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SiKboy posted:I think he means that in the '67 version he was a burnout/hippy. In the '05 musical film (and presumably the stage show it was based on) the hippy role is replaced with a camp gay stereotype. So over time (in the remake) the original version was replaced with an arguably more offensive version. *she Yes, I was talking about the '05 movie. The Producers was a movie, then a musical play, then a musical movie, just like Little Shop of Horrors. The entire Keep it Gay song leaned hard into the "gay is always funny" trope, but I laughed anyway because I am a terrible person. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri2TplWqY1o Fake edit: gently caress. Gary Beach died in July. And, yes, you don't hire him as an actor unless you want Campy Gay Man. Edit: Mel Brooks is just problematic all around, but it doesn't matter because he's talented, funny, and insightful, able to pull humor out of the darkest places. It's a rare talent, but one many writers and directors seem to think they have. I mean, Young Frankenstein has rape leading to a woman falling in love with her rapist because he has a big dick and it's one of my favorite movies. Young Frankenstein has been made into a musical play, by the way. I guess in a few years it'll be made into a musical movie. Aleph Null has a new favorite as of 16:47 on Oct 19, 2018 |
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Barudak posted:You know thats an actual mormon belief, right? Like the reason Jesus rode in a concrete submarine to America for the three days he was dead was to preach to the lost tribes. That is literal fact, especially since we have evidence many of them can change into werewolves and want to gently caress vampire babies
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When I was a young teen in the early 80s I had a well-worn VHS of a TV version of Blazing Saddles. Watched it a million times. There’s a scene with a little old lady saying, “Up yours, friend of the family,” and the TV network dubbed “up yours,” to “outta my way,” but kept the word “friend of the family.”
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:His headdress has Hebrew lettering on the poster, in the film his Indian Chief character spoke Yiddish "Where the Fugawi!?"
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Lincoln posted:When I was a young teen in the early 80s I had a well-worn VHS of a TV version of Blazing Saddles. Watched it a million times. There’s a scene with a little old lady saying, “Up yours, friend of the family,” and the TV network dubbed “up yours,” to “outta my way,” but kept the word “friend of the family.” Geez, and I thought it was weird when they would only cut the “God” in “goddamn”
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Coffee And Pie posted:Geez, and I thought it was weird when they would only cut the “God” in “goddamn” They didn't want to take the lord's name in vain, but if you just drat something without god, that's fine.
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Thought it was neat in Westworld season 2 that (kinda big spoilers if you haven't seen season 2) the only thing that "permanently" killed the hosts was actual bullets from real guns, and not the "smart ammo" in the guest's guns. Note This seems pretty obvious in hindsight but I didn't think about it until I was wondering how Delores kept being ok after getting shot. Turns out, regular rifle ammo never hit anything important. Other hosts got shot in the heart/chest and were killed by the rifle bullets. They tended to ignore the "smart ammo" rounds. Stupid_Sexy_Flander has a new favorite as of 18:52 on Oct 19, 2018 |
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IUG posted:They didn't want to take the lord's name in vain, but if you just drat something without god, that's fine. The first time I really noticed this was in Hydro Thunder of all places. One of the bots is named drat The Torpedoes.
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Ardent Communist posted:Haha, I remember my mom sitting me down when I was like 13 or 14, saying you should watch this movie, it was one of your dad's favourites. It was Blazing Saddles, and it is a drat hilarious movie. Is there much in it that's offensive? I mean, Mel brooks as an Indian could be argued as racist, but it's not an unfavourable impression? Obviously the language can be a bit strong, but I wouldn't say it's racist or anything. But I'm white, so I dunno. I tried to watch slap shot and I lost my loving poo poo that he was out in public, in broad daylight, in the famous murderer's mask. The movie murderer who stabs people mask. The silence of the lambs i'm going to eat your loving liver mask. It was all I could think about. Fifteen minutes into the movie they're trying to associate who's who and what their motivations are and I'm googling for the history of the murderer mask and when friday the 13th first came out and whether the movie made actual real life hockey players figure out a different way to keep their teeth from flying out of their faces that doesn't associate themselves with psychopathic iconography. I can't tell you a single thing about the movie I was too into that mask conundrum. You say it was a comedy, somehow? And it wasn't funny because a non-murderer was wearing the murderer's mask?
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Krinkle posted:actual real life hockey players have you seen a hockey match it's basically attempted murder on ice
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Yeah but it was starring the guy on my salad dressing.
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So looking it up to see how much more camp the new one was in comparison, I Learned a Thing: The original Roger De Bris was Mr. Belvedere.
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Don't forget there was a "Blazing Saddles" TV that had several seasons but never aired in an attempt by producers to keep the rights.quote:CBS aired the pilot once on April 4, 1975. The pilot episode featured guest appearances by Gerrit Graham and Brooke Adams and was written by Michael Elias and Rich Eustis. Elias and Eutis later created and executive produced the ABC sitcom Head of the Class (1986-1991).
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Blazing Saddles made 100+ million in 1970's money. Adjusted for inflation that's half a billion dollars. You better believe they wanted to make sequels.
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Davros1 posted:Don't forget there was a "Blazing Saddles" TV that had several seasons but never aired in an attempt by producers to keep the rights. Holy poo poo this is insane and now I want to see it.
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The first episode is on one of the bluray releases. I have it as part of the Mel Brooks collection. The show is loving awful.
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IUG posted:The first episode is on one of the bluray releases. I have it as part of the Mel Brooks collection. It was on the DVD release too.
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IUG posted:The first episode is on one of the bluray releases. I have it as part of the Mel Brooks collection. Not particularly surprised that a show they knew would never get aired would be garbage
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Krinkle posted:I tried to watch slap shot and I lost my loving poo poo that he was out in public, in broad daylight, in the famous murderer's mask. The movie murderer who stabs people mask. The silence of the lambs i'm going to eat your loving liver mask. It was all I could think about. Fifteen minutes into the movie they're trying to associate who's who and what their motivations are and I'm googling for the history of the murderer mask and when friday the 13th first came out and whether the movie made actual real life hockey players figure out a different way to keep their teeth from flying out of their faces that doesn't associate themselves with psychopathic iconography. Haha, I'm really confused what you mean, and I've seen the movie a thousand times. What mask? Like a goalie mask? I can't remember anything like this.
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iajanus posted:Not particularly surprised that a show they knew would never get aired would be garbage That was the one they actually aired, I wonder how the unaired ones were.
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That actually raises an interesting question. How much did the show being filmed need to resemble Blazing Saddles for it to count legally towards them using the property? If they never intended to air, could they have set up a camera and filmed two cowboys eating beans for half an hour and call it a day?
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dirksteadfast posted:That actually raises an interesting question. How much did the show being filmed need to resemble Blazing Saddles for it to count legally towards them using the property? If they never intended to air, could they have set up a camera and filmed two cowboys eating beans for half an hour and call it a day? I would watch that show I have a very particular kink
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Turns out Brokeback Mountain was just fulfilling a clause.
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Ardent Communist posted:Haha, I'm really confused what you mean, and I've seen the movie a thousand times. What mask? Like a goalie mask? I can't remember anything like this. I *think* he's trying to say that he never knew that Jason's mask was anything other than Jason's mask, and it baffled him seeing hockey players wearing it, since he didn't know it was a hockey mask.
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That mask has only ever been associated with horror franchises to me. Goalies now wear like, if you started with a motorcycle helmet with a Plexiglas shield and then added mad max wires for the apocalypse to it. And my thesis statement is after the murder movies came out goalies felt silly wearing the old style. Maybe the goalie comes home after a long day puts his hat on the hatrack and his children all scream, he takes off his murderer's mask and they're still crying. There's got to be a better way!
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Krinkle posted:That mask has only ever been associated with horror franchises to me. Goalies now wear like, if you started with a motorcycle helmet with a Plexiglas shield and then added mad max wires for the apocalypse to it. And my thesis statement is after the murder movies came out goalies felt silly wearing the old style. Maybe the goalie comes home after a long day puts his hat on the hatrack and his children all scream, he takes off his murderer's mask and they're still crying. There's got to be a better way! This is accurate. Coming from both a goalie and a fan of the franchise.
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In a lot of America kids might play hockey at school and have access to sports equipment so the mask loses its novelty aside from wearing it and chasing your classmates around a few times. Sports equipment in general is frequently viable weaponry.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:In a lot of America kids might play hockey at school and have access to sports equipment so the mask loses its novelty aside from wearing it and chasing your classmates around a few times. Vice Versa too, shift the grip on a machete 90 degrees and you could swing it at a baseball easily.
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Casey Jones is just such a great character in TMNT because he looks out the window and sees a world of gangster ninjas, mutant monsters, alien invaders, and rogue robots, and decides, I'mma fight that, with the contents of a sporting goods store clearance sale. And he actually does pretty well.
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I can't remember anyone in Slapshot wearing a goalie mask. Maaaybe one dude from one of the rival teams during a game. Hell no one even wears a helmet even though, as becomes clear during the movie, they really should have.
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Is there more than one 70s hockey comedy with a really obvious name? I'm real sorry if I goofed and confused everyone. e:  okay yeah here at 3 minutes 28 seconds I checked out completely because the french canadian guy from the cold opening put on the murder mask.
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When you said you were surprised at the guy wearing it in public in broad daylight, I thought you meant it was out in the park or something. Not inside during a hockey game where it's completely normal. Do you think Jason created that mask?
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Just finished season 2 of Crazy Ex-Girlfriend. I love that the intro song for season 2 is foreshadowing for the season finale reveal: "I'm just a girl in love. I can't be held responsible for my actions." Also I like that her psychiatrist has given her a partial diagnosis, in calling out her flashbacks as Dissociative Memory episodes, also that the musical thing is how most of her mental illness expresses itself - she thinks it's a coping mechanism, but it's more a genuine hallucination. Gonna start season 3 later.
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Krinkle posted:Is there more than one 70s hockey comedy with a really obvious name? I'm real sorry if I goofed and confused everyone.
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Thank god we got the Goon movies. They're the Slapshot sequels that the actual Slapshot sequels wish they could be.
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Haha, yeah, they're both pretty good and they are almost exacting the same amount of hockey but mostly the hockey culture, which is definitely a hosed up and yet funny culture.
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BioEnchanted posted:Just finished season 2 of Crazy Ex-Girlfriend. I love that the intro song for season 2 is foreshadowing for the season finale reveal: "I'm just a girl in love. I can't be held responsible for my actions." Also I like that her psychiatrist has given her a partial diagnosis, in calling out her flashbacks as Dissociative Memory episodes, also that the musical thing is how most of her mental illness expresses itself - she thinks it's a coping mechanism, but it's more a genuine hallucination. This show has one of the best, most sympathetic but not patronizing, takes on mental illness I have ever witnessed.
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Barudak posted:You know thats an actual mormon belief, right? Like the reason Jesus rode in a concrete submarine to America for the three days he was dead was to preach to the lost tribes. yeah but they believe those lost tribes were john smith and not actual natives.
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This is probably just me being an idiot, but upon rewatching Raiders of the Lost Ark (probably first time as an adult, to be honest), and I realized why the Nazi copy of the headpiece for the Staff of Ra was one sided and missing information. They made the copy from the burns on Major Toht’s hand, sustained in the tavern when he tried to grab the original during the fire.
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Did you just notice the part where Toht saluted with the burn marks on his hand in focus?
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