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"Hey, look, maybe the design won't be that bad. Some of this concept art looks...okay." Toei: gently caress YOU
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# ? Jun 10, 2024 20:50 |
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This is Bandai in this case, man. Kenji Watanabe designed her.
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Nodosaur posted:This is Bandai in this case, man. Kenji Watanabe designed her. Does it really matter?
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I suppose in the long run, no it doesn't.
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Diaboromon X looks a lot better in its full official art, it looks positively alien and the slightly transparent limbs are so good. It's a bit overdesigned but that's to be expected for an X Digimon and in general I actually like it quite a bit more now. Sakuyamon X somehow only got even worse and I feel it's even insulting for the fans of the original. It's such incredibly blatant fanservice with little else to it, ugh.
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well, I like parts of it. The new staff and the giant rear end foxes are pretty great.
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Sakuyamon X would be amazing if she just wore clothes. It almost makes it worse after seeing the concept art.
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Like Who is the demographic for this? Digimon, the card stuff, is largely aimed at kids right? 6-10? There hasn't been some ADULT Digimon sub division that I'm unaware of has there? It'd still be stupid, but if this was aimed at horny teenagers and/or older losers who want to oogle anime girls, whatever I get it. But Digimon is a kids franchise right? Who is this for? Though uh, I guess this one won't be able to give Ryu a power up by stripping.
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Digimon is primarily geared towards young adults and others which grew up with the franchise now. That's the course the franchise took after Xros Wars was a colossal bomb. That's why all the cards and virtual pet releases have been premium bandai releases that can only be afforded by people with a disposable income and ordered from their website or select retailers. This is why the video games have heavier plots geared more towards older gamers, as well. Part of the goal with Appmon was to create a new sub-division for the franchise that was kid oriented and didn't rely on the older Digimon stuff, which was skewing older. Habu-san has talked about this, and how while Super Xros Wars didn't do so well, most of its buyers were older fans instead of the kids it was marketed to.
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Yeah, Digimon just realized that children didn't care about it but adult fans were still into it, so there was a big shift towards that particular demographic. In and of itself, Digimon had tried to appeal to an older demographic since Savers, though that was still teenagers. It was with Re: Digitize and onwards that the series moved hard towards late-teens or young adults, the people that watched Adventure (that is, us). Tri followed the same steps by fully aiming towards that instead of children, with...uhh...mixed results. It should be noted, though, that usually Digimon appeals to adults through more subtle and darker writing, not...this. All of that said Digimon has been horribly fanservicey since way before that, but there's no doubt that there is some degree of that affecting even the older designs, like modern Angewomon stuff having clearly bigger breasts or this Sakuyamon X design. I'm not a fan.
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Gear it back to kids and release legal Appmon subs, Bandai.
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i realize sakuyamon x has literal nothing to do with tamers but it still irks me that design's being used for a character i was introduced to as being at least partly a preteen girl
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:Gear it back to kids and release legal Appmon subs, Bandai. Hell, I'd take a dub at the very least. I also wish they'd make another series that isn't a movie and/or has nothing to do with Adventure but I kind of doubt that's going to happen any time soon.
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The issue is that kids don't necessarily want Digimon as we know it. Appmon was a moderate success so if we get another kid targeted thing it'll be under the banner of the two tier system they have now.
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Fair, but it's also possible for them to do something geared towards older audiences without having to bank on nostalgia all the time. I just want to see something new from the anime side of the franchise, that's all.
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We'll see I guess. But it's always gonna be in the form of limited run stuff, not another regular series. EDIT - and while Sakuyamon is more blatantly sexualized, it's important to note that Fairymon and Shutumon's outfits are barely above undergarments and in the case of the latter, also includes freaking bondage gear. Nodosaur fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Oct 20, 2018 |
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Nodosaur posted:We'll see I guess. But it's always gonna be in the form of limited run stuff, not another regular series. Yeah, all three of those designs are awful.
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My point is that, unfortunately, not all of this is neccessarily new. It was even there when the series was kid friendly.
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They weren’t as top heavy though. They’re the same on paper but a pretty clear difference when you put the designs next to each other... Well, most of them, I guess. Anyway, I love everything about Sakuyamon X except for Sakuyamon herself. I wonder what’s up with the shadow versions of her baby form floating around. As for Diavolomon X, I’m kinda unsure how I feel. It’s still creepy, but I think the original edges it out. I like the eye attack and extendable shoulder arms from the concept art, and also its translucent limbs. It would probably look pretty cool animated... It’s a shame there’s a slim chance of that happening.
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https://twitter.com/gtmwd262/status/1053977401040920577?s=19 Omekamon Zwart D
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:https://twitter.com/gtmwd262/status/1053977401040920577?s=19 It's beautiful and should be canonized.
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nine-gear scarecrow posted:https://twitter.com/MagnoliaPearl/status/1057648008962211841
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https://twitter.com/bandai_digimon/status/1059642998357614592
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So what do these posts about SkullBaluchimon and MetalTyranomon X say?
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those are all digimon we know about https://twitter.com/bandai_digimon/status/1059346868197449728 their including Tokomon X with an actual profile is far more interesting
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drrockso20 posted:So what do these posts about SkullBaluchimon and MetalTyranomon X say? スカルバルキモン/完全体 アンデッド型 データ/感情や知性が無く、体内に張り巡らされた神経のデータだけで反射的に体を動かしているため、容赦も加減も無い攻撃を自らが動けなくなるまで繰り返す。デジコアより止め処なく溢れ出す黒い冷気は、どんなデジモンをも死の恐怖に陥れるという。 メタルティラノモンX抗体/完全体 サイボーグ型 ウィルス/改造されたデジモンの中で、“超高性能”とされるメタルグレイモンに比べ荒々しさは目立つが、地上での破壊活動は最高のパフォーマンスを誇る。獰猛性は凄まじい攻撃力へ変換され、改造内容が完全に引き出されている。
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it's just abridged versions of their actual profiles, which are on Wikimon
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I'm playing through Hacker's Memory now and I got to the LordKnightmon fight in Chapter 11. Honestly, I thought I was totally hosed, I had one Vaccine and my Digimon are really weak due to hitting level caps and having to devolve. But uhh...turns out she's really exploitable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_03D2oAPag
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No idea what is happening but is pretty cool https://twitter.com/nanao2_/status/1060233686845550592
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Nodosaur posted:it's just abridged versions of their actual profiles, which are on Wikimon Remember, most people here don't speak or read Japanese, and Google Translate doesn't do much more than slam down random attempts at words when half the text is made up terms to begin with. We need translations.
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I know that. I was offering an explanation and pointing people at where they can read them translated.
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Kurui Reiten posted:Remember, most people here don't speak or read Japanese, and Google Translate doesn't do much more than slam down random attempts at words when half the text is made up terms to begin with. We need translations. If something is wordy and redundant, there's no reason a general description can't suffice.
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So Kenji Watanabe was interviewed about the creation of Omegamon MM: https://withthewill.net/threads/20970 I personally would have used Omegamon X and which would in turn de-digivolve to the X-Antibody versions of Agumon and Gabumon when the did was done.
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:No idea what is happening but is pretty cool I would kill for that to be teh art style for Digimon Quadro
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Chimera-gui posted:So Kenji Watanabe was interviewed about the creation of Omegamon MM: https://withthewill.net/threads/20970 it really should have ended with an angemon super ultimate
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It should have ended with either some sort of fusion of all eight of the Megas. Something more than just Metal Garurumon and War Greymon. Or, considering early on they seemed to be handing out Megas in pairs, I was sort of hoping for them to just go "gently caress it" and make Omegamon-style fusions for each of the pairs. That kind of fell apart though, for obvious reasons.
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there's no way they would have used Omegamon X and turned Agumon and Gabumon into their X forms. They're not gonna change the appearance of two mascot characters that drastically and permanently and the whole point of Merciful Mode is to create a new version people hadn't seen before. Omegamon X is old news.
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Okay, but imagine the Vikemon/Rosemon fusion we could have gotten. And imagine the reaction from the people who get super invested in Digimon shipping.
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PMush Perfect posted:Okay, but imagine the Vikemon/Rosemon fusion we could have gotten. And imagine the reaction from the people who get super invested in Digimon shipping. Wouldn't that be Rosemon and Hercules Kabuterimon? Oh god that'd be an AMAZING Kamen Rider waiting to happen TOEI MAKE IT HAPPEN
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# ? Jun 10, 2024 20:50 |
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going by the premiere queue Tri used, it'd be Rosemon and Vikemon. And from there, Hououmon and Seraphimon and Holydramon and Rasielmon.
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