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MrYenko posted:So has everyone else in basically the entire history of aviation. Counter-point: F-104 Ground Attack Edit Actually that's a bad example. Jonny Nox fucked around with this message at 06:23 on Oct 20, 2018 |
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Godholio posted:Citation needed. Fun fact, you can arrive at these conclusions without them being specifically declassified. There is public information on a lot of classified info. You just need to know what to look for and where to look. Obviously you'd never know unless it's verified by the government. Plus China knows more than I do about the F22 already. https://insidedefense.com/daily-news/pratt-whitney-says-it-could-deliver-new-f119-engine-late-2020 https://www.ziprecruiter.com/c/Unit...e9ec45f97469ec0 um excuse me fucked around with this message at 06:24 on Oct 20, 2018 |
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Jonny Nox posted:Counter-point: F-104 Ground Attack F-104 was excellent in the ground attack role on 0-1 targets.
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goatsestretchgoals posted:F-104 was excellent in the ground attack role on 0-1 targets. Should have been called the AGM-104.
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um excuse me posted:Fun fact, you can arrive at these conclusions without them being specifically declassified. There is public information on a lot of classified info. You just need to know what to look for and where to look. Obviously you'd never know unless it's verified by the government. Plus China knows more than I do about the F22 already. Don't be a dipshit. "They already knew the information I sold them" has been a weak sauce excuse several convicted spies have made. The secret service visits are bad enough, we don't need NCIX on Lowtax's case too.
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Well, poo poo - some bad news about those of us LEGO fans who were hoping the NASA SR-71 was going to get green-lit: https://ideas.lego.com/projects/a0a7940a-e575-420f-ace5-2b7bd3d962c7/official_comments#content_nav_tabs
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Well, poo poo - some bad news about those of us LEGO fans who were hoping the NASA SR-71 was going to get green-lit: https://ideas.lego.com/projects/a0a7940a-e575-420f-ace5-2b7bd3d962c7/official_comments#content_nav_tabs The maker can just sell plans easily. I would be happy with that.
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um excuse me posted:~snip~ "Wink wink, nudge nudge" is still pushing at the OPSEC rule and please don't take this edit personally. Think of it like discussing internet piracy- yeah we all know where internet movies live, but we don't talk about that here. More eyes than you think read this forum. E: Oh wow I am not in my forum and I need to read my PMs more carefully. Apologies to Adia for stepping on your dick 
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OTOH he might work for P&W and he asked his boss "hey am I allowed to talk about the f119 production restart on my dead gay internet forum?" and he got the all clear to do so.
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Oct 20, 2018 12:42
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Just lol if you don't put your Something Awful user name down as an alias on your SF86.
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Oct 20, 2018 13:19
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There has been some pretty good P+W stuff from him before It’d be a motherfucker if they really did restart 22 production and those engines aren’t just for replacements/spares. They’ll have to resource a whole bunch of weird 90s poo poo. Mazz fucked around with this message at 14:57 on Oct 20, 2018 |
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Oct 20, 2018 14:53
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Is anyone going to the Huntington Beach airshow tomorrow? Anyone been before who can let me know what to expect?
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Mazz posted:They’ll have to resource a whole bunch of weird 90s poo poo. Unless that's where the F-22/F-35 hybrid story is going. https://www.defenseone.com/business/2018/08/lockheed-pitching-f-22f-35-hybrid-us-air-force/150943/
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Finger Prince posted:OTOH he might work for P&W and he asked his boss "hey am I allowed to talk about the f119 production restart on my dead gay internet forum?" and he got the all clear to do so. So then don't even mention classification at all, just drop the news instead of "lol hey guyz check this out, omg I hope I don't go to jail!". In the current environment of revelation, disclosure, and subsequent jail time it's foolish to even look like you're near the line.
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Midjack posted:So then don't even mention classification at all, just drop the news instead of "lol hey guyz check this out, omg I hope I don't go to jail!". In the current environment of revelation, disclosure, and subsequent jail time it's foolish to even look like you're near the line. You sound like someone with intimate knowledge of the subject, like you hold classified clearance and are privvy to actual classified information, so should you even be discussing this?
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Finger Prince posted:Is anyone going to the Huntington Beach airshow tomorrow? Anyone been before who can let me know what to expect? I might be there, but I've never been before so I can't really tell you much.
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Finger Prince posted:You sound like someone with intimate knowledge of the subject, like you hold classified clearance and are privvy to actual classified information, so should you even be discussing this? It's almost as if I saw the name Reality Winner in a dream somewhere!
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Oct 20, 2018 17:41
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Lol I can't believe I have to say this but please don't disclose classified information or act like you may be potentially disclosing classified information to impress strangers on a dead gay forum.
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AdiaBOOtic posted:Lol I can't believe I have to say this but please don't disclose classified information or act like you may be potentially disclosing classified information to impress strangers on a dead gay forum. Were you there for when that guy did an effort post on America's nuke detector capabilities, then had his Air Force career ended because of it?
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Flikken posted:Were you there for when that guy did an effort post on America's nuke detector capabilities, then had his Air Force career ended because of it? This came up in another thread a few days ago, I didn't know he ended up killing himself over it
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If you don't have a clearance and nothing to lose, is it ok then? America is fighting lizard aliens in Antarctica and Trump is a benevolent distraction to avoid panic. Or are they..? 
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Ola posted:If you don't have a clearance and nothing to lose, is it ok then? I could tell you the truth, but it's classified.
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Some of the Things That Are Against The Rules if you have a security clearance: - confirming publicly available classified information (e.g. Wikileaks) - compiling disparate unclassified information to create a more detailed description of something - making fictitious claims about classified information or programs So if you did have a clearance you could indeed get in trouble for making an earnest claim that you have knowledge about a secret program of fighting lizard aliens in Antarctica. Probably not the highest thing on the priority list for the FBI to go after, but it's technically illegal. If you've never had a clearance and signed on the dotted line, yeah, I don't think there's really anything they can do to you. e: Cat Mattress posted:Unless that's where the F-22/F-35 hybrid story is going. Honestly, the more I think about it the less crazy that sounds. I'm sure Lockmart would still find a way to make it hellish, but it does gel with the "evolutionary not revolutionary" design philosophy for the next fighter program. Like, sure, it'll basically be a completely new airplane, but at least they can save themselves from having to reinvent every single system and piece of gear. Wingnut Ninja fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Oct 20, 2018 |
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Oct 20, 2018 19:29
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I think we should build the F-15X, because it's funny to imagine a fighter that can carry 22 sidewinders and fire them all like the Death Blossom
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I can neither confirm nor deny reptoid infiltration of the highest ranks of government and military 
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Im indifferent to the reptilian overlords as a general platform, but I'm a single issue "Protect our precious bodily fluids" voter.
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um excuse me posted:Fun fact, you can arrive at these conclusions without them being specifically declassified. There is public information on a lot of classified info. You just need to know what to look for and where to look. Obviously you'd never know unless it's verified by the government. Plus China knows more than I do about the F22 already. Everything you're saying to defend yourself is in every loving security briefing I've ever sat through as what NOT to do. Piecing together unclass/open source things to compile something that might be classified? Yeah. Don't do that. "They already know it." Don't do that either. Spitballing random stuff is one thing...presenting it as coming from a person with a position of authority (that whole "may or may not" thing) is a HUGE no-no. It's a security incident, at the very least, and it WILL cost a person their clearance. Finger Prince posted:OTOH he might work for P&W and he asked his boss "hey am I allowed to talk about the f119 production restart on my dead gay internet forum?" and he got the all clear to do so. OTOH that's not how that works (except that individual is an OCA, which is unlikely) and would open both of them up to investigation. The right way to do this would be to talk to the OCA or reference the security classification guide for the project/system in question. But we also know that's not how it happened. Godholio fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Oct 20, 2018 |
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AdiaBOOtic posted:Im indifferent to the reptilian overlords as a general platform, but I'm a single issue "Protect our precious bodily fluids" voter. Welcome to the John Birch Society, brother.
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Remanufacturing the F-22's airframe with updated engines and avionics strikes me as the most logical way forward, seeing as there's nothing on the horizon that competes with the F-22.
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Godholio posted:Everything you're saying to defend yourself is in every loving security briefing I've ever sat through as what NOT to do. Piecing together unclass/open source things to compile something that might be classified? Yeah. Don't do that. "They already know it." Don't do that either. You'd be speculating as much as I'd be speculating how it happened. How about "hey Jim, I hear they're looking for someone to head up the f119 production line restart. You gonna apply?"  "Nah, they make you sign all that classified poo poo on the military stuff and you know I can't keep my mouth shut.""hey guys I hear they may or may not be restarting the f119 production line but you didn't hear it from me, nudge nudge wink wink".None of the above was ever classified.
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Really doesn't need updated engines I'd think. Just need to build more of them, which apparently P&W is at least preparing to do.Godholio posted:OTOH that's not how that works (except that individual is an OCA, which is unlikely) and would open both of them up to investigation. The right way to do this would be to talk to the OCA or reference the security classification guide for the project/system in question. I'm hoping for his sake that he was just saying that to sound cool and does not hold a clearance; the only concern would be an NDA with P&W/UTC/whatever other subcontractor.
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Oct 20, 2018 21:17
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F22B will have VTOL, you heard it here first.
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Speaking of the F-119; that B-1R concept was based on those, are there any other batshit insane things that people have pitched with those engines? edit: X-32 doesn't count before anyone tries
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Oct 20, 2018 21:27
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Post the classified information you pussies
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aphid_licker posted:Post the classified information you pussies REDACTED Seriously, it’s absolutely amazing to me that the crypto equipment I used when I was on active duty, and only talked about in commo or mi shops is now out in open and searchable, if you know where to look. Syrian Lannister fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Oct 20, 2018 |
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Oct 20, 2018 22:39
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Crypto moves so fast that the NSA probably hopes people that shouldn’t use that stuff use it
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aphid_licker posted:Post the classified information you pussies 
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Humphreys posted:The maker can just sell plans easily. I would be happy with that. Yeah, but Lego would have tuned his original design to be nice, sleek, and super gorgeous with potentially custom pieces. Wingnut Ninja posted:If you've never had a clearance and signed on the dotted line, yeah, I don't think there's really anything they can do to you. I remember being told "if it gives you the slightest bit of pause before saying it, keep your goddamned mouth shut." I'm honestly surprised given the new climate of farming for likes and ~thumbs-ups~ that there haven't been more breaches just by dumbshits looking to  out.
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It’s not my image, and I don’t know where it came from. But 
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MrYenko posted:It’s not my image, and I don’t know where it came from. Okay, after staring at this for several minutes, I'll bite: what is -worthy about this pic? Unless it's just that it's a slick as hell FMS.
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