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jaegerx posted:Wait. Why is pxe involved in this now? That’s like 2 levels up. Just imagine me with a rake and it will all make sense.
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Methanar posted:Just imagine me with a rake and it will all make sense. do you just punch yourself in the dick in the bathrooms now?
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I work from home m8
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Methanar posted:I work from home m8 Describe the smell.
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I am going to be very salty if we've been long-conned again, like that guy who claimed to have been promoted to Security Jihadist and ordered to install spyware on his coworker's computers. And then started asking what a "Microsoft AD Directory" was and how legal it was to keylog everything everyone does.
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Docjowles posted:I am going to be very salty if we've been long-conned again, like that guy who claimed to have been promoted to Security Jihadist and ordered to install spyware on his coworker's computers. And then started asking what a "Microsoft AD Directory" was and how legal it was to keylog everything everyone does.
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Methanar posted:Because according to systemd it might have maybe been a contributing factor to why some pxe boot stuff wasn't coming up. Just hear me out okay. I promise you its Nvidia's fault.
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don't need pxe when your poo poo's in the cloud my dude juuust sayin
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We are having some truly insane connectivity issues and they are almost certainly not the same but I am very interested to know what the cause of his were.
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abigserve posted:don't need pxe when your poo poo's in the cloud my dude Yeah pxe is a network thing, and now that the cloud is here, well, you know.
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Sepist posted:Our open concept floor plan is becoming even more open concept. No assigned desks, managers dont get offices. Wait until people ignore it and go to their usual desk and management then puts numbers on desk and forces you to grab a number from a hat to get your desk.
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Wasn't aware you could even spec wireless connections in a server
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I have a devops team of 10. 4 of them were hired as devops people and are paid as such. 1 was promoted because he is brilliant and wasted in QA. The other 5 were a mix of current sysadmins or sysadmins we hired to turn into devops people. Of course all 6 of the non-original dev-ops guys are paid middle range sys admin salaries in the 80-90k region while the rest are 110-130. I am losing 3 as they have found companies to pay them what they are worth. I am probably going to lose the other 3 sometime in the next 2 months. All could have been kept by just paying them the market rate. We could have realized the savings of paying them under market for their time being brought up to speed and trained on our systems. Just the money spent to find and onboard new people is going to make the money spent on raises a trivial squabble. The cherry on this poo poo Sundae is that I just got out of the company leadership meeting where I was asked why we are losing so many on this team so abruptly. I now have a meeting my calendar with the vp of HR for "retention strategies".
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Retention strategy: Pay people what they are worth.
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Sickening posted:I now have a meeting my calendar with the vp of HR for "retention strategies". Strategy One - pay people market rate for positions Strategy Two - See Strategy One e: ^^ FB; 
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Sickening posted:I have a devops team of 10. 4 of them were hired as devops people and are paid as such. 1 was promoted because he is brilliant and wasted in QA. The other 5 were a mix of current sysadmins or sysadmins we hired to turn into devops people. Of course all 6 of the non-original dev-ops guys are paid middle range sys admin salaries in the 80-90k region while the rest are 110-130. Just print out your post from a bit ago and slide it across the table in the meeting with HR. Sickening posted:Being a director and fighting with senior leadership about IT salaries is frustrating. Even when our plan works, we sabotage ourselves with greed.
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Sickening posted:I have a devops team of 10. 4 of them were hired as devops people and are paid as such. 1 was promoted because he is brilliant and wasted in QA. The other 5 were a mix of current sysadmins or sysadmins we hired to turn into devops people. Of course all 6 of the non-original dev-ops guys are paid middle range sys admin salaries in the 80-90k region while the rest are 110-130. The people who leave will poach some of your devops, and they will leave because they don't want to deal with doing double the work while the new positions are being filled and trained and the constant turnover.
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lampey posted:The people who leave will poach some of your devops, and they will leave because they don't want to deal with doing double the work while the new positions are being filled and trained and the constant turnover. Yeah when I left my job to my current I poached a shitton as an added gently caress you for not paying me.
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Thanks Ants posted:Wasn't aware you could even spec wireless connections in a server Hello from MSP land, where half the time you walk in to a new site the "server" is just whichever PC had the most disk space or was being used by the person in charge of whatever the server is relating to. I've mostly been able to win them over to at least using one of the "Optiplex-badged-as-Poweredge" type boxes but still have a few out there where a NUC would be a legitimate improvement.
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You mean you haven't run Exchange 2003 off of a laptop with a "DO NOT POWER OFF" label on it?
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Vargatron posted:You mean you haven't run Exchange 2003 off of a laptop with a "DO NOT POWER OFF" label on it?
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Aunt Beth posted:Wasn’t this Methanar, and wasn’t it Notes? Yeah, I think that's when he had that System and Landscape Administration job
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Vargatron posted:You mean you haven't run Exchange 2003 off of a laptop with a "DO NOT POWER OFF" label on it? We run the SAP system for a major international restaurant chain and the application server for it runs on an old HP desktop in our server room labeled "DO NOT TURN OFF." Until a couple years ago the database server was another desktop with a few drives in it.
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Kashuno posted:We run the SAP system for a major international restaurant chain and the application server for it runs on an old HP desktop in our server room labeled "DO NOT TURN OFF." Is there any particular reason why this wasn't P2V'd ages ago?
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Nuclearmonkee posted:Is there any particular reason why this wasn't P2V'd ages ago? Their SAP instance is R/3 4.6. At some point in the past they bought licensing for ECC and were going to take over the ERP and host it on their systems, but then they never did so it has just been left in weird limbo. The database is virtualized but for a lot of 'office politic' reasons I can't actually just virtualize their app server without approval from them It's bad and also dumb
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Vargatron posted:I hate servers. That's all there is to it. Same. In the cloud, or out of it.
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Dell seems really lovely since they went private. I'm trying to extend a warranty for a client that has resulted in a multi-day affair between the dell rep and the extended warranty team where they keep handing me quotes that are just wrong. Like, a quote for three year warranty extension that magically became two years while they were fixing some other issue with it. Getting the rep to go back to get the warranty team to fix it has taken 48 hours so far. If I didn't think they were just terrible I'd assume they were trying to short change me a year in some kind of scam because the quote was otherwise identical to the first one.
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They have been absolutely awful. The decline certainly didn't start when they went private, but it sure as hell hasn't gotten any better. Unfortunately, HP or IBM isn't any better.
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We had a Dell rep hassle us to buy direct rather than just using their Premier site to get a price and then buying it from somewhere else. I agreed to take him up on his offer and he then spent three weeks failing to get an account set up so we could place orders direct and get invoices for them. Always let a VAR take the strain, it's worth the tiny price difference and you might end up with a rep that sticks around for longer than two weeks.
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Thanks Ants posted:We had a Dell rep hassle us to buy direct rather than just using their Premier site to get a price and then buying it from somewhere else. I agreed to take him up on his offer and he then spent three weeks failing to get an account set up so we could place orders direct and get invoices for them. Yup. Learned that lesson a few years back. It's such a joke. I always use a VAR now. I'll pay extra to not have to jump through those stupid hoops to beg a quote out of a company. Looking at you Dell, Mellanox, every storage company ever.
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I think we went through a Dell rep about once a quarter at my previous job. I just assumed that entry level sales was high turnover anyway.
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All big company reps are terrible forever. I find that the exceptions to this are rare.
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Sickening posted:I now have a meeting my calendar with the vp of HR for "retention strategies". Make the retention function return true immediately.
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Should be a quick meeting. "Pay more".
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lampey posted:The people who leave will poach some of your devops, and they will leave because they don't want to deal with doing double the work while the new positions are being filled and trained and the constant turnover. Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuupppp. Turnover comes in bursts for a reason. You honestly might be able to salvage this if they, like, pay more right loving now. But I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Internet Explorer posted:They have been absolutely awful. The decline certainly didn't start when they went private, but it sure as hell hasn't gotten any better. Unfortunately, HP or IBM isn't any better. HP's gear has been getting better over the last few years. The Elitebook 840/850 G5s are nicely specced machines that are really easy to work on. Unfortunately their business practices still suck. Just recently I got a machine (840 G2) in that was having weird sleep issues, would end up really hot after being shut down normally and taken home, it would run super hot and spin the fans all day. I checked it out and discovered that the battery was starting to swell. I put a new one in and the machine is behaving itself now. HP denied the warranty claim on the battery, probably because their crappy diagnostics passed it as good so no fault code. We paid for the super duper extended warranty, specifically including batteries. We escalated that to our Swiss Overlords; when you have upwards of 100,000 users vendors try and keep you sweet. Also,  Unless a backordered LCD panel comes in tomorrow I have done my last repair on this team. Monday I start with the lab systems support team, so Friday will be an in-office vacation day.
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Speaking of turnover: our operations department massively underpays most of its employees. They had two of their best people quit, one of whom had 20ish years of institutional knowledge and was the sole person who knew the ins and outs of so many loving systems, who spent months saying "I can't continue to be the only person doing these things" while a bunch of their far-less-competent people did the bare minimum to not get fired. Then, we poached another one of their best people who was new-ish (8 months) because when he asked for more money (on the basis of taking on a bunch of extra responsibility that wasn't part of his job at the start) they just jerked him around with "maybes" and "we'll talk about its," we had an opening, and we aren't hemorrhaging people. Then, another one of their best people applied for a position in another department, and when asked what they could do to keep her, told them "pay me more," and was told "well, we can't do that!" But they will definitely manage to maintain all of the people interested in a low, steady paycheck who don't want to do much work. Truly, the model all departments can hope to follow.
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We started keeping spare new laptops on hand for the first time mostly because of changes at Dell resulting in orders unpredictably taking longer to fill, but also because of savings from bigger bulk orders, overall growth in the customer base, and more standardization in what we order. It shouldn't take weeks to get an account setup or 48 hours to change a quote, but sometimes you get stuck with a bad rep. Still works better for us than HP Lenovo or Panasonic.
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As much as my boss is trying to offer me what he can, this week he confided in me that he realizes the real strain on the IT department is that the Operations department literally doesn’t exist outside of the warehouse because our COO is so insufferable to work for that IT has been basically forced to be both IT and Ops, and that if that side of the business doesn’t get poo poo together he’s worried all of the IT department will quit very soon. He’s not wrong.
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