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Styles Bitchley posted:I dunno the last couple of games I've seen Matthew Stafford do some Roethlisberger plays where he just stands there and throws while dudes are basically inches away all around him. Scared the hell out of me, and not sure I'd call those clean pockets. But whatever works. Just refreshing to see the o-line stiffen up and even push people on running plays. Well you have to imagine that the new QB safety rules are also helping just enough that if they are better at run blocking then pass blocking then there's a buffer of confusion that benefits us.
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Styles Bitchley posted:Pretty impressed when the Good Lions show up but looking at the remaining schedule if they don't put that out consistently they'll be lucky to make 8-8. A lot of division games in the final stretch. I think they can beat the bears either once or twice. The Vikings either 0 or 1 times and Green Bay we'll say is a 50/50 game at best. They can definitely beat out-of-division Arizona and Buffalo, with the Seahawks as a "maybe/probably" and the Rams as a "no". That would give a best-case scenario of 10-6 (not super likely in my opinion) and a worst case of 6-10. 8-8 is definitely a likely landing spot. The quest to make the cutoff for the playoffs is still an extremely even race, there are about 12 teams that are in position to try to go to the playoffs and only three that are really eliminated. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the Lions were able to get a wildcard spot but they'll have to earn it. Dropping early games against worse opponents (49ers, Jets) is not helping them in this situation.
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Fenrir posted:KC? SKULL.GIF posted:You mean LA? Look, there's only two good teams in the league this year, can you blame him for getting them mixed up?
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Now that I think of it, it would be pretty hilarious if the tie resulted in Minnesota winning the division, Green Bay taking the wildcard spot and Detroit missing the playoffs by half a game.
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Flikken posted:Yes, because sliding no longer counts as giving yourself up now too! The browns don't have Tom Brady or Ben Roethlisberger at QB. So it doesn't count. I thought you knew this?
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BGrifter posted:Now that I think of it, it would be pretty hilarious if the tie resulted in Minnesota winning the division, Green Bay taking the wildcard spot and Detroit missing the playoffs by half a game.  It would be the most Lions thing that could happen this year. The line looks good, they find a run game, they beat some good teams... and it doesn't matter.
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Talking about the Lions' offensive line: https://twitter.com/Brickwallblitz/status/1054886403321069569 Also, does Houston even have an offensive line? 
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https://twitter.com/Vikings/status/1054858329078431744?s=20 https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1054834419826114560?s=20 Good news, but waiting to see extent of injuries.
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Oct 24, 2018 03:18
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Lions just got the run stopping monster dt snacks Harrison for a 5th. He's also under control through 2020. This is a steal. Though they still have no DE until Ansah comes back.
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Oct 24, 2018 14:01
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I don't know much about him but I like the play, the willingness to make trades to shore up clear weaknesses.
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Comfortador posted:I don't know much about him but I like the play, the willingness to make trades to shore up clear weaknesses. It's an amazing trade. From what I've seen he's one of the top players in the league at what he does (stopping the run), and is under a reasonable contract until 2020. Quinn hit a home run with this move.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:It's an amazing trade. From what I've seen he's one of the top players in the league at what he does (stopping the run), and is under a reasonable contract until 2020. Quinn hit a home run with this move. And if he doesn't pan out he can be cut with no dead money.
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Scipiotik posted:And if he doesn't pan out he can be cut with no dead money. The 5th was also the extra we got from the 49ers for sending Tomlinson their way. Unless the dude suddenly implodes, this is a fantastic deal.
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With the post from the other day about the Packers in the red zone, here's some analysis (and a bit of history) on the upcoming Rams game... https://shepherdexpress.com/sports/packers/a-familiar-packers-and-rams-matchup/ quote:In the 2001 playoffs, an aging, once great Packer team ran into a buzz saw. The 1999 Rams came out of nowhere to win the Super Bowl behind NFL legend Dick Vermeil, and the offense had yet to slow down. The 2001 version, led by Vermeil protege Mike Martz, led the league in scoring by nearly 100 points over their next closest follower with 503, and the paltry 390 put up by Mike Sherman’s Packers wasn’t even in the same ballpark. The Rams ranked 5th in defense that season, just edging a pretty good Packer defense, which finished 8th. quote:The modern Rams present a similar challenge to that 2001 team. They lead the league in scoring, again by a large margin, with 235 points. They run an innovative offense with a forward-thinking coach in the brilliant Sean McVay, one of the league’s best receivers in Brandin Cooks and by far the best running back in the league. While Jared Goff is no Kurt Warner, he executes McVay’s game plan brilliantly, and Goff’s understanding of McVay’s philosophy generates more wide open receivers than almost any other team. When was the last time you saw the Packers hit a play this long and this open?
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I’m going to look forward to the Rams pasting Greenbay and laying Rogers on his rear end over and over again. I’m not sure how the Vikings/Saints are going to go. As much as I want the Vikings to win I think the Saints chip on their shoulder will have them playing way more aggressive that the Vikings will anticipate.
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SKULL.GIF posted:With the post from the other day about the Packers in the red zone, here's some analysis (and a bit of history) on the upcoming Rams game... That playoff game against the Rams is still to this day the only NFL game I have ever attended.
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Excelsiortothemax posted:I’m going to look forward to the Rams pasting Greenbay and laying Rogers on his rear end over and over again. I'm hesitantly picking the Vikings only because it's at home. That game is a total tossup.
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Scipiotik posted:Lions just got the run stopping monster dt snacks Harrison for a 5th. He's also under control through 2020. This is a steal. Though they still have no DE until Ansah comes back. This is a huge get for the Lions. I don't think I like the idea of them learning how to run the ball and stop the run.
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Oct 24, 2018 19:44
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Sataere posted:This is a huge get for the Lions. I don't think I like the idea of them learning how to run the ball and stop the run. I think the Lions have a somewhat decent chance to nab a wild-card spot, although their schedule is pretty hard from here on out. After their week 1 shellacking by the Jets who would've thought they'd be able to come so far
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I wrote off the Lions in week 1 and swore that I wasn't gonna get excited no matter what happened, but it turns out I'm a loving liar.
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No idea who this guy is but anybody named Snacks is okay by me.
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VJeff posted:No idea who this guy is but anybody named Snacks is okay by me. he owns:  
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Chester’s Hot Fries are a God Tier snack. I like this guy, already.
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https://twitter.com/AyeyoKEJO/status/1055210778209538048
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Still looking for the catch to that Snacks trade. He's only 29 and Lions pay <$5mil this year, $6.75mil next year, and $9mil in 2020. He's not too old, still consistently productive, and not a huge cap hit. I would think any team that could use a DT would give up a third or fourth or better for him.
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giants filled him to the brim with bees and on the first play of their next game after initial impact on the line he's going to explode, harming several lions and seahawks
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rabidsquid posted:giants filled him to the brim with bees and on the first play of their next game after initial impact on the line he's going to explode, harming several lions and seahawks Well, still better than most of the trades Millen made.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Well, still better than most of the trades Millen made. lol
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Apples McGrind posted:I wrote off the Lions in week 1 and swore that I wasn't gonna get excited no matter what happened, but it turns out I'm a loving liar. They can't just destroy you once. The power of the lions is they keep bringing you back for more pain.
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It's nice getting drunk, trashing the house and going to sleep at 5pm less than 50% of your NFL sundays.
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AsInHowe posted:The great thing about the Lions is that either they win and it's like you found money you didn't thin was there, or they lose early enough in the day that you can spend the rest of the day doing something productive. And generally, they'll find one or two new and inventive ways to lose every year! zero-second hail mary on a facemask that didn't happen, lookin' at you ten second runoff Calvin Johnson caught it, at least it hosed the cowboys over later that year
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Styles Bitchley posted:Still looking for the catch to that Snacks trade. He's only 29 and Lions pay <$5mil this year, $6.75mil next year, and $9mil in 2020. That catch is that it's a passing league but he doesn't really rush the passer well. He's a very specific piece that the Giants at least did not use on third down. So he's only in the game to stop the run, although who knows if that's exactly how the Lions will use him. Finally, his contract isn't as small as it could be. That money coming due is primarily why he was traded in the first place. With all of this in mind, I personally still think it was a great trade. But this helps to explain why they managed to nab him for a 5th rounder.
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Play posted:That catch is that it's a passing league but he doesn't really rush the passer well. He's a very specific piece that the Giants at least did not use on third down. So he's only in the game to stop the run, although who knows if that's exactly how the Lions will use him. Finally, his contract isn't as small as it could be. That money coming due is primarily why he was traded in the first place. Is he really that bad at rushing the passer? He might not get sacks, but I remember seeing him constantly collapse the pocket before he got paid.
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Sataere posted:Is he really that bad at rushing the passer? He might not get sacks, but I remember seeing him constantly collapse the pocket before he got paid. If he stuffs the run, then we've freed up Jarrad Davis to fling himself at the QB until he doesn't woefully overshoot them
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Sataere posted:Is he really that bad at rushing the passer? He might not get sacks, but I remember seeing him constantly collapse the pocket before he got paid. He's not completely useless but he's bad enough that he was never on the field in passing situations for the Giants. He can collapse the pocket but his primary role is being that two-gap, clogging run-stuffer that just creates havoc and blows up inside runs. He has one QB hit this year and zero sacks, but if the Lions expand his role it's possible that picks up. It's hard to sack the quarterback on a run play after all. He can collapse the pocket a bit but his biggest talent is just refusing to be moved and taking on double teams.
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Yeah maybe Giants just thought his utility was too limited for what they wanted in a DT. But for a fifth.... I think that type of defensive player is just what Patricia likes, having a toolbox of guys to scheme up in packages. On that note Jarrad Davis had his best game ever against Miami, and was about the highest rated LB for the entire week. It looks like these guys are finally either learning to play or the staff has figured out strengths and weaknesses and put players in the best position to succeed. Will be interesting if they keep Davis as a spy on Russell Wilson this week. I think he can run him down. Making the tackle once he gets there is another thing.
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Play posted:He's not completely useless but he's bad enough that he was never on the field in passing situations for the Giants. He can collapse the pocket but his primary role is being that two-gap, clogging run-stuffer that just creates havoc and blows up inside runs. He has one QB hit this year and zero sacks, but if the Lions expand his role it's possible that picks up. It's hard to sack the quarterback on a run play after all. He can collapse the pocket a bit but his biggest talent is just refusing to be moved and taking on double teams. forgive me for being british and dumb, but if he's assaulting a two gap doesn't that mean he's occupying to opposing o-linemen, so the rest of the d-line are in straight 1 on 1s? I mean, I am probably being dumb but I am willing to learn to be less dumb
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:forgive me for being british and dumb, but if he's assaulting a two gap doesn't that mean he's occupying to opposing o-linemen, so the rest of the d-line are in straight 1 on 1s? I mean, I am probably being dumb but I am willing to learn to be less dumb No worries. I'm pretty sure Damon Harrison is a nose tackle, which is usually one of if not the largest man on the field. That means he usually lines up in the 0 technique which is head up over the center (as opposed to shaded to one side or the other, or across from the guard/tackle). The nose tackle's job in the middle of the defense is to guard BOTH A gaps, which are the gaps on either side of the center. So on run plays, the center will engage him to make the block (or he'll be double-teamed by the center and a guard) and it's his job to hold that block without giving ground and be prepared to guard both gaps on either side of the center. He would be the only player on the defense that is responsible for two gaps. Whether he's being double-teamed or not isn't as important as the gaps, but if he is double teamed it's still his job to absorb the blocks, guard the gaps and try to prevent the guard from successfully double teaming him and moving up to the next level of the defense. I'm not sure if I've explained this that well but the nose tackle is a special position only found in 3-4 defenses and is not the exact same thing as a defensive tackle. It's basically a position that is only designed to stop runs up the middle and absorb blocks without being moved.
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