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Alan Smithee posted:make it hard R and then we'll talk This is what my pirate wife says to me when I ask for sex.
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Alan Smithee posted:make it hard R and then we'll talk honestly, Mortal Kombat is simultaneously the franchise where this makes the most and yet least sense like, yeah, on one level, of loving course it should be R, half of why the series is famous is because of ridiculous gore. but on the other hand, the first movie was PG-13 and managed fine, and was even surprisingly brutal for the rating, because that's not actually the important part of MK and when you hone in on the actual important parts it starts seeming like something you should probably try to make kid-friendly-ish.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:honestly, Mortal Kombat is simultaneously the franchise where this makes the most and yet least sense ...do you think that an otherwise-hard-R-for-violence Mortal Kombat movie could get a PG-13 rating if they used the common video game censorship tactic of recoloring the blood and replacing the gore with something silly that's obviously a stand-in for gore? That'd really be something.
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JethroMcB posted:holy poo poo, I knew it did poorly but I thought that meant Hollywood Franchise Blockbuster "It only made $200 million" poorly. Split outgrossed it on a $9 mil budget. Funny thing is that Transformers Animated had Autobot society (which had won for the war for Cybertron millennia ago with the Decepticons exiled to the fringes) basically something like that. And Mortal Kombat could go a few ways. Deadpool certainly shows you can go R rated and be a ridiculous comedy. Most of the people who care about Mortal Kombat are adults now anyway.
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It would be completely insane to make a PG-13 rated MK movie in a post Saw got eight theatrical releases and Hannibal aired on NBC world.
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Oct 20, 2018 03:30
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You can make an R-rated Mortal Kombat movie but you're going to have to sell it using more than just ultra violence. Cast or martial arts cred or humour or something.
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Lobok posted:You can make an R-rated Mortal Kombat movie but you're going to have to sell it using more than just ultra violence. Cast or martial arts cred or humour or something. Humor is the way to go with it.
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21 Muns posted:...do you think that an otherwise-hard-R-for-violence Mortal Kombat movie could get a PG-13 rating if they used the common video game censorship tactic of recoloring the blood and replacing the gore with something silly that's obviously a stand-in for gore? That'd really be something. from what I'm aware, this is quite literally what Alita: Battle Angel is doing in order to both keep the insane gore from the comic and nab a PG-13 the delays and the fact that it still doesn't have a pinned-down rating makes me think they might be waffling on whether to just make it a straight-up R, though; it'd be pretty simple to color-correct the blood back to red from (apparently) neon blue if necessary
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Vince MechMahon posted:Humor is the way to go with it. It's what makes MK 9 and X work, that's for sure. NRS did a really good job making the heroes a charming, funny group of people - even characters like Kotal Khan end up working as the comically serious straight men. And you could do a lot worse for a movie pitch than adapting MKX: the legions of hell are invading, and Earth's best hope is a squad consisting of a special forces general, a cyborg commando, an action movie star, a blind samurai with psychic powers, a young special forces officer, an Olympic kickboxer, a ninja, and a gay Shaolin monk. And in MKX, Johnny does have a nut punch brutality. Cythereal fucked around with this message at 04:06 on Oct 20, 2018 |
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Lobok posted:This is what my pirate wife says to me when I ask for sex.  Hahahahahahahaha
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HAHAHAHA YES I REMEMBERED RIGHT it's not the speed-bag thing but you literally nutshot someone so hard their eyes pop out like something out of Riki-Oh
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Neo Rasa posted:It would be completely insane to make a PG-13 rated MK movie in a post Saw got eight theatrical releases and Hannibal aired on NBC world. This is ridiculous, Venom broke the October record by 20 million with an audience that was only 36% over 25. They don’t need to make it R because you’re old and nostalgic.
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Enderzero posted:This is ridiculous, Venom broke the October record by 20 million with an audience that was only 36% over 25. They don’t need to make it R because you’re old and nostalgic. isn't Halloween projected to re-break that record as a very, very R-rated movie though e: basically what I'm saying is, a lot of this depends on the IP. if you have an IP with kid appeal (ie Venom), yeah, making it PG-13 makes sense and is probably the sane choice. but if you have an IP that specifically trades on R-rated content, or if you're doing an original IP in a genre that usually thrives on it (horror, action, comedy), you'd lose a lot more audience members than you'd actually gain by cutting to PG-13; kids either aren't going to give a poo poo or will be disallowed from seeing it anyways, and the adults who would have seen it had it been R will just be mad that you made it kiddy. being completely honest, I feel like PG-13 Deadpool 2 is gonna be the test of this; if it does particularly well and reviews come in like "the edits didn't hurt the movie at all!", we can probably say goodbye to wide-release non-horror R-rated movies, period. like, to the extent of stuff like John Wick 3 and Halloween 2 probably having mandated PG-13 ratings. WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 04:43 on Oct 20, 2018 |
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:isn't Halloween projected to re-break that record as a very, very R-rated movie though  Halloween is rated B15 in my country (that's 15 year olds can get in, younger people with their parents or an adult), it didn't even reach the C or D which is the "only adults" rating. Deadpool 1 was actually a C, Deadpool 2 got downgraded ,if I remember correctly. Movie theaters in my country probably don't wanna miss the sweet sweet money from teenagers.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:isn't Halloween projected to re-break that record as a very, very R-rated movie though No, though it’s looking like it will get second place all time. And of course It and Deadpool helped break the notion that R ratings automatically limit box office. I just think it’s silly to say MK must be R and use a network tv show as proof? You could make it PG-13 or R, who cares, just make something good first and foremost - that was the lesson, not “there’s been harder stuff released”. Edit: I agree with your edit. I’m think calling it completely insane to make a more widely available movie doesn’t make sense, unless doing that would work against the genre so hard that it makes the movie untenable. Enderzero fucked around with this message at 04:52 on Oct 20, 2018 |
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Desperado Bones posted:
 that... actually kind of surprises me. assuming you're talking about the 2018 one (I am) it's an 18+ basically everywhere else in the world and, having seen it, I'd say that's pretty justified, it's a loving brutal movie in parts.e: yeah, looking at IMDB, Australia, Mexico, Hong Kong and a couple provinces of Canada are the only places it's not 17/18+. oddly enough, in Quebec it's equivalent to a PG-13; Quebecois people must be pretty loving hardcore, I've seen similarly weirdly low ratings from there before. WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 04:48 on Oct 20, 2018 |
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Edit: ^^Holy poo poo Quebec, what the gently caress guys?LORD OF BOOTY posted:
Yeah. the 2018 one. I did a quick look at this movie theater monopoly's webpage, and yeah, it's a B15. I'm gonna have to endure a few families bringing their young children tomorrow, I suppose. I'm really not sure how or why, they managed to make it not R. (or who they offered tons of money).
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other movies that are PG-13 in Quebec: Hereditary, Upgrade, Pulp Fiction, Logan, Starship Troopers
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:HAHAHAHA YES I REMEMBERED RIGHT Cassie, Johnny's daughter, has a similar brutality where she nutshots someone so hard their head pops off. Her x-ray involves nutshotting someone hard enough that on a male character she visibly explodes their scrotum.
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Ratings systems are basically opaque bullshit everywhere. A lot of it is technicalities more than anything, I'm sure.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Ratings systems are basically opaque bullshit everywhere. A lot of it is technicalities more than anything, I'm sure. I've been poking at this a bit, and it seems like Quebec is just absurdly permissive compared to most of the world. Very few things get an 18+ rating there, and the vast majority of them are extreme gore flicks, contain graphic sexual violence, or both; the stuff that would usually be considered a hard R or NC-17 in America is 16+ (for examples, mother!, Mandy, Terrifier, and Hacksaw Ridge got this rating), and pretty much anything PG-13 or R that doesn't fit those categories is 13+.
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isn't the only reason anyone plays MK games is the absurd violence?
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CelticPredator posted:isn't the only reason anyone plays MK games is the absurd violence? no. It’s a real fighting game that has a low barrier to entry. MK9 the reboot was the best about this.
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CelticPredator posted:isn't the only reason anyone plays MK games is the absurd violence? not... not really. Mortal Kombat 9 and MKX are legit good fighting games from a mechanical standpoint, to the extent where SonicFox, one of the FGC's current top hotshots, pretty much made his name as a MK/Injustice player. it's also relatively simple on top of this, without a whole lot of hand-pretzel-making motions required for special moves or combos, making it a good "gateway game" for people who wanna get into competitive FGs. past that, there's a fuckton of single-player content compared to most fighters (what with the surprisingly good story mode and challenge towers and Krypt and all), meaning even if you don't care about the FGC at all it's probably got something for you provided you like fighters at all. like, to be completely honest, the gore is kind of starting to be a millstone around MK's neck, because... well, televised esports are starting to be a thing. Street Fighter V is a completely awful fighting game and it's basically eating NRS' lunch where this is concerned, because you basically can't show MKX on TV due to the gore actually being kinda disturbing and not just goofy, and Injustice likely requires licensing agreements with DC making that non-viable. e: also, on top of this, MK legitimately has a really fun story compared to most fighting game series (Tekken is the only one I'd say is better, and it's... less accessible). like, MK's cosmology is straight bonkers in really hilarious and awesome ways. WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 08:47 on Oct 20, 2018 |
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MK needs to bring back the alternate finishers, Hara-Kiri, Brutality, Animality, Friendship, the whole lot. Thing is that while gimmicky in gameplay once the novelty wears off, things like Fatalities are GREAT for a spectator sport.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:MK needs to bring back the alternate finishers, Hara-Kiri, Brutality, Animality, Friendship, the whole lot. Thing is that while gimmicky in gameplay once the novelty wears off, things like Fatalities are GREAT for a spectator sport. every character in X has 3 fatalities and like a billion Brutalities, which in the reboot canon, are basically mini-fatalities (like the Johnny Cage "punch their nuts so hard their eyes pop out" one). with the Alien DLC, in the variation that lets you summon facehuggers, you can get a Brutality that makes a chestburster pop out of the other guy... and if it's a character that wears a hat, the chestburster will also be wearing that hat so you can get a chestburster with a little Raiden hat  e: that's kind of the other thing that makes me unironically love MK, the games just have the absolute goofiest loving sense of humor and it works perfectly juxtaposed with all the brutal violence. like, honestly, if you made a completely accurate MK movie that gets both the gore and the tone right, it'd probably still get a PG-13 for the same reasons as, like, Drag Me To Hell; it's kind of hard to be disturbed by violence that's surrounded by idiosyncratic jokes. WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 08:55 on Oct 20, 2018 |
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Desperado Bones posted:Edit: ^^Holy poo poo Quebec, what the gently caress guys? It's rated as 15 here in Denmark, but that is partly because we don't have a higher rating. Also, if you're accompanied by an adult you can still get in to see it if you're under 15.
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The MSJ posted:That Playstation Classic coming in December better have Alien Trilogy. I wouldn't hold my breath for anything that isn't already on the PSN. It looks like the thing isn't even going to have analog sticks so that means no Ape Escape too
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:every character in X has 3 fatalities and like a billion Brutalities, which in the reboot canon, are basically mini-fatalities (like the Johnny Cage "punch their nuts so hard their eyes pop out" one). wait am I to believe this is a xeno-Raiden hybrid? Man prometheus dropped the ball
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Alan Smithee posted:wait am I to believe this is a xeno-Raiden hybrid? Man prometheus dropped the ball In the xenomorph's arcade mode ending, you also see a four-armed xenomorph from Goro or one of his buddies getting facehugged.
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even an R rated mortal kombat movie would have to be more restrained and toned down than the amount of psuedo-realistic violence the last couple of games have gotten to
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Remember that "gritty reboot" Mortal Kombat video where Baraka is a former plastic surgeon who flipped out, mutilated himself and implanted surgical blades in his forearms which he uses to decapitate Johnny Cage? That thing must be nearly 10 years old now.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Remember that "gritty reboot" Mortal Kombat video where Baraka is a former plastic surgeon who flipped out, mutilated himself and implanted surgical blades in his forearms which he uses to decapitate Johnny Cage? That thing must be nearly 10 years old now. It apparently had Michael Jai White as Jax http://mortalkombat.wikia.com/wiki/Mortal_Kombat:_Rebirth
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Wheat Loaf posted:Remember that "gritty reboot" Mortal Kombat video where Baraka is a former plastic surgeon who flipped out, mutilated himself and implanted surgical blades in his forearms which he uses to decapitate Johnny Cage? That thing must be nearly 10 years old now. I tried watching that, couldn't make it through the second episode. I imagine an MK movie would draw in crowds for the novelty of a western studio making a martial arts movie again.
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I never watched the series that came from it. My understanding was that it more or less abandoned the "grounded" aesthetic from the original short and went with the supernatural stuff from the games, i.e. Shang Tsung was an other-dimensional warlord rather than a corrupt businessman who funded unsanctioned underground MMA matches.
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Wheat Loaf posted:I never watched the series that came from it. My understanding was that it more or less abandoned the "grounded" aesthetic from the original short and went with the supernatural stuff from the games, i.e. Shang Tsung was an other-dimensional warlord rather than a corrupt businessman who funded unsanctioned underground MMA matches. Yeah it was just a low budget adaptation of the games.
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The modern Mortal Kombat games are extremely good, so it’s a shame that I gave up on MKX when it became clear that you’d need a spreadsheet to keep track of all its DLC.
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Vince MechMahon posted:Yeah it was just a low budget adaptation of the games. "Low budget Mortal Kombat" sounds extremely good to me, provided there is some creativity behind it. Of course I'd also love to see the MK version of Lord of the Rings in all it's glorious stupidity, but that seems to be a long way away.
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