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DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

Guavanaut posted:

The allied forces used the handy color scheme created by the Nazis to reincarcerate all the LGBT people and 'asocials' immediately after selectively liberating the camps, so while it's obvious this guy has an agenda, I doubt Eisenhower cared either.

i had to reread this sentence a couple times because i kept reading "reincarcerate" as "reincarnate" and got really confused about Eisenhower leading a queer zombie army

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
They threw all the pink triangle detainees back in the horror prisons, and in some cases enforced the laws even more aggressively until the late 60s, in both East and West Germany.

It's a point of contention in gay history of how the figures are counted, because while the Allies obviously deserve credit as liberators of the Jews and Roma and some of the political prisoners, the persecution and forced labor of gay men in East and West Germany didn't much change between 1935 and 1965, so do you count that as part of the Holocaust figures, or as part of a wider European 'gay purge'?

On one hand it's important to remember that Hitler stoked up homophobia for his own purposes, on the other it's important to remember that the Allies as liberators were only for some groups.

Queer zombie army is a good idea though. We could get them to follow around Mike Pence.

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Guavanaut posted:

Queer zombie army is a good idea though. We could get them to follow around Mike Pence.

But why would they? Zombies are interested in brains.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Guavanaut posted:

They threw all the pink triangle detainees back in the horror prisons, and in some cases enforced the laws even more aggressively until the late 60s, in both East and West Germany.

It's a point of contention in gay history of how the figures are counted, because while the Allies obviously deserve credit as liberators of the Jews and Roma and some of the political prisoners, the persecution and forced labor of gay men in East and West Germany didn't much change between 1935 and 1965, so do you count that as part of the Holocaust figures, or as part of a wider European 'gay purge'?

On one hand it's important to remember that Hitler stoked up homophobia for his own purposes, on the other it's important to remember that the Allies as liberators were only for some groups.

Queer zombie army is a good idea though. We could get them to follow around Mike Pence.

Did the Red Army treat them differently?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Nope, but I'm counting them as part of the Allies here, as they were by that point. The only differences were that some types of political prisoners were treated better and others worse on liberation, and that East Germany decriminalized homosexuality slightly earlier than the West, but that's 1968 against 1969, so they don't really get points for that.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Got this in an email from one of my Trump loving uncles. I was kind of curious so I ended up looking up the guest, pretty nice of a Cato Institute fellow to let the laypeople know the truth about global warming.

quote:

The YouTube episode is called The Truth About Global Warming. There are many episodes under this heading but please see the one on Life Liberty & Levin.

Both these guys are very learned and Levin is the ertwier of several best sellers on constitution too., especially the guest. He has every possible degree including a PhD to be heard. Don't be afraid to hear anothet point of view. You can choose to be a blind follower but you have to choose to do so. Or listen, think and make up your mind about your own honsty to yourself.
DON'T BELIEVE A WORD. ONLY, READ EVERY WORD AND DECIDE FOR YOURSELF.

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

Ron Jeremy posted:

Did the Red Army treat them differently?

The Red Army's behavior as it conquered Nazi territory was, ah, poor.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Plus Stalin was not exactly a known progressive on LGBT rights.

Possibly the shoddiest effort on that front was France though. No sodomy laws pre-WWII since 1791, but brought them in with occupation and in Vichy France, then de Gaulle got rid of all the antisemitic laws in 1945, but they kept the newly implemented anti-gay laws on the books until 1981.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 5 days!
I always find it funny that these folks dismiss various sources as Fake News and the people that believe them as sheep, when they themselves show absolutely zero critical thinking or self reflection on any of the issues they speak out about.

Verisimilidude
Dec 20, 2006

Strike quick and hurry at him,
not caring to hit or miss.
So that you dishonor him before the judges



Panfilo posted:

I always find it funny that these folks dismiss various sources as Fake News and the people that believe them as sheep, when they themselves show absolutely zero critical thinking or self reflection on any of the issues they speak out about.

Literally 100% of rhetoric right wingers use is projection

The Macaroni
Dec 20, 2002
...it does nothing.

AnimeIsTrash posted:

Got this in an email from one of my Trump loving uncles. I was kind of curious so I ended up looking up the guest, pretty nice of a Cato Institute fellow to let the laypeople know the truth about global warming.
Every. Possible. Degree.

E-Tank
Aug 4, 2011
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article220462715.html

Some fuckwit thought it'd be clever for him to burn a bunch of books in protest of the local Gay Pride event. Of course the issue being that the books he burned were from the library, and not his to burn. He literally borrowed, and then burned them.

Now he's declaring he will 'never pay for them' so I guess he's going to end up going to jail for theft.

Almansor posted:

"Where they burn books, they will, in the end, burn human beings too."

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Checks out, all the books I would set fire to I would probably also set fire to the authors.

Crunch Buttsteak
Feb 26, 2007

You think reality is a circle of salt around my brain keeping witches out?

E-Tank posted:

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article220462715.html

Some fuckwit thought it'd be clever for him to burn a bunch of books in protest of the local Gay Pride event. Of course the issue being that the books he burned were from the library, and not his to burn. He literally borrowed, and then burned them.

Now he's declaring he will 'never pay for them' so I guess he's going to end up going to jail for theft.

Every right-wing Christian news source I've seen has been portraying this as a Strong Christian Warrior finally taking a stand against the Homosexual Agenda Juggernaut, so be prepared for a flood of "he's being persecuted for simply having Biblical beliefs :qq:" if he actually gets punished for anything.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
If only there was some Biblical commandment on whether or not you can steal things.

Ashcans
Jan 2, 2006

Let's do the space-time warp again!

You can't steal from a library, it's paid for with your tax dollars, so you're just taking back what you already paid for!

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Ashcans posted:

You can't steal from a library, it's paid for with your tax dollars, so you're just taking back what you already paid for!

Yeah but you’re denying other people the ability to also partake in public social goods, comrade.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug

E-Tank posted:

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article220462715.html

Some fuckwit thought it'd be clever for him to burn a bunch of books in protest of the local Gay Pride event. Of course the issue being that the books he burned were from the library, and not his to burn. He literally borrowed, and then burned them.

Now he's declaring he will 'never pay for them' so I guess he's going to end up going to jail for theft.

I don't think it's possible to be more spiteful and petty than that.

Bombadilillo
Feb 28, 2009

The dock really fucks a case or nerfing it.

Crunch Buttsteak posted:

Every right-wing Christian news source I've seen has been portraying this as a Strong Christian Warrior finally taking a stand against the Homosexual Agenda Juggernaut, so be prepared for a flood of "he's being persecuted for simply having Biblical beliefs :qq:" if he actually gets punished for anything.

Link?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

ToxicSlurpee posted:

I don't think it's possible to be more spiteful and petty than that.
They have their top right wing scientists working on it round the clock.

Crunch Buttsteak
Feb 26, 2007

You think reality is a circle of salt around my brain keeping witches out?

https://www.trunews.com/stream/small-iowa-town-confronts-lgbt-movement-head-on

The rest have been from Midwestern-based radio broadcasts framing it as "Well can you blame him, folks? They're coming after our kids!"

Bombadilillo
Feb 28, 2009

The dock really fucks a case or nerfing it.

Crunch Buttsteak posted:

https://www.trunews.com/stream/small-iowa-town-confronts-lgbt-movement-head-on

The rest have been from Midwestern-based radio broadcasts framing it as "Well can you blame him, folks? They're coming after our kids!"


quote:

“If we sit idly by much longer then how soon before another socialist Nazi political movement rises to capture such indignation and, again, lead confused common folk to their destruction? When the Erastian ecclesiastical cowards fail to act it has serious consequences. Meanwhile, the ‘Nazis’ over at Facebook just censored 800 conservative and libertarian groups last week by shutting down their community pages without real cause. They had fan pages of tens of millions of people. The ‘Nazis’ at Amazon are now starting to censure scholarly books for sale on their site, whose theology and history they don’t like. And in denying limited shelf space to the millions of other published books on the market, the Orange City library board itself, engages in a type of censoring. It’s telling, though, the books they do shelve.”

You're the nazi *burns books. **signs Indiana jones journal

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
"We should cut funding to public libraries and also public libraries should carry millions of books otherwise they're engaging in censorship."

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug
We should cut funding to public libraries so private libraries run by rich assholes who want to put their name on everything can dictate what books are allowed.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
While also believing that rich coastal elites are trying to censor what we can read.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011



:thunk:

Grimdude
Sep 25, 2006

It was a shame how he carried on
No way. Haha

Bobulus
Jan 28, 2007



A bunch of these on the theme of 'red wave'. Methinks someone is getting a little nervous...

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Still really, really weird to what I think is probably the entire rest of the world where red is the colour of the labour movement.

Ashcans
Jan 2, 2006

Let's do the space-time warp again!

It's even pretty weird in the US, because red was the accepted color of communism and applied to other left-wing groups on the political fringe for 50 years. Although I guess now we're getting on to 20 years of this allocation (oh god I'm old).

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Holy poo poo I just saw the loving punisher skull with the hairpiece.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Ashcans posted:

It's even pretty weird in the US, because red was the accepted color of communism and applied to other left-wing groups on the political fringe for 50 years. Although I guess now we're getting on to 20 years of this allocation (oh god I'm old).

It basically only dates back to the late ‘90s and most prominently Bush v. Gore and is entirely arbitrary based on maps CNN used iirc.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Bobulus posted:



A bunch of these on the theme of 'red wave'. Methinks someone is getting a little nervous...

Dienes
Nov 4, 2009

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College Slice

Bobulus posted:



A bunch of these on the theme of 'red wave'. Methinks someone is getting a little nervous...

Aren't Republicans currently leading in early voting?

Bombadilillo
Feb 28, 2009

The dock really fucks a case or nerfing it.

Dienes posted:

Aren't Republicans currently leading in early voting?

Goons in the politics zones are currently super dismissive of anything not supporting a huge liberal swing and I think setting themselves up for some disappointments...but also this is Chuds saying "nu-uh" to blue wave memes and trying to will it into existance.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Dienes posted:

Aren't Republicans currently leading in early voting?

No votes have been counted yet, so nobody knows, but traditionally high turnout favours Democrats (hence the GOP trying every trick in the book to drive down turnout, especially in poor/minority areas).

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Bobulus posted:



A bunch of these on the theme of 'red wave'. Methinks someone is getting a little nervous...

If your pee is red see a doctor.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I also enjoy that the foreshortening gives trump massive hands.

Crunch Buttsteak
Feb 26, 2007

You think reality is a circle of salt around my brain keeping witches out?

Bombadilillo posted:

Goons in the politics zones are currently super dismissive of anything not supporting a huge liberal swing and I think setting themselves up for some disappointments...but also this is Chuds saying "nu-uh" to blue wave memes and trying to will it into existance.

Yeah, while it's important to keep your expectations tempered, Republicans are knee-deep in desperate demoralization tactics now. Their main goal isn't to actually trumpet a cause or appeal to moderates, it's just to convince Democrat voters that it's pointless and that they should stay home. It's why a lot of places will report the race tightening in the weeks before the election (and I'm no scholar, but I'd have to assume that happens with most American elections) as "Huge Republican surge at the polls!" with a giant chyron saying "RED WAVE INCOMING?!" on-screen. It's also why internet chuds are hitting that stupid NPC meme so hard, and why just about every radio personality I've heard has responded to the attempted bombings of Democrats with "Look, even if it ISN'T a false flag, this is why the left needs to stop protesting and saying mean things about Trump!"

Well, it's that, and in the likely event that their side loses, they won't have to pivot as hard when they inevitably go the "Democrats stole the election, they illegally stopped the red wave!" route.

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Defenestration
Aug 10, 2006

"It wasn't my fault that my first unconscious thought turned out to be-"
"Jesus, kid, what?"
"That something smelled delicious!"


Grimey Drawer
https://twitter.com/ChrisCaesar/status/1055602801395617792?s=19

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