"Malgon," said the captain, "you will report to the Baron at once."

The philosopher struggled in vain as he was led from the room. Tafner
smiled as the guards dragged him away. Deep they traveled, arriving
finally at the baron's suite, a grim, austere room with no decoration,
save a tattered banner of the Mountain Homers stretched across the
wall. The Baron stared at the flag, draped in a tattered purple cape.
He slowly turned to address the philosopher.

"I have brought you here," said the Baron, "for the good of the fortress."

Malgon struggled to maintain the pose of total wisdom.

"The squalid peasants are ready to rip this mountain apart," the Baron
continued. "You will teach them that to obey is to live, or I shall
do so!"

The Baron drew his sword, letting the scabbard fall noisily to the
floor for added effect. A bead of sweat fell slowly across Malgon's
motionless face. A guard burst into room, panting with fear.

"Lord, the time has come!" he shouted.

The philosopher was lead at sword point to a balcony overlooking a sea
of angry faces, filling the meeting hall to near bursting. The Baron
and his guards ducked as a shower of rotten mushrooms pelted the
platform. Malgon the Philosopher let the plump helmets bounce off his
robe, clearing his throat.

"Friends," he said, "you fear the tidings of tomorrow, but you must
remember, tomorrow is always a day away."

"Charlatan!" screamed a voice from below. "You will face the wrath of
the working class!"

Malgon searched the crowd and found the angry face of his student,
Tafner. He smiled, his student had learned well. The Battle of the
Philosophers had begun.

Toady is down with the movement

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

Majorian posted:

I, too, can't tell the difference between the 29-year old and the 49-year old.

Pac-Man came out in arcades when Booker was 11, not everything is cynical pandering.


Championship Edition 2 is trash though.

Big Mad Drongo
Nov 10, 2006

icantfindaname posted:

DOTA and League are games for hardcore weirdos who dedicate hundreds of hours to learning that poo poo, Fortnite is for middle schoolers. Overwatch is TF2 with anime waifus

The proper socialist game is of course Dwarf Fortress

The proper socialist game is Night in the Woods, which was made by active DSA members and features (endgame spoiler-ish) capitalism as a monster eating a hole through reality, with rich old men sacrificing poor youths to the beast. Also has a great side-story where you read about the history of local union members rising up against their corporate masters in a brutal and awesome way.

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


I miss TF2. That game has sucked poo poo ever since they added different weapons.

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord

The Kingfish posted:

I miss TF2. That game has sucked poo poo ever since they added different weapons.

That was the first patch: https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Item_timeline#Initial_Game_Release

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

the engineer patch was where the game went off a cliff

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer
AOC being a bad League player is the most relatable thing to me and I’m extremely excited to vote for her for president in a few cycles. :3:

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/briebriejoy/status/1053170039787061248

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer
Bernie is doing a lot of rallies actually right now, he’s gonna be in Wisconsin on Monday.

Also Barbara Lee as VP is probably the strongest move Bernie could make and I would stan the gently caress out of him.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPYvxtmOgto

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.
Kamala's pushing a tax bill right now that isn't going to go anywhere but it notably does have Universal Basic Income Lite in it, which is pretty interesting from a person who's obviously planning on running.

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

Lightning Knight posted:

Bernie is doing a lot of rallies actually right now, he’s gonna be in Wisconsin on Monday.

Also Barbara Lee as VP is probably the strongest move Bernie could make and I would stan the gently caress out of him.

If Bernie announced Lee or another younger progressive woman as his running mate it would alleviate all my "he's too old" concerns and he'd probably be my pick.

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Jaxyon posted:

Kamala's pushing a tax bill right now that isn't going to go anywhere but it notably does have Universal Basic Income Lite in it, which is pretty interesting from a person who's obviously planning on running.

It seems something akin to an expanded version of the EITC. It is is real milquetoast, but yeah it is certainly a key sign she is planning a run.

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

axeil posted:

If Bernie announced Lee or another younger progressive woman as his running mate it would alleviate all my "he's too old" concerns and he'd probably be my pick.

I know this is probably not what you meant but Lee is only 5 years younger than Bernie.

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

axeil posted:

If Bernie announced Lee or another younger progressive woman as his running mate it would alleviate all my "he's too old" concerns and he'd probably be my pick.

He should pick someone even older.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Trabisnikof posted:

I know this is probably not what you meant but Lee is only 5 years younger than Bernie.

Which is crazy tbh, she looks like she’s about 55 to me.

I think he should pick Lee because she owns and is in a safe House seat, but only if she’s down and there’s a suitable replacement.

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axeil
Feb 14, 2006

Trabisnikof posted:

I know this is probably not what you meant but Lee is only 5 years younger than Bernie.

Is she really? Dang. I thought she was only in her 50s or early 60s.

Bernie's gonna be 79 in 2021 so pretty much by definition anyone he picks as running mate is younger than him, but if he won I would be seriously concerned he would die in office or his brain would turn into mush like Trump/Reagan.

If you could somehow transplant his brain into a 50 or even 60 year-old I think he'd be looking much better in this pre-primary phase, his age is a major concern.

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