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Has there ever been a good write-up on the Children of Gaia?
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Oct 19, 2018 22:34
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Dawgstar posted:Has there ever been a good write-up on the Children of Gaia? As in the books? Or on the tribe?
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Oct 19, 2018 22:40
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Kurieg posted:As in the books? Or on the tribe? The tribe. I'm already a fan of your F&F.
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Oct 19, 2018 22:50
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Dawgstar posted:Has there ever been a good write-up on the Children of Gaia? What do you mean by good? Informative or funny? The Werewolf Translation Guide has a short, concise write-up. But I have to imagine there's probably a dozen or so in WtA.
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Oct 19, 2018 23:55
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So, uh... After looking at the oWoD humble bundle, and seeing that it had a bunch of pristine digital scans of books that are only scans elsewhere, I examined the new worldofdarkness.com store, and found that it is absolutely chock full of clean digital WoD PDFs of books that are only low-quality scans on DTRPG. I have absolutely no idea why, but the list includes: Renegades Sea of Shadows Guildbook: Pardoners and Puppeteers Inanimae: the Secret Way Kithbook: Eshu Transylvania By Night Clanbook: Cappadocian Clanbook: Salubri Tribebook: Bone Gnawers Tribebook: Children of Gaia First Contact Holy War Fall From Grace The Infernal The Moonstruck The Spellbound The Nocturnal The Book of Mirrors Alien Hunger
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Oct 20, 2018 01:25
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Anyone found a good Actual Play of Changeling the Lost?
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Oct 20, 2018 01:53
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Helical Nightmares posted:Anyone found a good Actual Play of Changeling the Lost? There's a good show that's been streamed if you want to watch something.
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Oct 20, 2018 02:22
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So I watched Apostle. Spoilers re: viewing it as an oWoD film. If you view the Goddess as a Koldun, you get literally the perfect film about a Tzimisce herd-cult.
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Oct 20, 2018 04:02
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Rand Brittain posted:So, uh... The main cores and the clan books and Book of Nod should be that way as well; they were all cleaned up OCRed recreations in the Humble Bundle last year that had all them. I think WW saw that DTRPG had just poo poo scans and said 'We can do better' and did that recreation. That or since they own the IP, they might have access to files that OPP didn't for their DTRPG push. MoonKnight fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Oct 20, 2018 |
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Oct 20, 2018 04:24
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I really want updated versions of the Dark Ages clanbooks (specifically Salubri, Baali, and Cappadocian) because the existing clanbooks are not particularly informative or useful.
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Oct 20, 2018 12:17
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So oddball question - in 5E, to the Setites call themselves The Ministry now?
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Oct 21, 2018 00:52
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Dawgstar posted:So oddball question - in 5E, to the Setites call themselves The Ministry now? Yes. From what little we know they have become more of a spiritual group and are offering their advice to the Anarchs in particular. This was set up in BJD with the Setites inducting people from other clans.
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Oct 21, 2018 01:02
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Loomer posted:So I watched Apostle. Spoilers re: viewing it as an oWoD film. If you view the Goddess as a Koldun, you get literally the perfect film about a Tzimisce herd-cult. I viewed her more as a Fae entity, although I'm not entirely sure why, might just be my biases. You certainly have ample evidence, based on what we know of Her physiology, to suspect something vampire. In nWoD terms she fits perfectly in the Circle of the Crone, either as an extremely powerful member or as some of the weird poo poo they interact with. Anyone here know what language she was speaking? It sounded Gaelic to me, so I assume it was Welsh because Evans is Welsh and used to teach the Welsh language, but I can't find anyone to confirm it. Any other thoughts on the film, Loomer? I liked it a lot, thought it wasn't incredibly deep but was gorgeous, extremely well paced, and just cruelly effective all the way through. I also really dig horror stories where there is some supernatural poo poo going on, but the real villains are people. The vampire movie Byzantium did something similar, and it's always a trope I love because human motivations are usually more compelling to me.
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Oct 21, 2018 17:27
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Boy do I love playing a Promethean, especially when it involves a comedy of errors. So it turns out part of a nearby town has been converted into a feudal village. Finding this... odd, we go to investigate. Turns out it's under the control of Changelings. We learn they are Loyalist Changelings. We learn that they are Loyalist Changelings who serve the Keeper who took one of our Changelings. We decide to leave. Later that night, our local Kiyasid (new to town) recruits Our Hero Solomon Grundy and a couple of other Vampires to go wreck up the place. The comedy of errors commences. Instead of coming up with a good plan, we crash a car into the city walls. While the guards are distracted, one of the Vampires uses Cloak the Gathering. The Kiyasid (who apparently has a metric gently caress ton of Vigor) grabs the other two vampires and leaps over the wall. Solomon can't leap over the wall, but he's strong enough to at least reach the top and pull himself up. Unless, of course, he botches. He botches. WHAM! Well, Solomon is no longer obfuscated. No problem, one of the Vampires tosses a rope over the wall and holds on to it so Solomon can climb up! And then the Kiyasid grabs the Vampires and leaps to the top of the main tower. While one of the Vampires is holding the rope. While Solomon is holding the other end of the rope. Queue Solomon singing "I CAME IN LIKE A WREEEEECKING BAAAAAALL" as he careens through the air, arrows bouncing off of his skin. OK, time to flip cards to make the landing, no big deal, no way I'll botch again. I botched again. Solomon crashes through a big fuckin window. Right into the main hall. Where a man on a throne and all his courtiers are holding court. "Ah!" Solomon thinks. "The man on the throne must be their leader! He must be the Keeper! poo poo, all the Changelings say they're really strong, I need to take him out pronto!" Titan Throw a table at him, turning him into a red smear. "Huh, these Keepers aren't so tough..." Solomon thinks to himself as the courtiers erupt in blinding light and charge him. Solomon decides the wisest move is to created an earthquake via Wrath of the Gods to throw them off balance so he can fight them. Success! Earthquake started, now let's fight thes- oh no that one's got a flaming sword, agg damage, gently caress that noise, and Solomon leaps out the window behind him. Solomon is only four months old. He doesn't really understand architecture and the like. So when the medieval tower collapses, along with several houses and portions of the city wall thanks to the earthquake, he is somewhat surprised. "Well, at least I killed the Keeper!" He says. Ron Howard from Arrested Development: "Solomon had not killed the Keeper, but instead a regular Changeling." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag1o3koTLWM FrostyPox fucked around with this message at 00:28 on Oct 22, 2018 |
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Oct 22, 2018 00:24
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Digital Osmosis posted:I viewed her more as a Fae entity, although I'm not entirely sure why, might just be my biases. You certainly have ample evidence, based on what we know of Her physiology, to suspect something vampire. In nWoD terms she fits perfectly in the Circle of the Crone, either as an extremely powerful member or as some of the weird poo poo they interact with. I thought it was very strong overall and great fun. Weirdly enough I actually got a Byzantium vibe watching it myself - very different movies but a similar tonality in parts. It's easy to make hay out of toxic paternalism and the death of utopias, but when you do it right, that doesn't make it any less strong. I lost a little involvement during the more vicious scenes but that's just because I've become so numb to violent horror that it doesn't really start my engine (I also tend to run my adrenal system pretty hard thanks to an unrelated medical condition so jump scares et al are less effective generally - you give me a shock and most of the time my system doesn't really have enough left in the tank to get me racing) even if it's done well, as it was here. It's definitely worth a watch for anyone on the fence. There's some loose ends and plot holes but nothing that really detracts from the film at all, either. My only real bitch is that the ending was a little bit of a cop out as far as I'm concerned, even if it was thematically pretty appropriate the execution left me wanting. Regarding the supernatural... I think you can read her in a lot of ways. For me, I came in off the heels of my herd and blood requirement calculations a little while ago, so that definitely coloured my view. If I were to actually run Apostle as a game location I'd probably have her just be straight up some Weird poo poo that doesn't fit any particular box. Maybe she's a vampiric fae goddess, maybe she's an old verbena caught in one hell of a Quiet, etc. At the same time, I think it's an excellent filmic example of what happens when a herd/ghoul cult gets one up on its controller and becomes its own rogue force, perpetuating the old rituals despite the massive shift in dynamics. The blood jars in the hallway alone is a really neat way to feed off your herd without direct involvement, for instance, as well as a way afterwards to keep the cult cowed through fatigue and group identity. EDIT: Checking some dates for the timeline and stumbled back onto my favourite tidbit from the Dark Destiny anthologies. Napoleon tried to conquer the Shadowlands with an army made of the dead of his wars. What a campaign that'd be to run! Loomer fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Oct 22, 2018 |
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Oct 22, 2018 04:08
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Loomer posted:EDIT: Checking some dates for the timeline and stumbled back onto my favourite tidbit from the Dark Destiny anthologies. Napoleon tried to conquer the Shadowlands with an army made of the dead of his wars. What a campaign that'd be to run! I'd never heard that! Neat. (One can't imagine invading the Russian Shadowlands is any easier than the live version.)
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Oct 22, 2018 09:09
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Planning on running a Werewolf 20th game sometime soon, as I feel the itch for some Captain Planet / Anti-Pharma shenanigans. What's a good way to make character generation less gameable aka Lupus Stargazer Ahroun? Was planning on giving Metis freebie points for their Flaw, and Homid an extra 3-5 dots of abilities, and then splitting 10 points between Rage and Willpower regardless of tribe and auspice. Does that sound fair?
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Oct 22, 2018 18:05
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The Changeling posted:Has anyone had any experience using Holden Shearer's Powered by the Dark stuff to run oWOD games in a PBTA framework? The VtM one can be found here, the rest are also free on his Patreon.
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Oct 22, 2018 18:18
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So for Mage, because the spellcasting 'quick reference' in the book is insane, and because that app I was originally inspired by is also insane (because it includes literally everything), I decided to make my own spellcasting reference. I have zero actual graphic design skill and was working with Google Docs to try and get it all in one page. I'm happy for people to suggest edits to make it better. It does include the one single house rule of bumping the 'advanced max target size' up by 1 at the start because otherwise it does nothing. I tried to only include what you would need to know on any generic spellcast, not specialised ones. So nothing about paradox, no demesnes, or sacraments, or reading from a grimoire, or anything like that. Not even what happens on an exceptional success. Just casting any regular spell while 'out in the world'. Anything I missed out? I know my layouting could be better, but Google Docs is what it is. It's called 'Spellcasting the Medium Way' since the easy way is Down & Dirty Spellcasting and the hard way is actually trying to reference the book or use the app. bewilderment fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Oct 22, 2018 |
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Oct 22, 2018 23:27
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The V20 bloodlines book contains one piece of fiction which suggests that there's a significant wraith conspiracy to hijack vampire bodies and get them to destroy each other as they are "incomplete deaths" and as such an insult to the kingdoms of the dead. It's in the Harbingers of Skulls section, is that explored anywhere else? Or is it just an interesting one-off idea?
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Oct 23, 2018 00:37
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bewilderment posted:So for Mage, because the spellcasting 'quick reference' in the book is insane, and because that app I was originally inspired by is also insane (because it includes literally everything), I decided to make my own spellcasting reference. Your layout is fine, but you should make a reference to paradox so that the players remember that it exists when they're applying reaches. Doesn't have to be anything more than a few words to remind everyone to check and roll for it before they get too excited. Otherwise it's not missing anything that comes up regularly in my game.
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Oct 23, 2018 00:59
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Basic Chunnel posted:I haven’t, but my general experience of synthesized systems is not great. And I can tell you off the bat that 105 pages is probably 10x as much as any PBtA system should really need The majority of the rules seem on a once-over to be pretty light and cromulent with PBtA's philosophy; the bulk of the book is translations for like every single discipline you can think of. They even have Mytherceria! Mytherceria!!! Probably not the smartest use of time, given all NPCs in PBtA work on the "they do what the GM says happens" principle and given how much PBtA encourages GMs to write their own moves, but they seem fairly reasonable, not too complicated, and it was kind of amusing to see how the various necromantic paths or whatever were translated into PBtA's rules.
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Oct 23, 2018 04:51
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Kiasyd. Why?
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Oct 23, 2018 04:52
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Shockeh posted:Kiasyd. Why? I think they're the third chronological attempt to make a vampire bloodine that gets "fae-associated" because the only more White Wolf way to imply hidden depth of character background is to start implying secret gypsy conspiracies
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Oct 23, 2018 05:03
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I mean, sure, they appeal to a certain sub-genre of roleplayer, and they're monsters in VTES, but.... why. I don't get who or why there's this ongoing obsession with them even conceptually.
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Oct 23, 2018 05:11
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'Vampire and also Fae' is apparently a long-running obsession for people who write WW/OPP. Sometime... this summer? I saw a dev write up a half-Changeling half-Vampire template, which was not a combination of templates that made any sense to me whatsoever.
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Oct 23, 2018 07:11
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Joe Slowboat posted:'Vampire and also Fae' is apparently a long-running obsession for people who write WW/OPP. Sometime... this summer? I saw a dev write up a half-Changeling half-Vampire template, which was not a combination of templates that made any sense to me whatsoever. They're both predatory (slightly less so for changelings) supernaturals who, unlike werewolves and mages, were actively and deliberately altered from a human state (as opposed to discovering their genetic inheritance or having the trippiest Epiphany ever) that manipulate mortals in order to feed off of them, deliberately organize themselves into a feudal structure for secrecy and protection, constantly make deals and bargains and trade favors, and whom both have a self-destructive tendency towards crippling psychological obsessions. They may represent different things with different themes, but there's a lot more overlap than I think you're giving credit for.
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Oct 23, 2018 07:42
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I'm running a halloween game of Chronicles for my friends and I'm using a Strix that possessed a Fetch and aborbed Wyrd Knowledge from it as the primary antagonist.  I figured that was just about the worst thing you could give reality-warping Hedgeshaping abilities to because it can (and did) use it to make a horrifying Silent Hill/Dark Souls otherworld for the players to explore.
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Oct 23, 2018 08:06
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My darkling leechfinger started out as a vampire ripoff, but during creation became more of a spider instead.
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Oct 23, 2018 09:30
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Gerund posted:I think they're the third chronological attempt to make a vampire bloodine that gets "fae-associated" because the only more White Wolf way to imply hidden depth of character background is to start implying secret gypsy conspiracies Third, really? The first time I bumped into them it was in the old, old Laws of the Night booklet, and I'm pretty sure that predated C:tD.
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Oct 23, 2018 10:27
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They made their first appearance in the ST Handbook to the Sabbat from 93, IIRC, but there'd already been an attempt to give the 'fae!' tie-in for Malkavians and Toreadors.
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Oct 23, 2018 10:34
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Ah! I wondered where they came from; the Sabbat wasn't a big thing in my circles. Vaguely remember the Malkavian connection too, come to think of it.
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Oct 23, 2018 10:41
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Loomer posted:They made their first appearance in the ST Handbook to the Sabbat from 93, IIRC, but there'd already been an attempt to give the 'fae!' tie-in for Malkavians and Toreadors. Yeah, I swear there was something somewhere that talked about how Malkavians could or did visit Arcadia. Certainly there's one in that little multi-splat group in the first Void Engineers book, which takes place in the Umbra.
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Oct 23, 2018 13:35
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There's a fae-vampire bloodline in Requiem but their main thing is traveling in some kind of weird mirror land, and also being hella hosed up in the brain.
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Oct 23, 2018 14:18
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Dawgstar posted:Yeah, I swear there was something somewhere that talked about how Malkavians could or did visit Arcadia. Certainly there's one in that little multi-splat group in the first Void Engineers book, which takes place in the Umbra. "Take a trip to Faerieland" was a high-level Discipline power in the first Malkavian clanbook.
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Oct 23, 2018 14:24
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Basic Chunnel posted:I haven’t, but my general experience of synthesized systems is not great. And I can tell you off the bat that 105 pages is probably 10x as much as any PBtA system should really need I get where you're coming from, though the 105-page count takes in account all of the many, many disciplines in V20DA. I'm still going to give it a shot, because it seems like it could be fun.
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Oct 23, 2018 16:00
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So, I've been curious about how exactly someone gets along from 'naked in the woods' to 'functioning in society'. A path for a Changeling, vampire, or what have you that can't or won't go back to their previous life and needs to become a legally recognized individual. I went in with the assumption that there had to be some legal mechanism for the situation. Turns out no, not really. You don't have a drivers licence (Though some states do issue a drivers licence for undocumented immigrants, it doesn't function for any legal purpose) or social security number, no birth certificate, no passport, and no way to get any of those. I think normally, you'd be treated as an illegal immigrant, except research is going to determine that you're Stateless, no other nation is going to have records of you or claim you as your own. You can still get detained for months at a time, though. Plus, without a social security number or background to check, you can't have anything other than under-the-table jobs, so you're guilty of tax evasion. You're just kinda screwed with no recourse.
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Oct 23, 2018 16:35
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And that's why the Camarilla exists.
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Oct 23, 2018 16:40
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The only real mechanism you have involves a lot of forgeries and crimes, yes. All that said: there is a tax form for documenting income from illegal activities, which you can use without actually declaring yourself guilty in a court of law. It's also gonna get you extremely audited.
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Oct 23, 2018 16:46
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It's kind of hilarious that 'how do you feed on humanity' is actually less of a problem for vamps than 'how do you function without being able to be out during normal business hours, on a constructed ID'.
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