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Day 2 of the Everchosen is live. https://www.twitch.tv/totalwarofficial
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 15:10 |
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orangelex44 posted:Day 2 of the Everchosen is live. So Mammoths got buffed.
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 15:42 |
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Mordja posted:So Mammoths got buffed. https://clips.twitch.tv/GoldenObservantBasenjiSmoocherZ
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 16:19 |
Looking at taking another stab at this after putting it down for a long while. I remember there were a lot of issues with the Mortal Empires Big World Campaign back when -- did those get fixed up and is it worth playing now, or is the vortex campaign still the thing to play? Also still no way to re-load an old save from inside a combat is there Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Oct 21, 2018 |
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 16:37 |
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Looking at taking another stab at this after putting it down for a long while. I remember there were a lot of issues with the Mortal Empires Big World Campaign back when -- did those get fixed up and is it worth playing now, or is the vortex campaign still the thing to play? And yes, saving & loading is only done while on the campaign map.
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 17:02 |
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The only real issue with Mortal Empires is that end turn times can be slow. It's a lot of fun other than that, I think.
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 17:03 |
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As far back as I can remember, mid-battle saves and loads were never a thing in Total War.
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 17:07 |
toasterwarrior posted:As far back as I can remember, mid-battle saves and loads were never a thing in Total War. Yeah, I'd just like a "quick restart" so I can drop back to the beginning of the fight when I know I've screwed up :P
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 17:11 |
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John Charity Spring posted:The only real issue with Mortal Empires is that end turn times can be slow. It's a lot of fun other than that, I think. It's been a little while, but I believe some victory conditions could use a lot of work as well.
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 17:12 |
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On the topic of decent things from the end times: apparently Queek dies because Thorgrim himself dismounts his throne and personally strangles Queek, reciting grudges against Skaven and ending with all the grudges that require the taking of Queek Headtaker's head. Then he tells Queek's broken body to keep its head. I like Queek, but that's a badass moment. The last thing Queek hears is Thorgrim screaming in khazalid about the death of Belegar and the taking of Eight Peaks.
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 17:18 |
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drat Dirty Ape posted:It's been a little while, but I believe some victory conditions could use a lot of work as well. Oh yeah, definitely. The basic Mortal Empires victory conditions are such that I've never finished a single campaign with it, and I finished a whole bunch of TWW1 campaigns by comparison. But the campaign itself is a lot of fun and I think even playing factions that don't interact much with the new world is fun, because when it does intersect it's really novel.
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 17:22 |
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Tourney finals starting now.
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 17:56 |
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That Campire Coast gunline against the Empire. toasterwarrior posted:Death Globe Bombardiers are AoE, and they're goddamn terrifying. Poison Wind Globadiers don't throw AoE globes because Poison Wind Globes don't work like that; in lore, they're basically throwing acid at things, not grenades. Death Globes are more advanced versions of Poison Wind Globes that the Skaven have managed to stabilize so the acid disperses in an area but stays potent enough to kill poo poo. It's not acid, it's poison gas. Quite likely chlorine or similar, given the old WWI trick with the piss-soaked hankerchief works against it background-wise. Death Globes are background-wise just a better, more expensive version of it.
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 17:59 |
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Mordja posted:Tourney finals starting now. Is it really Empire vs VC right now? Shame.
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 18:00 |
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Mortal Empires is great, and the best way to justify the long turn times is to try to explore the world when you have the money to spare. Sending an army abroad, settling in a distant continent, and fighting races you never fight with the faction you are playing as can add a lot of variety to the game.
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 18:02 |
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Ravenfood posted:Is it really Empire vs VC right now? Shame. I dunno, that Aerocrastic guy played the Emps perfectly. Are they still considered pretty low-tier?
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 18:14 |
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Mordja posted:I dunno, that Aerocrastic guy played the Emps perfectly. Are they still considered pretty low-tier? No idea, but it was admittedly a fun match to watch. I was just hoping for some more VSea action.
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 18:17 |
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Ravenfood posted:Is it really Empire vs VC right now? Shame. Tlaxtan plays to win, and tends to pick strictly meta races. He didn't take VSea at all yesterday, for example - although to be fair he only played two games.
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 18:18 |
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Mordja posted:I dunno, that Aerocrastic guy played the Emps perfectly. Are they still considered pretty low-tier? They're considered pretty good but they have a really low skill floor and high ceiling, more than any other race they reward micro.
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 18:18 |
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Magni posted:It's not acid, it's poison gas. Quite likely chlorine or similar, given the old WWI trick with the piss-soaked hankerchief works against it background-wise. Death Globes are background-wise just a better, more expensive version of it. Man, I don't know what to tell you but the final army book has it working like it does in the game: a powerful ranged attack that only hits a single target. Poison Wind Mortars and Death Globes hit multiple targets because of size/quality. I'm saying it's like throwing acid at something, not punting a mustard gas bomb into a trench.
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 18:20 |
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Now Aerocrastic is taking in Skavens against DELFS. You go little dude.
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 18:25 |
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They mentioned briefly in yesterday's stream that a lot of the island maps are going to have a ton of water areas, so aquatic units should be good. I'd love to see Black Ark Corsairs get Aquatic, just to represent them being better at naval fights. Also, somewhat interestingly, that means that cavalry might be extra good for naval combat, which is kind of funny.
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 18:45 |
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toasterwarrior posted:Man, I don't know what to tell you but the final army book has it working like it does in the game: a powerful ranged attack that only hits a single target. Poison Wind Mortars and Death Globes hit multiple targets because of size/quality. I'm saying it's like throwing acid at something, not punting a mustard gas bomb into a trench. It was always fluffed as gas in the past, which is why they're named "Poison Wind Globadiers". They're glass orbs loaded with some kind of caustic gas that burns the skin and basically destroys your insides if you breathe it in. That's why all of them are wearing gas masks, which would be rather pointless if they were just splashing acid on things. They don't work like gas weapons should mechanically but they're definitely fluff-wise basically hucking mustard gas bombs. One of the wikis even has a helpful quote from Children of the Horned Rat: Some Grey Seer posted:"The delicate fingers of poison mist that drift across the battlefields of my brothers are birthed from the spheres that Skryre’s Globadiers fling. The fumes float with deadly beauty, seeking the lungs of our foes. Taking root within the enemy, the poison turns their breath into blood-froth, and death-death soon follows."
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 19:14 |
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This has been a really fun final round. Going into game 5, we'll have seen Skaven, Bretonnia, TSea, and now TK will be coming up in the final game.
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 19:31 |
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Mordja posted:Now Aerocrastic is taking in Skavens against DELFS. You go little dude. lowest tier army failed to beat highest tier, dream is dead
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 19:32 |
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Yeah, RIP. Tho it was actually fairly close.
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 19:33 |
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Tiler Kiwi posted:lowest tier army failed to beat highest tier, dream is dead He came drat close, to be fair. I wonder what, if anything, is tweaked for Skaven in the balance patch... the casters have done a pretty good job of giving some details but I'm sure there's a bunch of stuff that hasn't been mentioned yet.
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 19:33 |
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It actually wasn't close, despite what the announcers said. The skaven could have had three halberd stormvermin thrown in with them and it still would have been worthless versus the chariots.
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 19:35 |
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Hopefully there isn't such as long a wait between this DLC and the Rats/Sneks one, because they could really use some units and RORs that'll shore up their weaknesses.
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 19:35 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEZIh7lQ3dc
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 19:41 |
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Of *course* Tlaxtlan goes with a double Shaggoth Chaos build. No fun, that one. At least we're seeing Settra! edit: SETTRA DOES NOT SERVE orangelex44 fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Oct 21, 2018 |
# ? Oct 21, 2018 19:44 |
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orangelex44 posted:Of *course* Tlaxtlan goes with a double Shaggoth Chaos build. No fun, that one. At least we're seeing Settra!
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 19:54 |
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Tomb Kings build with absolutely no ushabti great bows and Chariot Settra tossing double Shaggoth Chaos in the dumpster. Holy poo poo 173 kills on chariot Settra against goddamn Chaos.
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 19:55 |
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I get how cool that is but really hope it doesn't make it into the game without all other l5 monsters getting buffs too
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 19:56 |
can someone link the match where queen bess got rolled out, i want to see how it does in action
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 19:57 |
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who win Kholek, a shagoth and little buddies or 1 gaudy statue
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 19:57 |
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Surprise Giraffe posted:I get how cool that is but really hope it doesn't make it into the game without all other l5 monsters getting buffs too There's other units that can do that right now. It was mostly just an absolutely perfect situation for that Mammoth, it charged directly along the long edge of the unit and hit all of them. I also suspect that the Depth Guard have relatively low HP per unit, because of their healing.
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 19:58 |
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Holy poo poo, Settra going Initial D on that Chaos army. President Ark posted:can someone link the match where queen bess got rolled out, i want to see how it does in action That's on yesterday's stream, relatively early on. Coast vs DE. Queen Bess blew up like 40% of the hp bar of a Dreadspear unit in one solid hit.
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 19:59 |
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Wasn't the double Necrotect build relatively common in the early Tomb Kings days? Settra on his chariot was a surprise, but healing a Necrosphinx is just a good idea. And in retrospect the Settra choice makes sense, to charge around and clean up random infantry while the fat, ever-healing monster kills the really dangerous stuff.
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 20:03 |
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Chariot Settra putting chaos in the dumpster makes me so happy. I'll need to watch these streams tomorrow since I've got poo poo to do tonight. I really want to see the coast in motion. Depth guard being essentially unmounted blood knights in their ability to wreck up the place makes me so happy.
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# ? Oct 21, 2018 23:32 |