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Sexpansion
Mar 22, 2003

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I think vel'koz support is incredibly annoying to play against if you're good at it. I imagine it works pretty well until you get into very high elos where you absolutely need the ability to buy a bunch of utility items.

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Elentor
Dec 14, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


9w 1l :toot:

kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005

Sexpansion posted:

I think vel'koz support is incredibly annoying to play against if you're good at it. I imagine it works pretty well until you get into very high elos where you absolutely need the ability to buy a bunch of utility items.

It works up to the Elo where your opponents are better at dodging skillshots than you are at hitting them.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug

Sexpansion posted:

I think vel'koz support is incredibly annoying to play against if you're good at it. I imagine it works pretty well until you get into very high elos where you absolutely need the ability to buy a bunch of utility items.

Yeah if you play him right the other lane will never, ever get close. He's kind of situational though and if you miss all his skills then like a good Leona would immediately be up in your poo poo to set up a double. He really had the same weaknesses as mid; he's made of wet paper and explodes instantly if you can get in his face and stay there.

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

ToxicSlurpee posted:

Yeah if you play him right the other lane will never, ever get close. He's kind of situational though and if you miss all his skills then like a good Leona would immediately be up in your poo poo to set up a double. He really had the same weaknesses as mid; he's made of wet paper and explodes instantly if you can get in his face and stay there.


I still occasionally reminisce over the glory days of Vel'Koz mid being sorta popular, when I could just jam AP Malphite and ride the gravy train all the way to their 20 minute surrender.

Schiavona
Oct 8, 2008

The Shortest Path posted:

I still occasionally reminisce over the glory days of Vel'Koz mid being sorta popular, when I could just jam AP Malphite and ride the gravy train all the way to their 20 minute surrender.

Deathfire Grasp AP malphite ruled. Same with AP Sion.

I wonder if trinity/Tiamat Leona would work in TT...

Super Librarian
Jan 4, 2005

The old build that I miss the most is AP mid, DFG Sejuani

Sexpansion
Mar 22, 2003

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mid sion with banner and zzrot was my favorite league cheese of all time

Slaapaav
Mar 3, 2006

by Azathoth
favorite league was wriggle procs giving turtle udyr unlimited mana

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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Pillbug
I miss the old infinite stacking of...whichever that augment was. The original yellow one? I had like 160 stacks as jungle Irelia one time.

It was...bad for the other team.

kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005

ToxicSlurpee posted:

I miss the old infinite stacking of...whichever that augment was. The original yellow one? I had like 160 stacks as jungle Irelia one time.

It was...bad for the other team.

No. No

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


lot of people telling on themselves with their open the gates nostalgia

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

Slaapaav posted:

favorite league was wriggle procs giving turtle udyr unlimited mana

:rip: Locket, you were too good for this crapsack world.

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat
Im happy that stacking BC is suboptimal but still a thing. I miss Essense Reaver Tryndamere. It was cool going from 0 cdr to like 30 cdr in one buy

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

GP10 item stacking was the real mvp. :rip: heart of gold

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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Pillbug

KirbyKhan posted:

Im happy that stacking BC is suboptimal but still a thing. I miss Essense Reaver Tryndamere. It was cool going from 0 cdr to like 30 cdr in one buy

It was before my time but wasn't there a point where picking Garen and then just building nothing but cleavers was hilariously overpowered?

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


that was a thing as recently as the bruiser rework or juggernaut rework or whenever the gently caress they massively buffed darius, five BC garen was a legitimate build then

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

ToxicSlurpee posted:

It was before my time but wasn't there a point where picking Garen and then just building nothing but cleavers was hilariously overpowered?

My good man, there was a point in the game where everyone built cleavers as first items. AD assassins mid, bruises top and ADCs.

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat

ToxicSlurpee posted:

It was before my time but wasn't there a point where picking Garen and then just building nothing but cleavers was hilariously overpowered?

It had everything he needed. Health, AD, CDR. It was a time before cdr was a unique passive, there were a couple builds that would stack feindish codexes or brutalizers (1337 gold nvr4get)

Invalid Validation
Jan 13, 2008




In beta the go to build for a lot of people was 6 sunfires cause they stacked.

Spokes
Jan 9, 2010

Thanks for a MONSTER of an avatar, Awful Survivor Mods!

Invalid Validation posted:

In beta the go to build for a lot of people was 6 sunfires cause they stacked.

funfire eve!

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

Multiple sunfire capes on perma-stealthed champions was awesome, but not quite as awesome as Shaco and his ult both with 6 sunfire capes.

kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005
For a more recent one, preseason Klepto sona is the most broken thing I can remember. That or rework Morde; no one WANTED to play it, but it was so braindead that someone would assume Morde Duty if it went through bans.

Transient People
Dec 22, 2011

"When a man thinketh on anything whatsoever, his next thought after is not altogether so casual as it seems to be. Not every thought to every thought succeeds indifferently."
- Thomas Hobbes, Leviathan

kingcobweb posted:

For a more recent one, preseason Klepto sona is the most broken thing I can remember. That or rework Morde; no one WANTED to play it, but it was so braindead that someone would assume Morde Duty if it went through bans.

I did want to play it

It was out of sheer character loyalty though, I used to play Morde long before he was good just because I super loved his aesthetics

He still really needs a proper rework IMO, thankfully he can't be that far away now that Nunu is finished

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

I deeply respect you as a human being... Some day I'm gonna make you *Mrs* Buck Turgidson!


Grimey Drawer
Remember preseason 4 top taric that poo poo was insane

Slaapaav
Mar 3, 2006

by Azathoth

Miftan posted:

GP10 item stacking was the real mvp. :rip: heart of gold

wriggle hog philo on every champion

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Slaapaav posted:

wriggle hog philo on every champion

Haha can you even imagine that anymore? I'm so glad games are now 30 minutes instead of 45+. Best change riot ever made.

fatal oopsie-daisy
Jul 30, 2007

by R. Guyovich

Transient People posted:

It was out of sheer character loyalty though, I used to play Morde long before he was good just because I super loved his aesthetics

da gently caress

fatal oopsie-daisy
Jul 30, 2007

by R. Guyovich

Dancer
May 23, 2011
For me one nostalgic thing is that brief period of time where rage-blade's charged up effect was a small aoe that procced echo jungle item, and smite mid ezreal was broken.

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011
Warwick when red smite was introduced and it did damage with every hit, he was the first champion to hit above 60% winrate because by level 6 he had a point and click stun ult that would do 600+ damage, most of which was true damage.

pog boyfriend
Jul 2, 2011

bring back old ap alistar. those fuckers made it fotm and took out the sheen mechanic and ruined my favourite character, i was playing alistar top and mid since season 2

Transient People
Dec 22, 2011

"When a man thinketh on anything whatsoever, his next thought after is not altogether so casual as it seems to be. Not every thought to every thought succeeds indifferently."
- Thomas Hobbes, Leviathan

fatal oopsie-daisy posted:

da gently caress

If you don't want to be a power metal evil overlord I don't even know you, that poo poo is rad

Sexpansion
Mar 22, 2003

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My favorite champ is Zed because he is, without doubt, a ninja

Catgirl Al Capone
Dec 15, 2007

Half of Dracula
Oct 24, 2008

Perhaps the same could be

yeah, ultimate, as in Last.

Remove All Invincible Ninja Samurais

kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005
https://twitter.com/loleu/status/1054786065641472002

Schiavona
Oct 8, 2008

Stefan Prodan posted:

Remember preseason 4 top taric that poo poo was insane

gently caress man I miss battle taric

Sexpansion
Mar 22, 2003

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I don't really understand what this is supposed to be but it's pretty cool.

Is it in the same line as the Dreadnova stuff? idk

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Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

They're really (war)hamming it up with these skins.

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