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Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!

yronic heroism posted:



Also, lol forever that it’s now a career strategy to lie and say you believe this stuff to get federal jobs/clerkships. Can’t wait for the buttcovering excuses of future decades’ legal minds. “No you see I was just pretending to argue consensual adult relationships were like bestiality.”

Lol forever if you think that’s the direction people are going to lie about, instead of everyone clamoring to claim they’ve been wearing the swastika armband since the very first beer hall meetings

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Kawasaki Nun
Jul 16, 2001

by Reene

mastershakeman posted:

Illinois is making attorneys who don't have malpractice insurance through a firm (i.e. everyone who does doc review) do 4 hours of 'self assessment' about all that stuff. Normally CLEs are like an hour video or whatever. This is flash only and requires you to click next slide about every 15-30 seconds and otherwise stops.

:smithicide:

edit: AND THERES loving QUIZZES A FEW SLIDES IN JESUS gently caress

im going to go postal. i got to the end to yet another quiz, which froze. reloaded t ab, which disappeared. went back to the site, 'resumed where i left off' and it started me at the beginning where i was 45 loving minutes ago

Dusted...

yronic heroism
Oct 31, 2008

Phil Moscowitz posted:

Lol forever if you think that’s the direction people are going to lie about, instead of everyone clamoring to claim they’ve been wearing the swastika armband since the very first beer hall meetings

:smith: . txt

Pook Good Mook
Aug 6, 2013


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yronic heroism posted:

It’s p cool all judges now need to be members of a club that started because no one else would believe this stuff (to the exclusion of everything else) back when SCOTUS was actually doing positive things like ruling against segregation.

Also, lol forever that it’s now a career strategy to lie and say you believe this stuff to get federal jobs/clerkships. Can’t wait for the buttcovering excuses of future decades’ legal minds. “No you see I was just pretending to argue consensual adult relationships were like bestiality.”

There's great joy to be found when you find a lawyer who takes textualism seriously and you can watch their face contort when you don't even pretend to humor them by pretending that the philosophy has merit.

Here's a hint, if a jurisprudence "theory" would have upheld Dred Scott 200 years ago, it's the wrong loving theory.

EwokEntourage
Jun 10, 2008

BREYER: Actually, Antonin, you got it backwards. See, a power bottom is actually generating all the dissents by doing most of the work.

SCALIA: Stephen, I've heard that speed has something to do with it.

BREYER: Speed has everything to do with it.

Mr. Nice! posted:

:lol: that might not be too bad of a plan. Reminds me of HankCo.


In employment news, I interviewed via gotomeeting today with the COO/HR head of a firm that spans four states and has more than half a dozen offices in state. They don't have an opening in my town, and the spot I really wanted is getting offered today to someone else, but there are still other statewide openings where they think I'll be a good fit. They're going to schedule a second interview down in Orlando with the equity partner that runs that branch. It's 100% workers comp defense for insurance companies, but if there willing to pay alright it doesn't sound bad.

They had me take a behavior and cognitive assessment prior to the interview. I asked about my score on the cognitive test because I was curious. The test itself advertised a strict 12 minute time limit and said most people do not finish all questions. She seemed shocked when I said I finished all 60 questions with 5 minutes left. She told me scores are strictly confidential, but that I scored beyond exceptionally well. I figure that translates to only one or two incorrect. Regardless this is only my second time to get an interview callback, so I'm a little elated even if it means I have to move.

Good luck but that just Sounds like a sweat shop firm. How are there 12 cities in Florida worth having an office in, are the meth accidents that numerous

EwokEntourage fucked around with this message at 05:50 on Oct 19, 2018

Look Sir Droids
Jan 27, 2015

The tracks go off in this direction.

yronic heroism posted:


Also, lol forever that it’s now a career strategy to lie and say you believe this stuff to get federal jobs/clerkships. Can’t wait for the buttcovering excuses of future decades’ legal minds. “No you see I was just pretending to argue consensual adult relationships were like bestiality.”

This won’t be a problem after Kav. Future nominees can respond to Senators that ask questions like that by yelling and threatening future revenge.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

EwokEntourage posted:

Good luck but that just Sounds like a sweat shop firm. How are there 12 cities in Florida worth having an office in, are the meth accidents that numerous

Florida is the third most populous state. There are a lot of people here. There are also a fuckload of worker’s comp attorneys suing for people all the time.

They do have a lot of locations, but the small offices, like here in Tallahassee, have only a handful of people and very low turnover.

It might be lovely work. It’s already the opposite side of where I would like to be in a worker’s comp case, but if they’ll actually pay me it’s something.

I told them during the interview a bit about political affiliation, and that’s part of why she recommended for an office with a partner that agrees with me. I’m volunteering the next two weeks as a partisan poll watcher and will be in the boiler room with some of the heads of the FL democratic party. The guy that runs the veteran’s legal clinic is one of the people running this for the state. None of my clinic people want me to move so they’re trying to find some way to pay me to stay. If Gillum wins I could find a spot on his staff. Just waiting to see how everything shakes out.

The worker’s comp firm told me for the first year I have to average 125 billable hours a month and afterwards expected 200/month. 2400/year expectation definitely sucks, but I expect compensation should be in line with the work.

I figure the ultimate test is will they pay for me to travel for my second interview. I already asked them about it so I’m just waiting for a response.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

It was really great getting to hear a second time through about how you should have unique 12+ character passwords for every account, 3 backups across more than one device, never use public WiFi, etc. All of these are "reasonable" and I'd loving love to see one of the million 70 year old lawyers in the state told they have to do this instead of the army of temps forced to watch these videos that have no application to them

Nice piece of fish
Jan 29, 2008

Ultra Carp
loving hell I hate lawsuit season. Why do people go bananas all at the same time, I'm so loving tired and I have dance classes all weekend. I've heard all sorts of poo poo lately too, things I've learned include a dirty as gently caress mob lawyer got hired to a municipal law enforcement oversight position in a fuckup orders of magnitude above the general incompetence of local authority and a well-known artist is a secret pedo and needs a crim defence specialist to review his case. Super. In sum this is me 24/7:

yronic heroism
Oct 31, 2008

Look Sir Droids posted:

This won’t be a problem after Kav. Future nominees can respond to Senators that ask questions like that by yelling and threatening future revenge.

“Again, Senator, based on precedent, my answer is that I like beer. Do you like beer?”

Pook Good Mook
Aug 6, 2013


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Nice piece of fish posted:

loving hell I hate lawsuit season. Why do people go bananas all at the same time, I'm so loving tired and I have dance classes all weekend. I've heard all sorts of poo poo lately too, things I've learned include a dirty as gently caress mob lawyer got hired to a municipal law enforcement oversight position in a fuckup orders of magnitude above the general incompetence of local authority and a well-known artist is a secret pedo and needs a crim defence specialist to review his case.

Is the Norwegian mob primarily involved in cod trafficking?

nutri_void
Apr 18, 2015

I shall devour your soul.
Grimey Drawer

Pook Good Mook posted:

Is the Norwegian mob primarily involved in cod trafficking?

My money's on oil. If you have oil, you automatically get corruption and organized crime. Maybe it's not to the extent of Middle East/Eastern Europe/Latin America, because Norway, but still

Pook Good Mook
Aug 6, 2013


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Alexeythegreat posted:

My money's on oil. If you have oil, you automatically get corruption and organized crime. Maybe it's not to the extent of Middle East/Eastern Europe/Latin America, because Norway, but still

Well at least they get free healthcare for their clubbed knees

disjoe
Feb 18, 2011


Alexeythegreat posted:

My money's on oil. If you have oil, you automatically get corruption and organized crime. Maybe it's not to the extent of Middle East/Eastern Europe/Latin America, because Norway, but still

See here in America we don’t have that problem because we just let the O&G corporations break peoples’ legs

Kawasaki Nun
Jul 16, 2001

by Reene

disjoe posted:

See here in America we don’t have that problem because we just let the O&G corporations break peoples’ legs

Rip Huey Long :sad:

Edit: autocorrect changing Huey to hurt because they hate ducks and black cartoon character and the kingfish

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

disjoe posted:

See here in America we don’t have that problem because we just let the O&G corporations break peoples’ legs

Can't have corruption if bribes are legal. (Insert guy tapping head meme)

Nice piece of fish
Jan 29, 2008

Ultra Carp

Pook Good Mook posted:

Is the Norwegian mob primarily involved in cod trafficking?

There isn't one, unless you count moms with strollers. We imported some bike gangs and they are pretty much it, as well as smatterings of polish mobsters.

E: Unless you count Sven from Upthefjord, he's pretty shady. He was on the hit tv program "you won't believe the idiots who live over here" with a dancing and singing cod but it didn't dance and almost couldn't sing either.

Alexeythegreat posted:

My money's on oil. If you have oil, you automatically get corruption and organized crime. Maybe it's not to the extent of Middle East/Eastern Europe/Latin America, because Norway, but still

Maybe if you're Russia. Oil is so ridiculously regulated here with so much oversight and direct state control it'd be like imagining a nuclear power mafia smuggling uranium and poo poo.

Nice piece of fish fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Oct 19, 2018

Pook Good Mook
Aug 6, 2013


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Nice piece of fish posted:

Maybe if you're Russia. Oil is so ridiculously regulated here with so much oversight and direct state control it'd be like imagining a nuclear power mafia smuggling uranium and poo poo.

Based on my experiences in Scandinavia, my assumption is that the domestic price of gas went up after Norway discovered oil.

EwokEntourage
Jun 10, 2008

BREYER: Actually, Antonin, you got it backwards. See, a power bottom is actually generating all the dissents by doing most of the work.

SCALIA: Stephen, I've heard that speed has something to do with it.

BREYER: Speed has everything to do with it.

Nice piece of fish posted:

it'd be like imagining a nuclear power mafia smuggling uranium and poo poo.

So Russia?

Nice piece of fish
Jan 29, 2008

Ultra Carp

Pook Good Mook posted:

Based on my experiences in Scandinavia, my assumption is that the domestic price of gas went up after Norway discovered oil.

It did, due to taxes. It's one of the most taxed goods we have. It's about 8 dollars a gallon on average I think. Including road tolls, road tax, mandatory insurance, tire spike tax and average maintenance which is 25 % vat on parts and work in addition to import tax for the parts you can expect to spend 15 000 USD per car per year average if you commute any kind of distance at all.

Then add the cost of gas.

Nice piece of fish
Jan 29, 2008

Ultra Carp

Yeah might not have been the best example to use on alexey.

nutri_void
Apr 18, 2015

I shall devour your soul.
Grimey Drawer

Nice piece of fish posted:

There isn't one, unless you count moms with strollers. We imported some bike gangs and they are pretty much it, as well as smatterings of polish mobsters.

E: Unless you count Sven from Upthefjord, he's pretty shady. He was on the hit tv program "you won't believe the idiots who live over here" with a dancing and singing cod but it didn't dance and almost couldn't sing either.


Maybe if you're Russia. Oil is so ridiculously regulated here with so much oversight and direct state control it'd be like imagining a nuclear power mafia smuggling uranium and poo poo.

The part in bold is exactly how it is in Russia

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."
I know Norway has the mob, I've seen lillyhammer.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.

Nice piece of fish posted:

Maybe if you're Russia. Oil is so ridiculously regulated here with so much oversight and direct state control it'd be like imagining a nuclear power mafia smuggling uranium and poo poo.

You didn't follow the Fukushima incident too closely, eh?

Nice piece of fish
Jan 29, 2008

Ultra Carp

Alexeythegreat posted:

The part in bold is exactly how it is in Russia

Not sure if russian state management is comparable to norwegian state managment in any sort of way, but I will freely admit that the oil industry is absolutely responsible for some downright fuckery abroad and probably at home as well. It's very well hidden though, and I don't know if mafia would be the right term for it. Maybe "republicanism" is closer.


nm posted:

I know Norway has the mob, I've seen lillyhammer.

That's actually a documentary.


Discendo Vox posted:

You didn't follow the Fukushima incident too closely, eh?

There was a nuclear power mafia smuggling uranium?

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.

Nice piece of fish posted:

There was a nuclear power mafia smuggling uranium?

Kinda, the root cause appears to have been tied to yakuza involvement in the nuclear industry of Japan at several levels.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/05/how-yakuza-and-japans-nuclear-industry-learned-love-each-other/327691/

blarzgh
Apr 14, 2009

SNITCHIN' RANDY
Grimey Drawer

Discendo Vox posted:

Kinda, the root cause appears to have been tied to yakuza involvement in the nuclear industry of Japan at several levels.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/05/how-yakuza-and-japans-nuclear-industry-learned-love-each-other/327691/

Whoa cool!

blarzgh
Apr 14, 2009

SNITCHIN' RANDY
Grimey Drawer
I mean except for all the dead people

EwokEntourage
Jun 10, 2008

BREYER: Actually, Antonin, you got it backwards. See, a power bottom is actually generating all the dissents by doing most of the work.

SCALIA: Stephen, I've heard that speed has something to do with it.

BREYER: Speed has everything to do with it.
Wait, so the yakuza have an earthquake machine???

SlyFrog
May 16, 2007

What? One name? Who are you, Seal?

EwokEntourage posted:

Wait, so the yakuza have an earthquake machine???

James Bond has taught me that there are Japanese fishing villages with retractable roof volcanos, so yes, they also have earthquake machines.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

EwokEntourage posted:

Wait, so the yakuza have an earthquake machine???

Obviously you haven't seen Kiryu Kazama fight

G-Mawwwwwww
Jan 31, 2003

My LPth are Hot Garbage
Biscuit Hider

mastershakeman posted:

Obviously you haven't seen Kiryu Kazama fight

He kills no men except in paradise

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.
I am not one of those goons who is super into Japan, but my rudimentary understanding is that their government and economy is more corrupt, and parasitic organized crime plays a larger, more accepted role in society, than basically any other nominally democratic country.

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time

Discendo Vox posted:

I am not one of those goons who is super into Japan, but my rudimentary understanding is that their government and economy is more corrupt, and parasitic organized crime plays a larger, more accepted role in society, than basically any other nominally democratic country.

Not by a long shot. Italy exists, for example.

Nice piece of fish
Jan 29, 2008

Ultra Carp
Korea.

Sweden.

I could go on.

EwokEntourage
Jun 10, 2008

BREYER: Actually, Antonin, you got it backwards. See, a power bottom is actually generating all the dissents by doing most of the work.

SCALIA: Stephen, I've heard that speed has something to do with it.

BREYER: Speed has everything to do with it.

Discendo Vox posted:

I am not one of those goons who is super into Japan, but my rudimentary understanding is that their government and economy is more corrupt, and parasitic organized crime plays a larger, more accepted role in society, than basically any other nominally democratic country.

Worse than the Republican Party???

El_Elegante
Jul 3, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Biscuit Hider
Yeah, Italy is a member of the G7 and OECD and is far worse than Japan.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin
Korea is run by a cabal of witches and their last president sacrificed 300 people on the anniversary of her cult leaders death

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.

therobit posted:

Not by a long shot. Italy exists, for example.

Yeah, I know Italy exists- it was the comparison point I was thinking of. If you're saying it's worse there, I believe you. The domestic politics of Japan with the whole one party hegemony and paired media system seemed worse.

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Look Sir Droids
Jan 27, 2015

The tracks go off in this direction.

Discendo Vox posted:

The domestic politics of Japan with the whole one party hegemony and paired media system seemed worse.

Systems like this make me wonder why they don’t just do a monarchy. Bullshit democracies leave more room for corruption.

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