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AecTalek posted:Narika, Chloe, Ellie
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Chloe, Narika, Ellie as for Serina's outfit, Normal.
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Oct 22, 2018 04:01
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Maybe I need to recite the MST3K mantra to myself, but... The reason they've begun shifting on their asses waiting for a Protagonist is the lack of Ether in rubber circles. But that only applies to the special magic child-soldiers they're training here doesn't it? The conventional military should be entirely unencumbered. Send a few thousand men in with pike and shot / crossbows and halberds / railguns and power armor (I'm not entirely clear on the tech level of this setting) and cleanse the labyrinth room by room.
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Oct 22, 2018 04:14
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The Lone Badger posted:Maybe I need to recite the MST3K mantra to myself, but... You're assuming they can hurt Dusk creatures with physical weaponry. There is no particular reason to think they can, given that all our weapons use Star Energy. Even if they can, that doesn't destroy the Dusk energy so the Dusk Circles will just create more monsters.
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Oct 22, 2018 04:22
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The Lone Badger posted:Maybe I need to recite the MST3K mantra to myself, but... It applies to everyone, not just the star children. Although, an image of a bunch of people standing outside of the circle, all firing weapons into the circle would be awesome.
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Oct 22, 2018 04:24
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Narika, Ellie, Fuuko
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Oct 22, 2018 04:57
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The Lone Badger posted:Maybe I need to recite the MST3K mantra to myself, but... I was going to get into this discussion when we get to the CG shot I briefly mentioned, but since someone is asking now: To sum it up, it is very vague as to how effectively monsters can be fought and/or what kind of weapons can harm them. Monsters existed before this whole Dusk Circle ordeal, and Star God only started with the Star Brand thing 20 years ago when the Circles appeared. It's safe to say that fighting monsters was completely possible without boosted star energy. This means that regular weapons presumably work on them. Wake just uses a regular rear end sword in the forest battle after all, and that cuts through them with ease. We'll also see that Alec uses a regular sword in much the same way. You also have to remember that Ether/Star Energy supposedly exists in a lot of people. The Star Brand is just a booster that amplifies it. That's my understanding of it anyway. It's suggested that some disciples keep fighting monsters even after their Brand is gone. Finally, we have your idea of sending people in to the Circles. The are several problems with that. First of all, the circles are apparently giant. The one we see locked down in Fort City isn't active, so it only looks small and easily contained. As more of the circles become active, you would likely need millions of soldiers on permanent suppression to stay on top of them all. Second, the Circles just spawn more monsters, and the one that is responsible for it is nestled deep within the Labyrinth and also revives whenever killed. The monsters are formed from a naturally occurring element of the world. The monsters have essentially infinite resources, people do not. Finally, the Circles can also fire out monster nests potentially hundreds of kilometers away. The technology level of this world is a little weirdly defined, but they don't appear to have fighter jets or missile defence systems to be able to shoot those down. Here's how I picture that plan going down. If you have ever seen the third Matrix movie (first of all, I'm sorry), recall the scene where all the stupid open cockpit robots are standing in a circle just dumping gunfire towards a bottleneck. That worked for a little while, but the machines eventually got through. When they did, attention was diverted to taking those out, which took pressure off the center and allowed more to get through. Eventually the whole line fell apart and it was complete chaos. That's how I would imagine things going in this world. As for clearing room by room, Mark told us that Labyrinths are constantly shifting mazes. The layout is always moving around. It isn't really possible to clear it room by room. Even in gameplay you can't do this, as monsters will eventually respawn in rooms that you have cleared out. You are correct about ether in that the protagonist is the savior since he can make Star Energy work inside of them. Remember, magic can only be used with Star Energy, which requires Ether to circulate. That means Star Children and Magic are a no go in the Circles without the portable Ether generator that is our hero. Psycho Knight fucked around with this message at 13:35 on Oct 22, 2018 |
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Based on how this kind of thing generally works, I would assume you need Star Energy to actually kill the monsters, but not necessarily a lot. Possibly you could physically hack one apart with a sword using no Star Energy at all but they'd reform like Asmodeus did. Anyways even if you can kill the monsters the Dusk Circle will just keep making more so there's no point in trying to sweep it without a way to seal it; better to besiege it from outside where magic works.
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~Bonding Focus (Catching up with Chloe/Vote Results)~ - No lyrical titles for these. I don't want to use up any good ones that I might want for later. Voting is finished, and the thread has declared that Fuuko and Serina will be taking the bench. For those of you that wanted to see more of their stories, don't worry, I will be going over every route during my character analysis at the end of the LP. You'll get to find out what happens. 1.  This actually surprised me a bit considering the reaction to her combat suit. The thread apparently doesn't hold that against her though, as she took the top spot. Since Chloe took 1st, she is going to sit out this dungeon and join Wake for the Chapter 3 dungeon instead. This might seem a little bit backwards, but dungeons get longer each chapter, so it seemed more appropriate for Chloe to get the bigger one. 2.  Speaking of being surprised, I didn't think Narika would win a spot either, let alone take 2nd place. Well, that's a lie. I did kind of expect it I suppose. I was giving her 50/50 odds with Fuuko. I definitely didn't think she'd come in second though. Nevertheless, the thread has decided that they want to keep giving her a chance to build up some confidence in herself. Alternatively, people could just be interested in that whole 'Strategy Conference' deal. Narika took 2nd, but she won't be joining Wake for this dungeon either. She already got to go with him during a story dungeon, so instead she'll be going with Wake on a special little expedition to Blue Garden, which is a sub-labyrinth. More on that later. 3.  Ellie is the one I had complete faith in the thread choosing, although it is a major surprise to see her sitting 3rd. I thought for sure she would take the top spot, easily. She kind of has an unfair advantage over the other girls since she starts building curiosity and mystery before you're even able to start her route. Either way, the thread wants answers to the lingering questions surrounding her connection to Wake, as well as her work for the Church. Although Ellie came in 3rd, she will be Wake's partner for the Gluttony Labyrinth (the one we are about to enter), since Narika already had a turn in a story dungeon. So here you have the heroines that the thread voted to keep in the spotlight. A few notes on these results for anyone who is curious: -As stated above, you'll still get to find out what goes on in Fuuko and Serina's routes, one way or another. Chapter 7 is the cut-off point for bonding, so if the thread is somehow not digging two or three of the focus heroines, then I may give these two a chance to come back. If not, then their routes will still be getting a summary when I do a character analysis at the end of the LP. -Chloe, Narika, and Ellie will be getting bonding updates all the way to the start of Chapter 4. -Torri (who we have already met) will join the group in Chapter 3. I'll give her the typical Meet-and-Greet/Classmating/Intro Event treatment. Our final party member joins in Chapter 4, and she'll get all the usual pomp and circumstance as well. -Chapter 4 will be the point where I hold a new vote. The thread can vote for Torri/Final Member, and you might be able to vote for Serina and Fuuko again. I still need to work out the details. The general idea will be that the thread will get a chance to swap in Torri/Final Member if they feel that those two are more interesting than Chloe/Narika/Ellie. With all of that out of the way, we have some catching up to do. We have only seen the first event for each of the heroines so far, which only gives us a peek at where their routes are going. The next three updates will focus on the individual heroines up to their second Bond Gauge bar. The bonding bar (and by extension, new events) are gated by the story, so we can only advance up to that point until we make it to Chapter 3. -2nd-Year Classroom- Let's get the ball rolling on Chloe, since she was voted top of the class.   Can you go see my sister right now? That's an odd request coming from the Gatekeeper. What's your game, Chlotz?Can you ask her to put in a request for comics at the school store? I know she's got a lot of connections... Maybe she'd be able to make it happen. That doesn't sound like something you need to send a messenger for. Why not just ask her yourself? It seems pretty harmless. No way. Not gonna happen. She'd never listen to me. But I'm sure she'd listen to you.So whenever I'm within 100 feet of your sister then it's all "Hands off of her!", but when you're trying to leverage me to your benefit then it's totally fine? Sorry, I don't like being used. That's been happening constantly since I got here. Plus, you want me to go and talk to her. It's no fun when you aren't getting indignant about it. Fine, fine! Just stop whining about it. You're sucking all the fun out of a situation that I should honestly be trying to wring for all it's worth. I'll ask her. Just don't go getting your hopes up. Man, you are my own personal hero. I owe you big time! Oh, and don't even mention my name. She'll get pissed at me if she finds out.Yeah, yeah.(Dammit, Chlotz. I should have been savoring every second of that conversation, but you had to go and get all pathetic with that "I'm begging you" crap. Can't even let me have this.)-Faculty Office-  Is something wrong? Not really. Listen, stupid question, but are you busy right now? Yeah, a little bit. Though you did come here to talk to me, right? Go on.Here's the thing, could you ask the school store to please start carrying comics?What kind of comics?Ah, that's right. I never asked about that. Crap.  What? No, there was no discussion about--Ahah! I get it. I didn't take you for the type. You're not listening to-- But that's a no-can-do. Listen, I understand you have some intense feelings for these comic book girls. But there's a time and a place for it, and the Academy is neither the time nor place. You understand that, right? Okay, first of all, I do not have "intense feelings" for any comic book girls. I read those purely for transformation related research purposes.Second, that's not the kind I was asking for. There's been a misunderstanding.Oh, thank goodness. I must have jumped the gun on the "growing up" speech.Although, maybe it would still be a good idea to--I do not need the "growing up speech", Chloe. Trust me, I know plenty about how--...ignore that. It's not important. Back on topic.So can we get some comics in the school store or not? Comics... Hmmmmm... AHHHHHH. I get it now. This isn't coming from you, is it? Chlotz asked you to talk to me, didn't he? (As funny as pinning this on Narika would be, I like her, and that's really mean spirited and kind of works against my whole 'make her not terrified' plan. Fuuko would probably just get huffy, or be weirdly into it? Hard to tell with her. I'd rather not intentionally provoke interactions with Serina.)(Besides, Chlotz almost made me look like some weird pervert, asking a teacher to get porn stocked in the school store. Code of silence, violated.)Yeah, it's Chlotz.Just as I thought. I knew you'd never ask me to get you dirty comic books.If I wanted those, I'm pretty sure I know a money-grubbing little merchant that could get me them.What was that?Nothing. So, Chlotz, am I right?*sigh* He's kind of a troublemaker, isn't he? Maybe I'm just too soft on him. What do you think?Oh, I couldn't agree more.Oh, dear. Now look where we are. I'm asking you for help. Some teacher I am.Chloe, you're a great teacher, and you go several steps beyond. You need someone to talk to about your problems, as much as those Disciples do.I guess you're right. Thank you, I feel a little better now. Is it alright if we can talk like this again?Hey, I told you that I'm a listening kind of guy, didn't I? Of course we can.That's the attitude I like to hear! Oh, I'm just over the moon with joy!And do me a favor: tell Chlotz to come to me himself if he wants comic books. I'm his sister for goodness sake. You'd think he'd be brave enough to talk to me.You got it, teach.By the way, out of morbid curiosity, what would you do if he did come to you asking for dirty comic books? You better watch out or you might end up catching it too.Messaged received. I'll pass that along.Almost seems like Chlotz was intentionally trying to make Wake look bad in front of his sister in order to ruin his chances with her. However, that would require a level of sinister brilliance that I don't believe Chlotz possesses. We'd be giving him way too much credit. Before we continue, we need to bring Chloe in for another round of Classmating. You sometimes need to trigger these before you can advance the route. -Ritual Hall- You ready, Chloe?......Something wrong? Classmating...You seem kind of out of it. We can take five and try again some other time if you want.N-No, I'm fine. I was just remembering the first time we did this. And then I began to feel a little fuzzy inside. My heart was racing and I still feel a little lingering anxiety.Might want to get that checked out. Anyway, let me have your hand.Was it like this last time, too? Chloe doesn't necessarily have the stats to get us this class, but I wanted to introduce new ones that I have been picking up. The Witch class is a female-only Star Child that is a little bit of an upgrade over the Magician. You can see that it has all the same stats, but the difference is in skills. Witches learn higher tiered Element Spells (Witches can learn Triad skills, as opposed to Dual skills that Magicians learn). A lot of the 'upgraded' classes work like this. They have the same stats as the lower variant, but their skills are better or different in some way.  The other difference is that the Witch class is one that requires a special item in order to make. In this case, you need a Magical Girl Heart, which I guess you can get by tracking down Ichigo Momomiya and just Mortal Kombat-ing her. These are consumable, so the one I have right now will only let me make one Witch. Magical Girl Heart can be picked up in Sealed Tomb, which is one of the Sub-Labyrinths you get access to in chapter 2. You can steal them on the second and third floors of the dungeon from Bootes and Booteles (those goofy looking standard enemies that swing swords). Stealing them with the Thief class is your best bet. They CAN drop them, but it is incredibly rare. We'll talk more about stealing and the Sealed Tomb in Narika's bonding update, since that is where I'm going to point out Sub-Labyrinths. For now, I just wanted to highlight that we have another class to choose from. I haven't decided yet when the next Team Vote will be, so I'll just introduce new classes as they become available. .....Chloe? Chloe! Snap out of it.Huh? It's already done? I'm sorry. I should be the one guiding you along. I am your teacher after all.Don't worry about it. This went a lot better than last time. I didn't see any charts this time.Really? That's such a relief.Next time I will do even better. Maybe I'll even teach you a thing or two. See you later!*Chloe leaves* I like the sound of that.With Classmating out of the way, we're back to our regularly scheduled program. -Faculty Office- Hey Chloe, you in?  B-But...[Female Disciple A]: Chloe, we'd give you the shirts off our backs. Wouldn't you do the same for us? This is all happening too quickly. I don't know if I can handle it.[Female Disciple A]: But we have to hurry. We don't have any time left. We can't wait much longer, but we'll give you a little while to think it over. [Female Disciple C]: We have to go get ready. We're counting on you! W-Wait! They're already gone... Oh, dear. What am I going to do?You just got Narika'd, didn't you? They were talking you into something.Hm? Oh, hello. I didn't see you come in. Honestly, I'm wondering what I should do.I guess you could say that it's flattering that they rely on you so much. They obviously think highly of you.That's true, but still...What exactly did they ask you to do, anyway?Those Disciples were from the Choir Club. They perform concerts for the benefit of all those who were injured in battle.I feel the Choir Club provides a special service. They inspire us with music. In fact, one of their concerts is scheduled for after school today.Unfortunately, their lead vocalist was hospitalized after a fierce battle.That's why they came to me. They wanted me to be their lead vocalist for the concert.Today? That's not really giving you much notice. Why did they rush to you? Apparently a few of them thought very highly of my singing.Everyone seems so excited about the concert. Maybe I should... What do you think?Well, I do think you shouldn't be letting them walk all over you. On the other hand, I think I'd really like hearing you sing. I'm sure everyone else would like it too.I don't want to let all those Disciples down. Maybe I should give it a try. The show must go on, right?It's your call in the end. If you want to do it though, then you'll have me in the crowd to cheer you on.-School Rooftop- [Male Disciple B]: We apologize for the delay, everyone. Thank you all for waiting! The Choir Club concert is about to begin! And... As a special treat... Ms. Chloe shall be providing the lead vocals!  Once again, there is technically a panty shot here, but the text box obscures it pretty well. Should be fine. WHOOOOO! You go, Sis! Hey, come on man, if I can't hear you, how can she?Oh, sure. Let me just scream in your ear then. *clears throat* BRING THE ACADEMY DOWN, MS. CHLOE! Oww! Turn it down like one notch, man!*grin* Thanks. Alright. Heya everybody! I'm gonna sing my heart out, so you'd better be ready![Female Disciple A]: One, two... One, two, three! Yaaaaaay![Female Disciple B]: *shriek* Chloe, you're the BEST! Well isn't she just nailing it.She's always been like that. If she puts her mind to it, she can do it.*One completely sick concert later. It was awesome, too bad you guys missed it* [Male Disciple A]: Ms. Chloe's concert was way too awesome. [Male Disciple C]: I never thought I'd say this, but I actually feel better after that concert. [Male Disciple B]: Me too, I don't feel as tired now. I hope she sings at another concert. [Male Disciple C]: Man, next concert I'm gonna sit in front. Hey, does the Choir Club have groupies? Wow, they're really pumped up... I guess my sister has that effect on people.  That includes you.Still pissed about the comics thing, huh? You know drat well I am.Hey... Be honest, how did I do?I thought it was great. Really brought a tear to my eye.Thank you. That means a lot coming from you. The Choir Club loved my performance. They asked if I'd sing again in the future. I must have still been giddy from the concert, because I said "yes" right away.Well, as long as you're happy.[Female Disciple B]: Come on, Chloe! Everyone's waiting. Well, if you'll excuse me. I have a wrap party to attend.So now Chloe is on her way to becoming an Idol, on top of her mountain of teacher work and pre-existing swarm of rabid Disciple fans. Good call Ms. Chloe. -Faculty Office- Hey Chloe, are you in?Huh, guess not. That's kind of weird. I'm here to see Chloe. What of it? The Academy is a place for studying as a Disciple. Not for fanboying. Being the God's Gift doesn't mean you get special treatment. Besides, she's not here.I'm gettin' real sick of you assholes saying that. Your survival is in my hands, so you had best watch your drat mouth.Are you looking to get expelled, Mr. Archus?Are you looking to get bisected? Because I can make that happen with a flick of my wrist. Now, I suggest this conversation stop here......Agreed. Hm?[PA System]: You Disciples fight on the front lines, so let's ease things up on the home front! Chloe Genus coming to you live, a special DJ to bring you peace of mind! Is that Chloe? What's she doing acting as a DJ?This is disgraceful. When they asked her to be a DJ, she should have refused.Before going over to the battle report, let's hype you up with a bouncy beat! This one's called "Starlight Serenade." Hit it!Ugh, I hate Top 40 stuff. When it's Top 40 anyway. Give it like a decade and a half and then it becomes awesome. I don't care if she is a genius, she is expected to comport herself as such. I must remind her of the dignity and integrity inherent in her position.You're dangerously close to reminding me of a person I hate. I'm gonna go. You have fun reciting the dictionary.-Hallway-  Thank you for listening.Oh, hey. Were you listening to my first broadcast too?Of course I was.(It was being broadcast over the PA System. How could I not?)Thanks! I was hoping you'd hear it. I was a bit nervous, but I don't think I made any mistakes.I didn't notice anything. You sounded great.Really? That means a lot coming from you.Hm? Hey, do you hear something? Sounds like a stampede. [Female Disciple B]: Can I have your autograph? My little brother is a huge fan! [Male Disciple C]: Can I shake your hand? Your voice makes me feel so much better!  *shriek* Everyone! Please, one at a time!Alright, everyone back off a bit. Stay out of my personal space.*Crowd proceeds to mosh pit Wake and Chloe, squeezing them together* Ahhhhh!Dammit! Can't...get...free...I can't breathe... That was my bad! I don't really have control over anything at the moment!Wah, no, no, no. Just keep your hands away!I don't really have any choice in the matter! And that means you too, Wake!I can't believe I'm saying this, but you saved me Chlotz.*phew* I thought I was a goner.Ms. Chloe. Oh, Mr. Watts.How dare you cause such a racket in these hallways which are supposed to remain QUIET. And what, as a teacher of Disciples, do you make of this sort of rabble-rousing?I apologize for the disturbance. I'll make sure it doesn't happen again. Understood...Man... What a dick.Right? What is with everyone in this city going on insane power trips?No, he's right. I was being careless.Don't start with that. It wasn't your fault. Don't go beating yourself up.You're right... Thank you.And with that, we have caught up with Chloe's bonding events. Her bonding gauge is now maxed out until we hit Chapter 3. So her story arc is on pause for the time being. You can still do generic bonding events with her though, which is handy for getting BP. You can easily just max one or two heroines, skip the generic event, rest, then repeat to get a bunch of BP without missing any unique events. Then you can go and make all sorts of Star Children. It's also a good chance to give accessory gifts. You won't get the extra BP from them, but you can open up a bunch of equip options.  Like so. What do you think? Festive? I'll show off all the accessories I can as we go go through the game (we'll have a special one to display by the end of the Narika's update). You guys can let me know if you think one of them might look good on a certain heroine. Next time, we catch up with Narika. She'll get roped into a Strategy Conference and be introduced to her very own  'rival', just like Chloe! Except Narika's rival doesn't so much lecture her as she does poo poo all over our poor Saint Brave, for no good reason. It's gonna be fun!
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Psycho Knight posted:
She's 18. Maybe you shouldn't hold her to your old guy standards  .
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BlazeEmblem posted:She's 18. Maybe you shouldn't hold her to your old guy standards "I used to be with it, but then they changed what *it* was. Now what I'm with isn't *it*, and what's *it* seems weird and scary to me. It'll happen to you..." I'd shop his head onto Abe Simpson if the art styles weren't so vastly different (and I had any art assets of Mr. Watts to use other than that little cut-in icon and a database bust). Psycho Knight fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Oct 24, 2018 |
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Didn't expect this direction for Chloe. I'm okay with this, especially since she seems to love the opportunity to do something different. That rear end in a top hat teacher needs to bounce though. If only "Punch the prick" was an option when you run into him...
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I think Choltz sent Wake to ask about comics because he has an unrealistically high opinion of Wake's ability and desire to persuade Chloe to stock dirty comics. Chloe apparently got both siblings' share of coolness.
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~Bonding Focus (Catching with Narika)~ Narika came in 2nd place in the vote, so she'll be next. Before we get started on any of that however, we have a slight pest to take care of.  In the spirit of Halloween, we're going on a bear hunt in order to beat the crap out of that little Monokuma bastard.  As mentioned previously, Monokuma Strikes is a quest that was originally DLC for Conception 2. It is a crossover with another Spike Chunsoft franchise called Danganronpa. Once again, user TheMcD is currently doing an SSLP of Ultra Despair Girls Danganronpa, so if you're interested in the Danganronpa series then I suggest taking a look at that. But we're playing Conception 2, not Danganronpa. So let's get this little crossover pest out of the way. We get 20,000g if we can beat him, as well as an item called 'Monokuma Badge'.  Monokuma Strikes can be completed in the Sub-Labyrinth 'Blue Garden' and you can check the quest details when selecting the labyrinth (That little yellow warning diamond). The second Dusk Circle opens up two Sub-Labyrinths that can be explored. Sub-Labyrinths are extra dungeons you can farm for items and experience, as well as specialty items. The Magical Girl Heart item needed to make the Witch class Star Child can be obtained in the second Sub-Labyrinth 'Sealed Tomb'. You steal them from a group of Bootes/Booteles enemies on floors 2 and 3 using the Thief class skill 'Pickpocket'. Or you get incredibly lucky and they just drop one when defeated. The enemies are the same as these other Labyrinths, and the 'Boss' of the Sub-Labyrinth is just a later game enemy being thrown at us early.  Namely, these dudes. Chlotz will chime in and give you a generic warning not to take these monsters lightly, but they aren't really any threat. There's only two of them and they only have access to two low level element skills.  Like most enemies in this game, ganging up and beating the poo poo out of one at a time is the optimal strategy. If you can take the enemies in Sealed Tomb on, then you can destroy these guys.  That's it for Sealed Tomb. You'll want to keep it in mind for the Witch Class Items, but that's the only noteworthy thing. I don't even have any quests currently available in this place. But enough of that. Let's power-up.  Cast in the name of Star God, ye not guilty! BIG-O! SHOWTIME! Not bad. I could get used to that. That second part sounds a little off though. Do I really have to say this? It's much longer than last time...It'll be fine. I'm not going to make you say it every time. I'm just work-shopping some options at the moment. It would really help me out. Just think of this as speech practice.O-Okay, I'll try.  Key of the Star with powers burning bright, reveal the staff and shine your light! Release! Oh, that's good. I have a feeling it might be more fitting on Ellie though, since she has that staff. I'll talk her into giving it a try. Alright, you guys all remember what we discussed last night, right? It'll be your turn once we get into a battle.   Yes, father!Off we go! Team A(wful) is still with us for this dungeon, along with Team B which is composed of Baki, Meryl, and Yumi. Team B is more appropriately leveled now, so they'll be a helpful contribution. Before we go any farther, I want to point out that I'm still hamstringing myself. I have an entire team slot sitting unused, and a bunch of extra Star Children that could easily fill it. Keep that in mind when I start talking about getting a decent challenge from Monokuma. Music: Dungeon Battle 2 - Latter Half  There isn't a lot of stuff to say about Sub-Labyrinths. All extra dungeons are really just color swapped variants of the main dungeons. Blue Garden contains all the same enemies you have been dealing with up to now, with a heavy focus on these Bootes/Booteles groups. FYI, this is what it looks like when you use 'Enemy Search' item or the 'Dusk Analysis' skill. You can see what enemies are what before battling them.  I need to point something out though. I didn't notice at first, but the game tutorial doesn't really give you a look at how the battlefield is laid out. This is essentially what you're looking at in terms of an overhead view. There are 9 'circles'. Enemies can occupy the center of these circles while allies can occupy the four zones around each circle. Something to keep in mind as you're looking at this. Let's use the circle in the top left as an example for this next part. Imagine that there is an enemy in that circle all by themselves, and you and your team are beating on an enemy in the circle to the right of that one. The enemy in the top left cannot move into that circle on the right because an enemy already occupies it. However, if you have one of your teams in the left green zone of the top middle circle, then the enemy in the top left circle will be able to hit them in the back. It's something you need to watch out for when you are ganging up on a single enemy. If an enemy that isn't being targeted can't take a swing at you, then they'll either resort to casting magic or they will start moving to another angle one circle at a time (enemies can only move one circle at a time. Allies can only move to a circle that an enemy occupies, but in exchange they don't have to waste turns moving, they can just snap to anywhere on the field that there is an enemy.)  This group of enemies is an important one in Blue Garden. Specifically, the group of 2 Bootes and 1 Booteles. They show up on the later floors and there is a lower leveled group that consists of the same enemies. You want to keep an eye out for the group that is made up entirely of Lv. 13 enemies. Unfortunately, you can't tell this at a glance, you need to initiate a battle in order to check their info.  This group of enemies sometimes carries the item 'Mercenary Manual', which is a Class Item needed to create the Mercenary Star Child. They do drop those items rarely, but that relies too much on RNG that isn't in your favour. The method you should be using to obtain these is by employing a Thief with the skill 'Pickpocket'.  Pickpocket is like Mug in Final Fantasy, it has a chance to steal an item and also does a bit of damage. If you want to improve your stealing odds, create a full team of Thief class Star Children and get them to level 10. Using 'Pickpocket' then gives them triple the chance of stealing, and a Thief team also gets a Team Skill that boosts item drops. If you REALLY want to jack up your odds, then create 3 teams of Thieves and get them all to least level 10. You'll have a total of 9 Thieves trying to steal items while also boosting the drop rate. This makes it much easier to farm the Class items. Just keep in mind that you can only steal one of these per encounter, to my knowledge.  Also while we're here, there is a special action that I haven't shown off yet that was mentioned ages ago. Alright, guys! Give it a shot! Execute! Unified Spirit Evolution!   I wrote in a phrase of my own, but the Star Children actually do have a transformation phrase they say in this scene. It's "MECUNITE! Star Shining Knight!"  O-Oh my!Yeeeessss.Wake is so proud. This is MECUNITE. It combines the three Star Children of a single team into that big-rear end robot you see there. It's element is determined by the Team's Element, and it gets a massive stat boost that I think is determined by who the Team Leader's mother is. I haven't used this function enough to figure out the details.  In Team A(wful)'s case, the MEC has x4 Water Element and an ATK of 3097, which is pretty insane. MECUNITE also opens up new skills, and they are loving absurd for this stage of the game.  Dual Frost - A basic water elemental magic attack. Not particularly useful in this case since our big robot child is physical oriented. Absolute Zero - Same deal as Dual Frost, just a stronger version. Code ATK - This is the big 'gently caress-you' button. It's an elemental slash that hits all enemies and may lower ATK (if they manage to survive). Master Heal - Recovers 100% HP of all allies in battle. A full party heal is incredibly useful this early on. The only other way to heal the party all at once right now is to create a team of Clerics to give them the Team Skill "Grand Heal".      That's just straight bullshit for this point in the game. That's nearly double what Level 20 Wake/Narika hit for when attacking a weak point, except it also hits all enemies. So, what's the catch with this brutally effective ability? You may have noticed it already. It costs a whopping 200BP to MECUNITE. That means we can currently only pull it off once per dungeon, unless we get lucky with BP restore fountains. On the positive side, it doesn't appear to have any sort of turn limit. MECUNITE is your trump card for when you're on the ropes and need to salvage the battle. You lose access to the class specific skills, but you gain a good variety of attack and support skills in their place. The truth is, you will probably have to go out of your way to actually use it, or remember that it exists at all. I went through my entire Vita play through only using this once. I loving LOVE transformation sequence stuff, and even I completely forgot this existed. I think I have a single variation of MECUNITE unlocked in the Database, and there are upwards of 20 or 30 of the things. Part of the reason for that is you've likely already spent your BP making Star Children just before entering a dungeon. You would have to go out of your way to refill BP before going off, and the average player probably won't do that. Besides, it's biggest use would obviously be during Boss Fights, and those are rarely a challenge as is. I could have totally used this against Asmodeus if I felt like it, which would have turned a complete joke into a bug splatter on Team A(wful)'s sweet robot visor.  Speaking of bosses that could be made trivial by the use of legitimate battle mechanics.  Found you!Awww... It's sort of cute... Like a teddy bear... I'm not a teddy bear! I...am...Monokuma! And I am this school's headmaster! How dare you compare me to a child's plaything! You've cut me deep. Deeper than the Mariana Trench... Now, ah, make no mistake—you few students, so full of potential, represent the hope of the world. And to protect such splendid hope, you will all live a communal life together solely within the confines of this school. Everyone will live in harmony together, and adhere to the rules and regulations of the school. I am not screwing with you! I am no liar, of that you can be 100% sure. No matter how much you may yell and scream for help...help will not come. ....You want a piece of this!? Time to show you what despair truly is!Music: Boss Music 1 - Fatal Seven  When you accept the quest 'Monokuma Strikes', Monokuma will become the 'boss' of the Blue Garden Sub-Labyrinth. You'll run into him when you get to the final floor (technically 6F, but the last floor you can explore is 5F). Monokuma is pretty beefy for this point of the game. He's got solid defenses and decent speed, along with some pretty painful attacks. Time for Punishment! - Dusk element attack that also reduces Ether Density and hits Back and Left. Dusk will be effective against any Star Child at this point of the game, since they all have one of the basic four elements. I'm mad at you! - Non-elemental giant explosion that hits Front, Left, and Right. Also has an Ether Density reduction effect. Good Mornin'! - Ether element attack that hits Front and Back. Can also reduce Ether Density (Despite the fact that the attack is Ether/Light based  )Stare of Death - I've explained this before. Means we can't escape. That being said, you may notice a tiny weakness in those stats. His physical attack isn't crazy high, and his MP is...not so great.  Wake and Narika's Seventh Burst "Soil Barrage" is able to dish out 3800 on a critical hit head on, which only dents him a little bit. He's got a solid HP total behind him.  'I'm mad at you!' hits hard. However, take a quick look at the blue bar under Monokuma's turn icon. See the problem? Monokuma is not built for an extended fight. He burns himself out almost immediately.  His fighting style seems to be designed around trying to kill you in the first two turns, and I'll admit, he almost manages to pull it off. 'Time for punishment!' hit for double the damage that 'I'm mad at you!' did (likely owing to the Dusk Element effectiveness boost), and Wake and Narika got uncomfortably close to biting it, which would have scored us a game over.  Unfortunately for the little murderer, he lacks the gas to keep that offence going. He dries up his MP pool within the first two attacks and is reduced to weak claw swipes for the rest of the battle.  I actually manage to build a Combo of 3 off on him by using a Team B Skill called 'Gran Chain', which is an attack that has a chance of greatly boosting the Chain Drive. Monokuma has enough HP that he can survive the punishment necessary to get a good Combo. Most enemies would be long dead by now.  He has a charge attack that he can use without MP that appears to target every zone, but he doesn't get the chance to use it. Team B ended up Paralyzing him at some point, which held him back long enough for Wake and Narika to finish him with another Seventh Burst.  Go back to terrorizing TheMcD's thread, Monokuma. You can also see the kind of bonuses that getting a Chain Combo provides. They are actually really good. It's just too bad that few things live long enough for you to build that kind of combo. If that seemed like a disappointing crossover boss to you, that's because this is only Part 1. There is a second quest in this DLC where you fight Monokuma again, except he's rocking a level of 99. At that level, he actually has the MP needed to keep up the pressure for longer. We won't be taking that quest on until end game though. You don't need to be anywhere near level 99 to take him on, but we also sure as hell can't fight him at our current level of mid-20's. I loaded up a Vita save where I was in the mid 50's, and he knocked out 2 or 3 star children with his opening attack. -2nd-Year Classroom- With Monokuma killed (for now), we can return to bonding. We're sitting down with Narika this time, as she was voted 2nd. (I wonder if Narika is hanging out in here. I meant to get her opinion on the kids transformation.)  I don't know... This is all very sudden...[Female Disciple A]: We'll help you as much as we can. Please...! What should I do?[Female Disciple A]: So it's settled! I want you to put something together to present by the next conference. I look forward to seeing what you come up with, Vice Class Rep! No, wait! Oh no... What do I do?You got Chloe'd, didn't you?Oh, Wake.You don't look too good. I'm guessing it's related to that Disciple that was just here? Yes... I'm in way over my head. I have no idea how I'm going to handle this.Hey, if you need help I'm happy to offer it. I can handle the public speaking stuff if that's what the problem is. Thank you... But it has to be me this time.Why? What's going on?  And I have to participate in it as the second-year representative.What exactly is a Strategy Conference about?They were started to improve the conditions under which we fight the monsters... Disciples share their ideas, and the members debate over which plan to use. Each grade sends a representative from the Elite class to present their ideas. After the debate, the whole school votes on which plan to use.Each grade's class rep is supposed to be the representative at the conference... But our class rep got sick. (Should I tell her that the second-year rep is almost certainly dead? ...Probably not a good time for that, actually.)Sick, huh? So that's why you got pulled in?Yes. I'm getting nervous just thinking about it... Everyone will be watching! What... should I do?I hate to tell you this, but you're going to have to tough it out. I don't agree with it being dumped on you like that, but you are the vice representative. It's part of your duty.Yes. I suppose you're right. I know I have to, but I just don't feel very confident about it.So you're going to try and worm your way out of it?It's not that... It's just that I've always found public speaking hard. I get so nervous that I end up losing track of what I'm saying.That's a pretty common problem for people when it comes to presenting. You're just shy.No, I'm just faint-hearted. And if I lose it at the conference, it won't be good for anyone. I have to do something... but what!?Hey, if you want help then I'm right here. No need to freak out.Thank you so much. I'll feel much more comfortable with it.Maybe I could do the conference with you. Group presentation style. Those are a good way to ease into it when you don't have a way out.Um... With me?Yeah. Having someone with you is a big reassurance. It's like that for a lot of stuff in life. But I don't want to put you out.You're not putting me out.(This stuff is basically my entire life right now, apparently.)Let's show them what we've got. Right?We will... Thank you very much. Hm... I'll see if I can get them to let you in as a scribe.Scribe, huh? That's sounds pretty cool. Is that like a--You're thinking of 'squire', and no.Dammit. I got excited there for a minute.Narika fell victim to the same thing Chloe just did: Getting roped into poo poo because you won't tell people to shut up for 5 seconds. Does anyone in this school actually complete a conversation? Or do they just finish their sentences and then loving bolt before the other person can get the last word? -Ritual Hall- Before we can continue and start checking out this Strategy Conference, which I say with heavy sarcasm due to the fact that I wouldn't trust the students at this school with anything close to military planning, we need to bring Narika in for the next Classmating session. The girls are all still pretty uncomfortable with this, after all. Narika. I'm going to need you to focus if we're going to make this work.R-Right...What is it? Are you still nervous, too?Um, a little bit... Just a little... Actually, only a tiny bit...So that's a 'yes', then. Alright, come on. Close your eyes. We're doing another exercise.Um, like this?That's the way. Effective though, isn't it?Y-Yes... I think I feel a little calmer now. Thank you...No problem. You're gonna want to hold on to that sense of calmness though. You know what comes next. Brace for it.Okay... I've got three new classes to show off this time. Mercenary is the class that you get from using the 'Mercenary Manual' item I mentioned in the Blue Garden portion of the update. Mercenary is an upgrade over Swordis and is Male-only. Like the Witch, it just has better versions of skills compared to the lower counterpart.  We also have access to Blacksmith now. This opened up after a grind session I did earlier to prepare Ellie for her upcoming story dungeon. I also did training with Serina, since she was lagging in levels. It might not be immediately obvious, but Blacksmith is a slight upgrade to the Merchant class. Their skills are a little different though. Blacksmiths make use of Debuffs, mainly in terms of TEC and ATK. They work really well on teams that focus on those stats. They unfortunately do not get the Merchant ability of summoning stores mid-dungeon though.  Lancer is our first real Tank class. They don't move fast, but they have really good defenses and decent attack. As you would expect, they are good for reducing damage for a team. I actually still have two more new classes to show off, but I'll save those for Ellie's update.  Really takes a toll on you guys, doesn't it?Yes. I get short of breath so quickly... It's very draining. I think I should work on building up my stamina for this.That's good. Just don't accept any energy drinks from Ruby. I have a sneaking suspicion she's up to something with those.Strategy Conference time! Let's see what kind of tactical plans a bunch of smug teenagers come up with. -2nd-Year Classroom- Conference time is here. You holding up okay?I'm imagining having to get up on stage in front of the whole school... Arrrgh! I can't take it!Take it easy, that's the nerves talking.Wake, you'll be off to the side as a scribe taking minutes.Sounds boring, but I'm really there to watch over you, so I guess it's fine.Good. I'm sure I'll be very nervous, and I might look your way now and then. When I do, just give me an encouraging nod, and it should help me calm down.You got it Chief. If a nod's not enough, then maybe I could do this. *finger guns* Yeah, that's a little much.Oh, I see... That was a joke so I would relax. Okay. Thank you. I think I feel a little better now. It's almost time. We should get going.-Auditorium- [Council President]: Quiet, please. We will now commence the First Strategy Conference. We encourage open yet serious debate on each representative's ideas. All Disciples will select the plan they most agree with and vote at the end. [Male Disciple A]: As the representative of the third-years, I'll go first. My presentation has to do with provisions sent to those on the front lines. The food situation on the front is harsh, due to out limited transportation methods. To establish more efficient supply lines, I propose we form a "Transport Team".  (How do we not already have "Transport Teams" for our supply lines? Is anyone in charge of this drat operation? Make no wonder we--)(Uh-oh. She's not looking too hot up there. This is going south, fast.)[Male Disciple A]: ...Matters of funding will be discussed later on. That concludes my presentation. [Council President]: Thank you. Next up is the Second-Year Representative, Narika. ....[Council President]: Narika, it's your turn. Oh... Oh, right! Excuse me... Um, let me see. Where did I put my notes...?Take it easy, Narika. Look this way.Ohh... Ummm...[Male Disciple B]: What's wrong? Why is she just standing there? [Female Disciple A]: Come on, Narika. Keep it together...! Ummmm, ummmm, ummmmm....(Come on, girl. Pull it together.)[Male Disciple B]: Come on! How long is she planning to stall up there? Hurry it up already! [Female Disciple A]: Maybe it was a bad idea asking her to do this. (Sorry Narika, I gave you the chance, but you're flailing out there. I need to pull you out before you drown.)If it's alright with the everyone, I will carry out our presentation.Wake!? Thanks. Alright, the Second-Year plan was to establish an evac squad for the injured...*One elequent and totally awesome plan later* ...And that concludes our presentation. Thanks for listening.[Council President]: Thank you. The two of you may be seated. Y-Yes. Excuse me... And who is this smug little witch?[Female Disciple A]: She's been standing out lately from the other first-years. [Male Disciple B]: Hey, she's kind of cute. Maybe I'll vote for her. You're supposed to vote based on--Oh forget it.(This place will be a burning heap within the year. It's honestly a miracle it's survived for this long.) Greetings, everyone. Allow me to present to you the first-years' plan.*One mind-bogglingly useless plan later* ...And that concludes my presentation.[Council President]: Now that we've heard all the plans, we'll hold a discussion with the three of you. Very well. First off, Narika Shina...(Ohhhh, nooo. Can't jump in this time.) *covers face with hand*Y-Yes?About the proposed evacuation squad for the injured... Can you explain your basis for forming three separate squads?Um, let's see. I should have the detailed numbers right here...Huh, that's strange...Is there a problem?I'm sorry, I can't seem to find my data.[Female Disciple A]: Oh, man. It's all over. ...*One 'world's slowest train-wreck' later* [Council President]: All the votes are in, and the winner is... the first-years' plan! As a result, we'll petition to establish a peacekeeping patrol in the Academy. I'm honored to have fulfilled my duty as the class representative.The first-years' plan won by a landslide...loving, how? What the hell good is a 'Peacekeeping Patrol' going to do at the Academy? This is the home base of God's Monster Slaying Army and the nearby Dusk Circle isn't even active! Not to mention the giant-rear end defensive wall lined with cannons. How did that get voted best plan?It was All because I was too tongue-tied to say anything during the debate.*sighs* Don't let it get to you, Narika.Excuse me...Yes?(Oh great, I can tell this is going to be fun.)I'd heard you were a distinguished S Rank, but they must have exaggerated. You didn't say a single thing during the debate.I know... If this keeps up, we first-years will dominate at the next conference, too. That is all. Excuse me.*Sasami leaves* I'm sorry, Wake... You came out here with me and I was so nervous, I couldn't even say anything.You did your best, Narika. You just froze, that's all. It happens.But you heard that first-year...I'm sorry... I'm going back home. Excuse me.*Narika leaves* Awesome. There goes like two solid weeks of progress.*slamming head on desk* Why. Is. Everyone. Here. Such. A. loving. rear end in a top hat? Wait a minute...Am I only contagious to people that aren't S Rank?...Nah... That can't be it.So that went....well it went. It went painfully and slowly. I've lived that situation. I mean, I wasn't the person presenting, but I've been present to see it happen. Not fun. -Hallway-  Hm? Is that Narika? She better be doing what I hope she's doing.Weapons from AngelMarker Industries are essential in our fight. Therefore...Narika?-2nd-Year Classroom- Oh... Wake.Trying to practice your performance?W-Were you watching?No, I just heard your voice from the hall. Thought I'd check in.Er... I was practicing for the next Strategy Conference. I didn't realize people could hear me from the hallway... How embarrassing!Not it's not. It means you're getting better at projecting your voice. That's important.Maybe you're right... I was going to memorize my notes for the presentation at the next conference.Hold on, I thought that student was talking about next year or something. There are more of these?Yes, there's a total of three. Just like the first one, we'll present our plans... And the student body will vote to choose the best one. The plan that wins will officially be submitted on behalf of the Academy. And whoever presents the winning plan gets to attend a major conference. Wow.(Oh, thank Star God that someone is reviewing these things. I don't want to see a bunch of kids giving their classmates likely fatal marching orders.)(Although that does raise an issue with adults doing that... questions for later, Wake. Focus on the now.)There are only two conferences left. I want to speak in at least one of them. Otherwise everybody's hard work in coming up with this plan will go to waste...Uhh... Well, maybe you should... No, never mind. If you're committed to this then I'll back you up.No, no! You've helped so much already by attending the first one with me.It's not a big deal, Narika. Don't be like Serina, just accept help when you need it.Well, I'm going to start again from the top, if you want to listen.If anything sounds off, please don't hesitate to say so.Right, like I'm known for hesitating when it comes to that.*ahem* ...Here goes.Thank you for coming. We second-years have the following proposal...*One...actually, I have no idea how this goes. She talks, okay?* ...That concludes my presentation.How was it? Please be honest.Ehh...You should try smiling a little more to ease the tension. Other than that, you didn't stutter much and you projected loud enough to be heard. I'd say it was pretty good.Thank you, but I'm not so convinced... I guess I just need a lot more practice.Practice helps. You did a much better job just now than during the conference.I think that's because you were my audience this time. For some reason, when it's just you listening, I don't get as nervous.If anyone else was here, I would get too nervous, and I'd go quiet again.One step at a time. You'll get used to it.I hope so... I just can't shake this uneasy feeling.Anything I can do about that?Let's see... Well, I was completely overpowered during the debate...Would you mind helping me practice for that too? Just pretend you're my opponent, and try to point out my plan's weaknesses. I'll have to try my best to give counter-arguments.Asking me to criticize is an ill-advised request to make of me, but if that's what you want...I'm ready!*A practice debate happens. Chill out on these short time-skips game!* Not bad. Not bad at all. You made some good arguments and it was all to the point and easy to follow.I only caused you to cry once. That's a record low for me.The question is, can you perform this well in front of an audience? Oh for... Really? Now?Oh... You're Sasami, right? The first-year representative?Pardon me, but I was walking down the hall and saw the door open.Oohhh, so that's what that stench was.Ex-Excuse you!?You heard me.It may have been rude of me, but I was listening in on your mock debate. I must say, I had hoped for better.Wh-What?I expected so much from you, so forgive me if I come away a bit disappointed. But you can't even speak your mind unless God's Gift is present. Is that really becoming of a class rep at the Strategy Conference?W-Well...You want to back off a bit?I'm only stating the plain truth. And only because I had hoped for so much more from you, Narika Shina.Oh...*Narika loving books it*  Hey! Narika! Come on!-Hallway- *pant*...*pant*Man, finally caught you. You can really move it when you want to.Wake... *cough* *hack* *cough* ...What!? No... that's all right... *cough*Actually, I'm... not sure what I was going for there... Did it work, though?...That's a lot better. Thank you.Sasami was right... I was so embarrassed. I just couldn't take it. I'm sorry if I put you out...You didn't put me out. Stop saying that. And I'm sure Sasami just thinks of you as a rival or something.Like a somehow more smug, less charismatic version of Gary Oak.I somehow doubt that. But...But...? And I don't want to disappoint everyone else in the class... I want to be sure I'm in good shape for the conference coming up.Now you've got the fire in you. I'll still be with you for support, if you need it.Thank you, Wake...Okay, so Sasami being a complete tool may have had a positive impact after all. I still hate her and want to see that smug look smeared off of her face. At least Narika seems ready to fight now. Maybe Wake will be able to just kind of ride passenger for this route and let it all play out. Seems like everything is mostly under control with him just being present. I guess we'll see. That's a wrap for Narika for the time being however. Her route is on pause, just like Chloe's until we hit Chapter 3. Up last, but sure as hell not least, we have Ellie. Oh dear god, Ellie. -------------------------------------------------------- Oh, right. The badge thing.  The 'Monokuma Badge' we got from kicking his rear end is an accessory for the heroines. The quest cannot be repeated, so you unfortunately can only get one of them.   All of the heroines love this gift. There are two other gift items that every heroine loves, but one isn't until a later chapter and the other is after you get the harem ending. For those that are curious, there are some gifts that none of the heroines will like as well. I'll point those out when our little merchant child starts stocking them. They're kind of funny actually. There are also a few gifts that some heroines like for...god knows what reason.  User BlazeEmblem informs me that this badge was a sticker given out as part of the Special Edition of Danganronpa 2. It apparently reads "I'm sorry, I was born stupid." That's pretty mean Monokuma. Narika isn't stupid. I did need to equip this to her in order to show it off though. If only I could have given this to Ruby so I could make her wear it every time she fucks up. One last thing. Here's the details of the MECUNITE that we formed at the start of the update. I include this for one reason.  Crest: Aqua. Ahh, refreshing. 
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Psycho Knight posted:
Oh, that badge. It's from Dangan Ronpa 2, and the limited edition of that game gave out a sticker with the English translation with it. It says "I'm sorry, I was born stupid." That seems kind of mean to give to her.
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BlazeEmblem posted:Oh, that badge. It's from Dangan Ronpa 2, and the limited edition of that game gave out a sticker with the English translation with it. I saw that before, but I thought it might have been a fan thing. I knew it would be an insult though, just because of the character/game. Yeah, I'll take it off of her. She can keep it as a souvenir or something. Even if I had given it to my most hated character, that would be too mean. And Ruby can't wear it, unfortunately. Psycho Knight fucked around with this message at 05:04 on Oct 25, 2018 |
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Can we please dunk Sasami into the nearest Dusk Circle ASAP? Holy poo poo the rival characters are pricks but she really goes the extra mile.
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SSNeoman posted:Can we please dunk Sasami into the nearest Dusk Circle ASAP? Holy poo poo the rival characters are pricks but she really goes the extra mile. This x1000. What a mega prick. By the by, if anyone here hasn't played Danganronpa and wants to get into it, I highly recommend either playing or finding an LP of DR1 and DR2 before dipping into Ultra Despair Girls. Seriously, if you have any care for story, don't skip the first two games.
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Oct 25, 2018 16:41
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SSNeoman posted:Can we please dunk Sasami into the nearest Dusk Circle ASAP? Holy poo poo the rival characters are pricks but she really goes the extra mile. Yeah, Chloe's rival is being a prick but he is acting out of a legitimate concern that she's undermining her authority and student discipline. Which isn't exactly what's happening but is similar to her actual problem of not being willing to tell people asking for help that she's busy. Sasami is just bullying Narika; otherwise she'd have expressed some level of approval of Narika rehearsing even if she was a,prick in the process. Also, I have limited tolerance for her kind of jockying for social dominance under any conditions and I am exceptionally against it when it interferes with what is after all a war council about planning a response to a global disaster. If you feel the need to jockey for social dominance under those conditions just find a way to steal credit for the best idea.
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Sasami is probably the most realistic character in this whole mess. Her dumb-rear end jockeying for social dominance and prestige at the cost of her comrades' lives is super common in real-world war councils. In a more deconstructionist work, we'd get to see the casualties rather than that being a background detail in Narika's story.
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Ratoslov posted:Sasami is probably the most realistic character in this whole mess. Her dumb-rear end jockeying for social dominance and prestige at the cost of her comrades' lives is super common in real-world war councils. In a more deconstructionist work, we'd get to see the casualties rather than that being a background detail in Narika's story. Well, to be fair, we really wouldn't get to see casualties from Sasami's plan because there wouldn't be any. The first-years plan is to create a Peacekeeping Patrol at the Academy. You know, the most heavily defended fortress from monsters in the world? The island in the middle of the ocean where AngelMarker has constructed a huge magic barrier wall (and a physical wall) and monitors the currently inactive Dusk Circle. The idea here is that when someone speaks with confidence and is charismatic, then people listen to them instead of the words they're saying. We see one of the Male disciples opine about voting for Sasami because she's cute. We don't get to hear any of the details about her plan, but chances are if we did then it would be so riddled with holes that the player wouldn't be able to take it seriously at all. Skipping over it is just a cover for the writer to say "No, see, she actually has a really well thought out argument about how it would be a REALLY good plan." Sasami's plan (technically it's her whole class' plan as well) is incredibly safe and also largely useless. It's like gathering up a bunch of soldiers in the base, and instead of sending them to the front lines to actually do something, you have them do security detail at central command. I'm not advocating these students sending their classmates off to die using strategies they came up with during a Civ 6 session, but the third-year's plan involved establishing better supply lines and the second-year's plan involved med-evac, which sound like super important things to have. Psycho Knight fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Oct 25, 2018 |
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They certainly are, and it bothers me on a deep level that people just didn't put any actual thought into which plan would be best just because Narika couldn't get her poo poo together in this instance, or because Sasami is so eloquent or whatever.
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Sword_of_Dusk posted:They certainly are, and it bothers me on a deep level that people just didn't put any actual thought into which plan would be best just because Narika couldn't get her poo poo together in this instance, or because Sasami is so eloquent or whatever.
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~Chapter 2 Bonding (Catching up with Ellie)~ There's gonna be some anime blood in this update. I don't want to spoil things, but I feel like I owe people a warning nonetheless. I also apologize for the more subdued commentary from Wake. It's hard for me to write anything into Ellie's current events, because it would completely ruin the tone. Now that we've caught up on Chloe and Narika's "A Tale of Two Jackasses", starring some no-name co-worker of Chloe's and some gigantic smug rear end in a top hat classmate of Narika's, it's time to get to Ellie. Buckle in, because Ellie's route hits hard and early. As I mentioned in the Vote Results at the start of Chloe's update, Ellie's route seems tailor-made to be as intriguing as possible right out of the gate. It's a tad unbalanced as far as I'm concerned. The other girls get more of a gradual build up, but Ellie's route is going to just club us right over the head. It is a little short though. Let's take a look. -Shooting Range- Hey! Ellie! It's lunchtime. What are you still doing here? Oh, hello. What are you doing here? You're gonna miss lunch if you don't hurry.That's what I just said to you. What are you doing here, anyway? Fair point. Probably should have guessed as much.I keep coming to class late, so I haven't gotten much gun training. That's why I begged the rangemaster to let me practice during lunch. I'm hoping this will make me more useful to you, even if only a little.As admirable as that is, you can still afford to stop and have lunch.It's okay! I know I've said it before, but I'm pretty tough. I'm confident about my body.Well, you're built for it I guess.Huh? I thought I was shorter than most girls. I mean, I'm not particularly shapely, either, so I don't know why you'd say that...It was just a-- *gasp* No... wait a moment...Please do not go where I think you're going...A-Are you talking about... m-my chest? That's... That's an awful thing to say...We're not doing this. Listen, just don't push yourself too hard, okay? You're attending the Academy and also working for the church, you're gonna burn yourself out.Please, don't worry about that. I've been taking days off from the Academy to make up for it.I think it's much easier compared to what the other Disciples have to put up with. Even my classmates think that I'm always cutting class. Aheh...Well, you're dealing with a lot of church stuff after all, that you can't tell them about. Makes sense they would start assuming stuff like that.You're right. Still, everyone's so nice to me... My school life has been much better than I had imagined it would be.I got to see you again, after all...Why do you keep saying stuff like that? I met you when you ran up and stared at me on the way to the Academy. I'm such a doof... I say weird things every now and again. Don't pay much attention to it.Riiight...Well, if it makes you happy then I'm fine with chatting whenever you want.Aheheh... Thank you. I'm usually here during lunch, so please come talk to me whenever you like.Good luck with your shooting practice.Thank you! Good luck with your classes.That sure was a thing. For those of you who are wondering why Ellie is out doing marksmanship practice despite using a staff, it's because her staff is still part gun. All of the Dusk Breakers are guns of some kind. The top part of Ellie's staff transforms into some kind of little laser thing when she attacks in battle. -Ritual Hall- Alright Ellie, time for some more Classmating practice. Um... It's okay if you hold my hand this time.You sure? You don't have to force yourself.I've convinced myself that my cold hands are part of what makes me who I am.Hey, that's the spirit. Let's give it a try then.Mmhmm! I'm sure we'll create a much stronger Star Child than before. I'm already looking forward to what kind of Star Child it'll be. New class time again! Hunters are an upgrade over the Archer class, which we just unlocked earlier in this chapter. The new classes might be flying at us a little too fast. I've got a feeling we might be coming up on a dry spell soon. Hunters are useful if you want to try and get Chains. They have attacks and skills that can cripple enemy speed, and they can also use attacks that hit from multiple angles at once.  We also have the Minstrel. Leveling Ellie a little bit got this one to open since she has a similar stat spread. Minstrels are largely support focused, although they do have some decent magic attack if you wanted to put a bit more oomph in the Star Child team's spells. That's it for classes for now. I'll show more off if they open up during the story dungeon, but I don't see that happening until next chapter. Haa... Oh, I'm sorry! How I feel isn't important. What's important is whether or not we manage to create a Star Child! Yup.Both of those things are important Ellie, not just Star Children. Besides, the Star Children are looking stronger and stronger as you get better, so how you feel is definitely a big factor.Really? Will my Star Child be useful to you?Of course. Don't worry, they'll be fine. I'll look out for them.Aheh... It'd make me happy if you did that. It's a promise, okay? Please treat all our Star Children with affection.There isn't much to these Classmating scenes. I add in what I can, but some of these just don't have a lot of potential for color commentary. -Shooting Range- Ellie? You're training during lunch again? Whoa... It's you. You surprised me.  Considering that I didn't notice you from this distance, I still have a lot to learn.Uhhh, do you want to run that by me again? You know what I smell like?Oh, uh. For some reason, you smell really good. Maybe that's what Ether smells like? It's a very calming scent.Does Ether even have a scent? I don't notice anything.I have a strong sense of smell.I don't think most normal people would be able to tell. You're the only person I know who smells like that.......Oh... I'm sorry. I didn't mean to get lost in thought. Um, did you need something from me?Okay, well putting that on the back burner for a second, I was wondering if you were going to go to lunch this time? Aren't you hungry? Excuse me? I mean, I don't eat that much.That's why I'm okay with skipping lunch... I'm very happy that you came to invite me, but...You on a diet? You're going to waste away, you know. It's not a good idea to go skipping meals.That's true, but... But I'm not dieting or anything. I just... don't eat much.Oh... But it's no fun eating alone, is it?Hmmm... Very well.  I want you to enjoy your lunch, after all.Whatever works, as long as we get you out of here. Come on.Of course.-School Store- Whoa... It's busy in here. This is the first time I've been in the cafeteria. Everyone looks like they're having fun while they're eating.Yeah, it's kind of a madhouse in here sometimes. Especially when Serina bursts in here looking to milk a cow dry. I'll go get us something. You'll eat at least a little bit, right?Me...? Uh... I really don't need anything more than water... Oh, no. I just... don't have much of an appetite.[Store Lady]: That won't do. From your uniform, I can tell that you're an Elite Disciple. You have to eat well! Um, I do, really...She's right, Ellie. You've got to have something. Come on.[Store Lady]: I know! Someone gave me these nuts just now, but I'll give some to you, too. Eating two or three of these will fill you right up, and they're nutritious. Here. Eat these and keep up the good work fighting those monsters. Thank you... Aheh... She gave me these.Ah... These are Num-Num Nuts! Wow, that brings back memories...You know about these? What? Those things only grew in the area where I used to live. I remember them from my hometown, they had a really sweet smell.Did you grow up in the same area?Huh? Oh, yes... Before I moved to Shelgard, I was in the orphanage in Gazel Village...I remember that place! That was really close by to my hometown. I ran errands to that place a lot.Mom always did have kind of a lackadaisical approach to parenting.I-I see...Maybe we ran into each other sometime in the past.Um... I guess? Perhaps it's possible that we've had some close encounters... Well, if you can't remember, then I bet that's all that happened. I don't think it's anything to worry about.What is that supposed to mean?Enough about that. If you don't hurry and get your lunch, you'll run out of time.drat, you're right. It's been longer than I thought.Are you sure you only want water? Please, don't worry about me. Eat whatever you like.Fair enough. Grab some seats, I'll pick everything up.Got it. You can count on me.*One face-stuffing later* Ugh, that was good. Glad there was still some of the good stuff left.Aheheh... You sure eat a lot. But your face says you haven't had enough yet.Yeah, I could probably go for some dessert. They're candied, so you could have them for dessert. It's both sweet and nutritious!The nutritious part is a little debatable, but sure, I'll give them a try. *crunch* How does it taste?Like salt. This isn't sugar, Ellie.What!? Really? I-I'm sorry.You had one, didn't you? How did you not notice?I-I... um... I have no sense of taste. But I remembered how they tasted back in the day, and it tasted sweet to me. I'm really sorry!Hey, don't apologize. I'm sorry for kind of being an insensitive jerk. Didn't know you couldn't taste stuff. Besides, it's not like these tasted bad. I just didn't expect it.Whew... I'm glad to hear that. ...Well, I'll try making the candied ones some time. Um... I can't guarantee they'll be any good, since I can't taste them... I remembered it being really sweet and delicious, so I want you to try it...Don't worry about it. I'm sure you can still do a good job on them. Just take it easy on the sugar if you decide to give it a shot.O-Okay! Oh... That's the warning bell already. Thank you for inviting me to lunch today.I hope you'll like the Num-Num Nuts that I'll make for you. Please excuse me.*Ellie leaves* (What is her deal? I don't remember her, but she apparently lived near my hometown? I guess I didn't necessarily know everyone, but...) (What the hell was that...? I feel like something's there... way in the back...)Okay, so there is clearly a story here. Let's not beat around the bush about it. It's time we start getting answers from Ellie. -Shooting Range- Training hard again today, huh?Oh, yes. It's like a daily routine by now. We only have a half-day today. Are you about to head home?I actually have some free time, surprisingly. I was wondering what to do with it. Feel like hanging out?Huh? Are you sure? A half-day is valuable for you, though.Don't worry about it. I'm sure. So? You in or out? Okay. I gladly accept your invitation. Where should we go?Is there anywhere you have a preference for?Hm... Not really. I'll leave it to your good judgement, aheheh."Good judgement"? There's something I never thought I'd hear from someone. Alright, well, let's go for a walk then. We'll decide on the way.Sure! My heart's filled with anticipation right now!-Beach- Ah... I can smell the ocean.I like the ocean. ...It smells a little like you.Okay, there's that 'scent' thing again. Do I have some special smell about me? Are you sure you're not just smelling my deodorant?It's also the scent of high, blue skies... Crackling fire... The earth after it rains... and the scent of warm sunlight. Elements of aqua, wind, fire, earth, and Ether...You're filled with all the wonderful scents of this world.All? What about Dusk? It doesn't suit you.I have a major issue with this part right here. I don't want to break up this event though, so I'll save the rant for the end of the update. I want you to have the same scent you've always had...Okay, stop. This has to stop. I've had enough of this. Ellie, have we met somewhere before? I want a solid answer.Oh... Um... Ooh, look at that pretty seashell!*Ellie loving books it... like 3 feet* I think I'll take it home with me as a keepsake of today.Eek!Stop trying to dodge me, Ellie.I-I cut my finger on the edge of the shell... Oww... I think it's cut pretty deep.*sighs* Yeah, it looks like it got you good. You're bleeding on the sand.Huh?*Wake blacks out momentarily, or something to that effect* Ngh... Dammit... the hell was that? I feel like I've seen this before... When I was out, I ran into a girl in the park and tried to talk to her. She was really pale and didn't look like she was doing so hot.She was bleeding like crazy, and it got all over the sand in the sandbox. I did what I could, but that pretty much just amounted to holding her and telling her not to die while I tried to draw attention.They didn't make it. She stopped breathing before anyone showed up.That was you, wasn't it? How the hell did you survive that?Wake... You... remembered. That makes me so happy... I was just a girl you met once, ten years ago... I was certain that you would've forgotten about me. That's why it makes me happy.You're not answering the question. How did you survive?It's because you held me then... Normally, I would've died from such wounds.What are you getting at?It seems... I've hard strong Star Energy ever since I was young. My power had the danger of going berserk because I couldn't control it at my age. Children like that usually undergo medical exams and the Church casts a spell on them. But because I was an orphan, I'd never been given any tests like that...Okay, so the Church can't help every orphan. Someone had to have been taking care of Ellie though, she didn't exactly look like a street urchin in that picture. So why exactly did nobody alert the Church to this? You'd think they'd be all about keeping an eye on orphans if uncontrolled Star Energy has the potential to explode or some poo poo. That's why... you saw what happened at the park.So your power going nuts is what gave you those wounds?Yes... Normally, I would've died. But a mysterious Ether power suppressed my wild power and put me into a fake death.I think you've had your potential to be a God's Gift since you were young. I was taken to the Gracia Church... There, they cast a spell on me and I was able to recover... You can see that now. So it's all thanks to you that I'm alive right now. Thank you so much.So that's how you got involved with the Church. I guess you kind of owe them big time. Sorry I couldn't remember you until now.Oh, it's all right. People wouldn't expect to see someone they think is dead a decade afterwards.Aheh... Still, you've always been so softhearted, ever since you were young. Normal people wouldn't embrace a bloody girl they didn't know. And they wouldn't hang on to them, and shout that they don't want you to die.Not sure if you've noticed, but I'm not exactly a normal guy.But your voice, and your scent... I've never forgotten them... I've always admired you, deep in my heart.Then why didn't you say something? You've been hanging around me for weeks. You'd think it was strange that I would remember someone's scent from a decade ago. And if you'd forgotten about me... That would have been a shock for me as well... That's why I was too frightened to say anything... There is clearly a 'correct' answer here, but I won't be selecting it. Sorry to any of you that love Ellie, but I can't let this slide. For what it's worth, choices like these only have a slight impact on mood and BP, both of which can be easily improved. Sorry Ellie, but that excuse only goes so far. Y-You're brushing it off like that...?Ever since I met you at this Academy... All this time, I was thinking about what I should do, you know? You could at least try to understand how a girl feels...Uh-uh, that's not going to fly. You've spent plenty of time with me so far, you could have talked to me openly about it rather than dance around it for weeks at a time while poking me to try and make me remember.Sorry Ellie lovers, but I don't side with her on this one. If the roles were reversed, we'd be treating Wake like a goddamn creeper and he would have been flat out arrested, or at least expelled, ages ago. She has spent at minimum a few days, more likely a few weeks, doing the following: 1. Hovering around Wake and tracking him across campus (It's slightly implied that that is why she was out in the forest during the 'Schoolhouse' meeting). 2. Implying that she knows who he is only to nervously back away from the comment a second later (multiple times). 3. Talking about 'memorizing his scent' and training to pick it up from a distance. I don't buy it that she was too afraid to say literally anything about already knowing him, especially when he starts questioning her if the two have met somewhere before. Ellie doesn't get to hide behind 'Oh, that's how girl's feelings are, you should be more understanding'. The two of them weren't childhood friends. Wake spent all of about 1 minute with her, ten years ago, before she seemingly died. He didn't even get her name. He was 6 or 7 years old at the time and his family either had been, or was just about to be, completely ripped apart in front of his eyes. *sighs* ...Wait a second.Your hand. We haven't treated your finger yet.Huh?It's not bleeding now? It looked deep though.Ah... Oh, it wasn't that bad. It was just a nick. I'm tough, after all. My Star Energy will never go berserk like it did when we met. That's why small injuries like this are no big deal for me.Well, if you insist.Yep. I'm totally okay! Whew... It was refreshing to get that off my chest. I was finally able to thank you, after ten years of holding it in...That alone makes coming to this Academy all worthwhile. I... I truly admire you. Would it be okay if I continued liking you just like before?What?Oh... It's not like I want you to like me or anything... And I'm not saying that I want to date you, either. I just want to keep holding onto my feelings for you forever... That's all I meant.Would that... be a bother to you?No, that wouldn't bother me. I kind of feel like we've been on the wrong foot this entire time. Now that the air is clear, I think we should be trying this whole thing again.Really?It's more than enough for me to that you feel that way! Thank you! Aheh... Today's been a very good day.I feel like I can keep on living just on this feeling. So, please, let me say it one more time: Thank you so much for everything!So that's what we missed with Ellie. Turns out Wake really did meet her before, for a few seconds when he was 7. She almost died, but Wake's God's Gift Ether managed to put her in suspended animation or something long enough for the Church to rush over and get her healed up. So she works for the Church because they sort of helped save her life, and it's not as though she had anywhere else to go. That's it, we're all caught up with the three focus heroines now. We can finally return to full updates that move the story forward. Next time, we take Ellie into the Gluttony Labyrinth and get that poo poo sealed up good so we can set sail for Chapter 3. You're free to ignore this part if you want. I'm just ranting. Now, let's go back to that comment she made about how Wake 'smells'. --------------------- You're filled with all the wonderful scents of this world.All? What about Dusk?There's no need for that. Dusk smells like... blood. It's the smell of desires that flow within people. It doesn't suit you.--------------------- Nothing about this makes the slightest bit of sense. I can understand what the writing team was trying to go for with this. It's the usual "Darkness is evil, Hero is pure, so the Hero has no Darkness within him." She's trying to say that Wake doesn't have the scent of Dusk because Dusk is the scent of blood and desires and blah blah. But we've established that Dusk is not necessasrily evil in the world of Conception 2. There has been some discussion in the thread about the intended meaning behind the Dusk energy possibly being an allusion to the concept of 'impurity' that needs to be cleansed. The issue is that the game itself clearly states (in the database anyway) that Dusk is a major piece of the world and humans in general. The will to live comes from Dusk. Desires are not necessarily bad things, and the game doesn't make a clear distinction between 'good and bad' desires. The reason everything is going to poo poo currently is because there is an imbalance. There's more Dusk Energy than Ether. The Dusk energy needs to be reduced, but it needs to be brought back down to balance with the other elements. It is not something to be eliminated, because the world kind of needs it. This could be the writers saying that Wake is the 'counter-weight'. He has way more Ether energy than Dusk because he is meant to balance out the imbalance. That doesn't mean he would have no Dusk at all. So it ends up sounding like Ellie is saying that Wake has no desires, not even the desire to keep living, which is completely false. Wake has already demonstrated a bunch of desires, the biggest of which being his intense desire to kill all monsters. Official Wake may be a bit slow on the romance uptake, but he does clearly have a labido. He gets shy and he does end up developing feelings for the various heroines. So he has the desire to love and be loved. It could be an incredibly subtle fourth wall jab at his nature as an Avatar for the player. You know, 'he has no desires because they are determined by the player controlling him'. I somehow doubt that the writing team was going for that though. As for Dusk being the scent of blood and not suiting Wake, that's also really iffy as well. I didn't make up Wake's obsession with monster killing. That's part of his character. There is also a tiny plot hole later on which might imply that he isn't above killing people either. Then there is the other interpretation of this scene. Ellie smells all the elements of the world from him because he is surrounded by and has connections with the heroines, who all represent those elements (Narika/Serina: Earth, Fuuko: Water, Chloe: Wind, Ellie: Fire). The problem with this is that one of our final party members is Dusk element. I won't spoil anything about her character, but I think it should be clear that she isn't a bloodthirsty evil (or even morally questionable) killing machine, considering that she is one of the main heroines. It's a strange line. I can see what they wanted this scene to imply (the hero is 'pure'), but the game's own world contradicts it. Psycho Knight fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Oct 26, 2018 |
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Oct 26, 2018 00:10
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One thing I found odd about this game (avoiding spoilers) is that they didn't pull the cliche of elements heavily matching personality this time (for most of the heroines at least.) Each characters' elements feel more there for gameplay reasons than anything else.
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Aww, so the star eyes are just there for no reason? Pretty lame. Unless the 'I barely eat and can't even taste food anymore' implies there's still more mysteries to come I guess.
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Zanzibar Ham posted:Aww, so the star eyes are just there for no reason? Pretty lame. Unless the 'I barely eat and can't even taste food anymore' implies there's still more mysteries to come I guess. I couldn't really work it in, but I think maybe the star eyes are part of whatever spell the Church used to heal her up. She has anime 'dying eyes' in that flashback pic, so we can't tell if it's something she's had since birth or something she gets later. Mokinokaro posted:One thing I found odd about this game (avoiding spoilers) is that they didn't pull the cliche of elements heavily matching personality this time (for most of the heroines at least.) Yeah, I mentioned this before, but I like it. It's nice not having every girl aligned with an element based on looks and personality.
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Oct 26, 2018 02:37
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Her star eyes might also be the result of her rampant Star Energy or the seal on it to keep her from exploding again.
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I have a serious distaste for people like Narika. Having your heart in the right place doesn't mean you get to be poo poo at your job, and the fact she took it knowing she'd suck at it makes it worse. If you want to learn to be more confident then go do it some other way. Also calling it right now, Ellie was experimented on by the church.
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Commander Keene posted:Her star eyes might also be the result of her rampant Star Energy or the seal on it to keep her from exploding again. This actually makes some sense by anime logic and is the one I'd go with if the game doesn't explain it. IIRC, Torri's hair has no explanation either. I think they're just ways they decided to make her and Ellie stand out more.
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Kinda get the impression Ellie actually did die of blood loss way back and is now animated by Star Energy hence the whole no sense of taste and not needing to eat and hating Dusk Energy.
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Dance Officer posted:I have a serious distaste for people like Narika. Having your heart in the right place doesn't mean you get to be poo poo at your job, and the fact she took it knowing she'd suck at it makes it worse. If you want to learn to be more confident then go do it some other way. I mean, she took on the VP thing for that reason, to get better at public stuff. Her getting the strategy conference thing dumped on her is her classmates fault. It boggles the mind why they went to her for that when they know drat well she isn't a good public speaker. Not to mention the actual Class President or Representative or whatever is always missing/sick/busy/possibly dead whenever something comes up. Plus, you can practice all you want. You have no idea what's going to happen to you until you actually get up in front of that audience. The only way you can build your public speaking confidence is to actually do it. Standing in front of a mirror won't do you much good. Unless you can routinely rope like 20 people together to sit in a room and help you practice. I can't comment on Ellie theories cause possible spoilers. Nice to see some speculation going on in the thread though. Psycho Knight fucked around with this message at 12:05 on Oct 26, 2018 |
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Well I figure either Narika's classmates volunteered her for the job because they didn't want it, or Class Rep Missing Presumed Dead had been planning to handle the tough stuff and convinced the rest of the class to let Narika take the vice slot so she could get in some practice on the easy stuff. This being a Japanese-inspired school, the clubs and student council are taken quite seriously because they're viewed as practice for real jobs, so if someone weak-willed and shy ends up in a position of authority you can be confident it wasn't their idea and probably their class is full of lazy assholes. I figure that principle is also why they had the strategy meeting; they're learning to handle military strategy the way a normal student council is learning to handle a budget. namehereguy fucked around with this message at 13:47 on Oct 26, 2018 |
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I've got Update 7 ready to go, but I want to try and get this to a new page before I post it. This page is kind of stuffed with the three bonding updates. Here's a little cut content that I've had to get rid of for space reasons. I left out pictures to reduce the size. This is where Chlotz explains the heroines Weapon Upgrading. From Update 4: -Downtown- Perfect timing. I've got a message from Chief Ruby.What? I just came from there. What could she have possibly forgotten?It's about strengthening the Dusk Breakers. You know, the weapons that the S Rank girls take into the Labyrinths?... I'm listening.Alright, listen up. The Dusk Breakers aren't like the weapons that you or the Star Children use. You can't just change equipment to a more powerful one. The Dusk Breakers' performance can be changed by replacing the weapons' parts.That's how the girls' weapons get stronger, even if they don't look any different.That's less exciting than I was hoping for. Can't they add some decals, or change the color, or something? Where's the flair?update004-16 (Chlotz tells Wake that the weapons will be more powerful and he doesn't have to worry about looks) I disagree. Am I the only one around here that takes pride in their monster killing?Yeah, man. You are.Oh, and one more thing... You can supposedly get Dusk Breaker parts by completing quests and Labyrinths. That's all. Got it?I got it. I don't understand the logic behind any of it, but I got it. Thanks for playing messenger, I guess.If I didn't tell you, Chief Ruby would really yell at me.Wouldn't want that now would you? Not when you're getting so close to that reward.You're just jealous. Let's see how funny you are when I'm spending Star Festival night with Chief Ruby. Well, that's all I've got for you right now. See ya.*Chlotz leaves* (I mean, I should intervene... but I'm curious to see how long it takes for him to wind up like that idiot at the Academy.)
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Back in 9th and 10th grade, I would've been a sucker for Ruby's machinations. Come junior year, I would've been trying to manipulate her into wanting me for real. Probably would've failed horribly at that, but at least I wouldn't have been a sucker.
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Sword_of_Dusk posted:Back in 9th and 10th grade, I would've been a sucker for Ruby's machinations. Come junior year, I would've been trying to manipulate her into wanting me for real. Oh, no doubt. I make fun of the guys in this game for being strung along, but I'm not going to pretend that I would have been immune to that poo poo at that age. Hell, without the extreme depression/low self-esteem, I'd probably be a sucker for a woman like her at my current age. I could see myself being suckered. But I hate Ruby in the context of this game, so I make fun of the poor saps. I really should check in with the NPC disciples more often, see if there are any others like that one guy or Chlotz. I've been largely ignoring them since that one time I showed it off. Edit: No movement in the past few days, so I'll have to go and post this here. Psycho Knight fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Oct 30, 2018 |
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~Update 7: Warrior, Disciple, In me the Wishmaster~ All the heroine Bonding is done. Ellie was a creeper, but Wake actually did meet her before, when she nearly died and he said "No, don't do that." Narika locked up and then had some moron poo poo all over her, but then Narika kind of just picked herself up and got motivated all on her own, so Wake just kind of had to stand around and not do typical self-insert hero stuff. Chloe is a DJ now, and also an up-and-comer Idol, and she also has a dumb rear end in a top hat rival like Narika does. Except Chloe's dumb rear end in a top hat rival actually sort of has a point with his criticisms.  Enough of that crap! Time to get back to important story things. We're on our way to the second Dusk Circle, the Gluttony Labyrinth. Ellie joins us for this one, as she took 3rd place in the vote and Narika already went on a tour of the Lust Labyrinth. Okay, do the thing.Do I really have to?Yes. Yes you do.Well, okay then.  Key of the Star with powers burning bright, reveal the staff and shine your light! Release! How was that?Perfect. I think I have yours dialed in. I really wish the others were this easy.  -Gluttony Labyrinth-  What the hell are you doing on the line? Did you forget already? I'm a member of the lab staff too, you know. Oh crap, Chief Ruby's coming. See ya later! Chlotz, what are you doing!?Someone want to tell me what's happening over there? I'm not taking another step into this place until I'm sure the support team has it's poo poo in order.It's nothing, forget it. Chlotz was just on the communication equipment without permission. We didn't even teach him how to use it... He may be a dope, but he's pretty smart.Hey, there you go! You found your antithesis!Don't get smart with me.Anyway, that Circle has more Dusk Energy than the previous one you were in. Make sure you don't let your guard down.Yeah, yeah. I'm shaking in my boots after the nightmare that was Lust. I wish it was a Haunted House. Probably could have entered that Halloween LP contest. Anyway, let's bounce.  A note about these glowly ball things. You will run into these sometimes while roaming dungeons. They apply effects to the floor that you are currently on. Sometimes these effects are completely positive:  Like this one for instance. There's another effect that boosts the EXP gain from enemies on the floor, which is really helpful when training. Unfortunately, there are some of these that come with catches as well. This was the second completely positive one I ran into, but I hit a different kind of effect like four times in a row. Said effect boosted the item drop rate for the floor, but it also locked skills. That's not usually too much of a trade off, but locking skills prevents you from using Pickpocket, which is a massive pain when you're trying to steal Class Items.  Unfortunately, there's no way to tell what effect it is from a glance. You just have to chance it. If it's one you don't like, then you'll have to just find the floor advance portal and move on to get rid of it.  There are a couple of new enemies in the Gluttony Labyrinth. The first one is an upgraded version of Bootes, called Borgas. You can clearly see he is much more exciting. It's kind of weird how fast this game pulls out the palette swaps. This is the very start of the second dungeon and we already have three different colored versions of the starter enemy.  I want to point out some things in this shot. First of all, you can see that I'm finally using Team 3. This was actually an accident. I was bringing some rando Star Children along in the Sub-Labyrinths in order to raise them for City EXP, and I forgot to take them out before starting this one. I intended to take this dungeon on with just two teams again, but I was also too lazy to restart, so I just took them with me. Second of all, this shot is of me opening a Trap Chest. I have opened likely just north of 100 of these things so far and have still not been hit by a trap. I can't even tell you if the potential trap is particularly damaging or not, because I can't remember getting hit by anything from these things. I'm sure it'll bite me one day.  Our second new enemy is this kickass looking bear thing. This guy has no magic attack capabilities at all, he is all about mauling you to death. He has pretty good defense too. He's still weak.  Taking the portal to 4F causes our expedition to hit a road block. Namely, this poorly shopped in JPG over blurry rear end in-game textures.  Wake, you should get away from there at once. It seems that being in that area is decreasing your Ether Count.Yeah, that's probably a bad thing. Alright, everyone get away from the weird dimensional rock.Awwww...Hold on a moment, Wake! I'm sorry to have to ask this when I know you're not feeling well. Can you pick up a stone from the ground around you? One large one will do.Excuse me? You mean those things I was just told were basically radioactive?But Chief Ruby, those stones are affecting his Ether Count...That's why I'm only asking for one. Make sure you bring it.Pain in my goddamn rear end.Luna? Do you have a sack or something we can toss this in? I am not touching that with my bare hands.*Monsters start converging on us* Um, Wake? We kind of have a problem here...Of course we do. Looks like it has the power to draw monsters towards it.Chief Ruby, isn't it best if you gave up on getting that stone?Siding with Mark on this one.Definitely not. Wake, make your way back to the surface. Don't forget that stone!Son of a bitch! Everyone pull back! We need to go get this stupid rock shoved up Ruby's rear end!-Laboratory-  I brought it back, like you wanted. Now, either you start talking or I'll go right back there and drop it where I found it. Monster hordes be damned. What is this? I'm sure you've heard of it before. This stone is a crystallization of Dusk Energy. It's a Dark Crystal.Well that sure sounds like something I should be dragging back here. Dark Crystals are mystical stones. By holding it, one can absorb the Dusk Energy it contains into their own body. Absorbing Dusk Energy heightens desires and ambitions to an extreme level. As a result, one stops sensing various forms of physical or mental stress. There are even rumors that one can go without sleep with no ill effects.Just a friendly reminder, Dusk is not necessarily bad or evil. loving with your body's natural balance though? However, long-term usage has serious side effects like headaches or violent thoughts. That is why using them is outlawed.But, rumor has it that many of society's most successful people secretly use them. Of course, anyone accused of this denies such claims.Dark Crystals are basically fantasy steroids. Technically a natural part of your body, pumping yourself full of them pushes your capabilities higher, and they have some nasty side-effects with long-term use that means you really shouldn't be abusing them.  Also, there's something you didn't know, since you weren't alive at the time... These stones aren't natural to this world. They first appeared 18 years ago. Ever since then, underground dealers have been in constant search of them. Still, I've never seen one this large before....Don't even think about it, Ruby.Okay, so it's big. What else? I'm sure there's something more to it.On top of that, the purity of the Dusk Energy is over 60%. The highest purity that's ever been seen on the black market is just below 20%. The Dusk Labyrinths are truly a treasure house of riches. Chief Ruby, you shouldn't sound so happy about that.Siding with Mark again. That sounds absurdly dangerous, Ruby. You are loving with forces way beyond your control.But if we research this, we'll be able to learn more about the conditions inside. We owe you a debt. Thank you.Noooo. Do not thank me. I want no part of this stupid little endeavor that you're about to embark on. I don't want my name being connected to this in any way. I'm out.I'm sure that will go fine. Ruby has been nothing but competent and cautious and not a total screw-up. Time to hit the showers and relax after a hard day's work. -Showers- I can't believe those things are just lying around inside Dusk Circles. She better not ask me to bring any more of those back.I should also keep this a secret from her. I'm sure she'd try and capitalize on it. I don't need one of my Star kids winding up on a government wanted list.  .....Oh, it's just you.So you've gone into the next Dusk Circle. I haven't heard that the second Dusk Spawner has been defeated, though.Yeah, I kind of had to run an ill-advised errand for Ruby. Calm your junk, man. I have this under control. Fine, fine... You checkin' me out? See something you like?We don't need your immature attempt at humor here. It's just...Looks good? Stop that!You carry the burden, and the honor, of carrying out the missions into the Circles. You should train yourself better. That's all.Trust me, my current level of training is more than enough for those things. The first Dusk Spawner fell over dead while me and Narika were shooting the breeze. I've got this handled.Looks like Alec does care, in his own 'stick up the rear end' kind of way. The concern is appreciated Alec, but entirely unnecessary. The only risk the Dusk Circles have posed so far is you falling asleep from boredom. What else we got... Maybe we can catch Ruby making herself look bad again. -Laboratory- Hey. Just here to use Redux.Hm? You going somewhere?  I'd rather not attend.Hold on. Joint meeting? There are other labs here?Oh, you didn't know? Fort City has three major labs, each with its own specialization.Ours is in charge of development. Another one specializes in analysis.And the last is the research department, which Enzea personally oversees.Star, I hate the leader of the analysis team so much! Did you know that he tried to give me a "detailed analysis" of my face? There's nothing that will make me get over that! That bastard. I'll kill him one day.Oh my, it's time to go. To go kill that man. See you around.(Oh dear Star God... Don't say anything, Wake. It's just going to get you worked up and pissed off.)Hey! Redux dude! Crank that sucker up! I've got some stress to relieve!So not only is Power-Trip Ruby not the Chief Researcher at AngelMarker, she's not even the Chief Researcher of the Fort City lab. She's only the Chief Researcher of the R&D portion of AngelMarker's Fort City division. The longer this game goes on the lower on the corporate ladder we learn Ruby is. And why the gently caress is the R&D Lab in charge of God's Gift's Dusk Circle missions? Shouldn't the Research department or Analysis department be in charge of that poo poo? At the very least this should be a joint venture between all three departments. Whatever. Ruby is dumb and her authority is now sitting around 'Shift Manager at McDonald's' level. That's the important part. I still can't get over how highly she thinks of herself. -Gluttony Labyrinth-  You and me both, Felicia. Anyway, that was a nice little diversion, but it's time to get back to Gluttony. You can thankfully pick up from the same floor where the story kicked you out. That's one thing this game does right with it's Dungeon Crawling.  New enemies on the docket. This weird guy is Crux. High accuracy (for what that's worth), and sort of fast. He's got pretty good HP though.   I missed the in-game shot of these horses, so here's the database entries. Not much to them.  Occasionally the fountains you find in dungeons can restore BP. The purple fountains give out 100BP, and it's almost always a nice find. Unless you went out of your way to max out your BP before coming in here, then this will always be appreciated. It might only save you some Bond Event skipping, but even that is welcome considering it takes a second to grab this.  Random Jukebox things also sometimes appear. These are in-dungeon item shops. The Merchant class gets a skill relatively early on that can just do this whenever. It costs 300MP, but you can buy the MP Restore Item needed to get that back for pennies from that very store, if you have somehow completely blown out your stock. These things, and shop summoning in general, aren't really useful. If you need something from the shop, you can easily just leave the Labyrinth, buy what you need, then pick up on the same floor you left off on.  Maybe it's because of my JRPG shopping habits, but I always stock up on all the essentials the second I get back to a town. If money was tighter or the difficulty higher, I could see the use in this, but as it stands it's rarely useful. This will be useful for one thing though. It's time I do another item update. I'll go over every new item I have when I get some wiggle room in an update. Cursed Stone: Deals a little damage and might lower enemy LUC, but it also might lower your own. This is worthless. Script Items: Script Items deal heavy damage and might cause various effects, such as Seal/Poison/Paralysis/Lower ATK/Lower DEF/Lower MAT, you get the idea. There's some equipment choices as well, but we're still picking up better stuff within Dungeons. The girls only get Armor and Weapon upgrades from doing Quests, and Wake is still rocking the DLC weapon for now.  One nice thing to point own, Gun using classes are really adaptable if you want to take advantage of the Elemental bonuses. They get immediate access to different elemental guns that can change their attacks to whatever you want.  There's a special quest enemy you can find in here as well that gives a nice reward once we manage to kill three of them. You need to pick up the quest for it though.  Apus has a neat harpy design and is actually pretty quick. This doesn't help it when you sneak up from behind and start the battle with an Advantage though. Wake/Ellie kill it with a single Ultimate Slash Storm to its weak point. Gluttony 6F - Apus and Beelzebub fights  Here's what we want. Beelzebub is the Dusk Spawner for the second Labyrinth. It will not be faring any better than Asmodeus. It doesn't even get a cool anime cutscene! I mean, how am I supposed to take that thing seriously? Honestly? Its Dusk Energy is obviously much stronger than the previous one.Yo, Wake! Looks like you've run into a pretty strong monster there!Chlotz, now is really not the time to be playing with the equipment.Don't be an rear end. I'm trying to help.But, from what I can tell... It looks like this one's skilled at wind spells. Also, it has an annoying attack that drains your HP, too. Keep an eye on your remaining HP while you're fighting it.Chlotz, move aside! Listen up, Wake. Make sure you always have your guard up.Yeah, I'm sure I'll need complete focus for this.We can't allow this opponent to continue living. Let's take it down!Yeah, that's what I like to hear. Chlotz gives you a little heads up on what the boss is capable of before you jump into the fight. It's not great help, but it is usable help. That's more than we can say about Ruby's. When playing this as any ol' first time player would, Beelzebub might be.... man, why am I even trying? Beelzebub is really fast, it can lower your speed, and it has high defenses and blah blah Crossbolg blah.  Why does Ellie look like she's 8 years old in that shot? Am I crazy or has she always looked like she was 8?    This is Ellie's Seventh Burst with Wake, Crossbolg. It hits for 5000 damage and change on Beelzebub's weak spot and shaves off over a third of its health bar.  Beelze's turn is next, but I get distracted by the fact that MECUNITE is currently possible, so I have Team B transform to see if I can get a different type of MEC.  Two Grapplers and a Swordis combine to make a robot with a laser cannon arm. Sure. This MECUNITE has a spike to its TEC stat, which isn't all that helpful. Maybe that means it won't dish out the absurd damage that Team A(wful)'s did.     Never mind, that still hits like a truck.   Beelzebub then gets its only turn this battle, tries to cast SPD Sapper on Team B's MEC, and it misses. Likely because its TEC just got neutered by Team B's 'Code TEC' attack.   *sigh* Team A(wful) tries to Pickpocket, just to see if it has anything, but turns up nothing. It then falls over dead and we get pitiful EXP, decent Glow, and a trophy. Just... just seal it away guys. I don't want to look at it anymore.   Seriously. I know these are the 'young' Dusk Circles that aren't super dangerous, but come on. Kinda feels like you could have sent a regular team in here and managed to seal it. Dusk Spawner is caged. We're heading back....Hm? Wake, wait a sec.What is it? You're not going to ask me to bring you a souvenir too, are you?Well, I mean it would be-- No. No. There's something else.I thought I saw someone in the back just now...Excuse me? I thought I was supposed to be the only one able to survive in here. Where are they?Look further in the back, on your right-hand side.*gasp* I see them. Over there!God drat it, Ruby. Are those what I think they are? How the hell did they get all the way in here? We're like 7 floors deep.No way... Aren't those AngelMarker uniforms...?Chlotz, you're in my way. Wake, the Dusk Spawner has been sealed. Come back at once.You mind filling me in on what the hell this is?I'll explain when you get back.Yes. Yes you will. Assuming you want to see the sun rise tomorrow morning.-E.S. Savage- [Announcement]: Congratulations on completing your mission. We are now passing over the main continent.  Things should start calming down around here now, though. That should give them some breathing room.This is the shot I mentioned previously in the thread. We can see that both Standard and Elite class Disciples are using rifles in their fight against monsters. So the monsters seem to be vulnerable to regular firearms, unless those guns are some kind of specialty Star Energy/Ether rifles. The Standard Disciples should still theoretically have enough power to use weapons like that I suppose. I would assume that they have to be some kind of energy rifles. If those were standard firearms, then you'd think that there would be adult soldiers down there fighting back as well, rather than leaving it all on the shoulders of teenagers. I don't recall it being clarified, however. So it's still not clear as to just how effective regular weapons are against monsters. I mean, we've already seen Wake kill multiple monsters with just a normal sword. Alec seems to use one as well, so it couldn't just be because of Wake's God's Gift energy. Questions, questions, questions. I wish the game would get more in depth about this kind of stuff. At least hand wave it. -Laboratory- All the active Dusk Circles have now been sterilized. I guess congratulations are in order!Shut your rear end, Ruby. You tell me what the hell it was we saw back there. Now.What back where?Don't pull that poo poo with me. You give me answers right now or I cleave your head in two. I warned you about keeping secrets from me. You're sending civilians into the Labyrinths?In order for us to research Dusk Circles, we had to have an idea of what was inside.So you sent them on a suicide mission, then.It's thanks to those sacrifices that you're able to fight right now.And, as adults... We can't just let you children face all the danger.Well you could have fooled me. It sure as hell doesn't feel like any adults have my back.-AngelMarker Lab-  *sigh* To think they're marching ordinary people into those death mazes. It's been 20 years, I know full well that the world had to try and make progress against these things, but sending a bunch of scientists out to die just to take pictures doesn't sit right with me.You better not end up like that in one of the Labyrinths, okay?That won't happen. I promise.Well, see you back at the Academy.That sure was a fun revelation. I guess ol' Beelzebub was at least strong enough to fight off some field researchers. I don't know what that says about us, it, or them. There's still a little bit more to this chapter. Let's keep it going. -School Gate- What the--? What's with the crowd? I mean, you could certainly try. You're probably not going to get any of their attentions with Enzea standing there in the middle of them, though.Hey, you're right! I heard this from a girl in class... But supposedly Enzea has a fanclub here at the Academy.So those are all fangirls for him?Why does it seem like everyone at this Academy has a fan club except for me? God's Gift walks in and the most positive reaction I elicit is "Oh, wow. You're God's Gift?"You sound pretty bitter, man.I'm getting there.There's something else I was told by a girl on the student council. A state-of-the-art astronomical telescope was set up at the Academy yesterday. Apparently it was personally donated by Enzea.Seriously!? Isn't something like that worth a mansion? Or ten mansions!?Man, he's famous AND rich! I can't wait to be like him someday!You are just a glutton for punishment, aren't you? You went through this same thing a few weeks ago with becoming an S Rank. I'm telling you, you really have to lower that bar.You'll see... I don't really like him...Hey, Torri. Why do you say that? Shall I put together a special event for you, Torri? I'm interested in this. What sort of event?We can go look at the Star God in the night sky with that new telescope.You mean so you can go check out the telescope. Don't try and frame it like it's a treat for Torri.Let's not get bogged down with petty details. Sneaking out of the dorms at night will be fun, too! Do you think we can sneak out that easily?Huh...? Why are you suddenly volunteering to go along with this, Fuuko? I want to go. It sounds fun. Wake is not a strict rules adherance kind of guy. Plus, he doesn't really get a choice either way. Might as well go with the flow. Yeah, I'll join in. I'd be lying if I said it didn't sound interesting. Plus, I don't want to miss you screwing something up or getting caught.You realize that you'd be an accomplice, right?Yeah, but I'm God's Gift. You're all screwed without me. I'd be fine.Well, it's decided, then. Let's meet up by the telescope tonight!-Rooftop- So this is it, huh? And so, everyone sneaked out to have a gander at the big incredibly expensive telescope. This includes both Ellie and Serina, who I guess were told about the gathering by the others. Narika also came along, which is surprising since she is the Vice Class President. You'd think she would have narked everyone out. Way to be cool Narika. I'm glad we were all able to sneak out of the dorms, though.My heart's still pounding... Your heartbeat is quite rapid.Eeek! T-Torri! Don't touch my chest like that.*sigh* That surprised me...Is your heart pounding too, Serina? Huh? N-No! I'm perfectly calm! There's no need to touch me!Torri has no concept of personal space. Not much time left to guess her character archetype before I just spell it out. I will be deeply ashamed if you haven't managed to figure it out. It's not like there's anything there to touch anyway...*Chlotz gets slapped this time. About time somebody did it.* I was just kidding! Staaar!Ahaha...Real Ellie goes 'Ahehe' all the time. I'm on to you Impostor Ellie.  Still... I'll be fine because I live at home, but is everyone else going to be alright?The S Rank Men's Dorm consists of like, me and Alec at the moment. There's not really anyone around to catch me. Um... I'm prepared to be yelled at a little by our RA.H-Huh? Do you expect to get caught?If anyone finds out we snuck in here, we'll get more than just a tongue-lashing.Huh? We're sneaking in?I thought you needed a key card to get into Academy facilities like this. Didn't you make a request to borrow it?Tadaaa! I borrowed my sister's key card!Huh, we are missing someone, aren't we? Makes sense that a teacher wouldn't encourage behavior like this, I suppose. Oh, Star God... Please forgive this great sin we have committed...Don't sweat it Narika. If I know Star God, he's going to enjoy this. Wait for it...It's fine. No one's going to find out. Well, we might get suspended if they find out.At the very least, you will be.S-Sis!?Did you come to see the stars too, Ms. Chloe? (That's disappointing. I was kind of expecting more from this.)If they find out I stole her key card, her trustworthiness will be questioned.*Chloe loving decks Chlotz* There it is. That's the good stuff.Ow, that hurt, Sis...Let's ignore this idiot.Considering you've come all this way, shall we observe the Star God together?Some people here might receive His favor at the Star Conception Festival, after all!The Star Conception Festival?It's a party held by the Academy at the end of winter. The boys ask girls out. Couples that are blessed by the Star God will be granted eternal happiness. Not everything has to.I don't think I'll be receiving His favor, either.Me neither...Yeah...Why is everyone so passive about this!?Pessimistic seems like the more appropriate word. Seriously, none of you think a guy will ask you out?Why aren't any of you considering someone might ask you out?Right? Seriously guys, have some faith in yourselves.Exactly! I mean...Wake, out of all of us, whom would you rather ask out?Excuse me!?Well, I certainly don't want to ask Chlotz. What if he picked me?You're my sister!Besides, we all know you're going to ask Luce to the festival, right, Chlotz?Now there's a name I haven't heard before. I think she's a first-year in the Standard class...Is that so? Here I thought you only had eyes for the Elites.Hey! I-It's nothing! Stop bringing up things that don't need bringing up, Sis! Wow, even his ears are bright red.Is your heart pounding too, Chlotz?*Torri invades Chlotz' space* Torri, you don't need to touch my chest!Aren't we talking about Wake right now, anyway?So, who from this group would you ask to the Star Conception Festival? You can't say "nobody", all right?Dammit, I'd hoped everyone had moved on from that.Just go with the flow, Wake! Wake is forced to make this choice. For what it's worth, this has zero impact on anything aside from a slight increase in Bond. In the interest of fairness, here is what each of our current focus heroines have to say when selected: Chloe: Hm? Me? I'm grateful for all you've taught me, after all.I'm not sure if teachers are even allowed to participate in the festival...Narika: H-Huh? M-Me!?We sit next to each other in class all day, after all.True, we do sit next to each other.Ellie: What!? Me? Wh-Why's that?Well... You were looking right at me just now.Huh...? Th-That's the only reason?Official Wake is boring. LP Wake is way better, and I'm not just saying that because I write his lines. Regardless of who you choose, the rest of this dialogue proceeds exactly the same. It's only a hypothetical, anyway. Let's not get too excited about this.Well, let's call it a night! Make sure you all get back to your dorms without anyone finding out!-School Grounds- Hm? Aren't you going home, Torri?I'm going to look at the stars here for a little longer.I see...Of all these stars in the sky... Is one of them the Star God?So they say. Even when we're in the classroom, I see you gazing out the window a lot. Do you like the sky? Of course she has a bird/freedom symbolism thing. Her name is Torri and she's always in the lab. What did you expect? I... also admire a world in which one can freely fly. We're the same, then.Were you at the research lab before, too?...Research lab? No, I wasn't in any place like that. I was... and will continue to be... in the Church. Ellie, you don't look happy. Are you OK?Oh... I'm sorry. It's dark out, so I shouldn't let myself get gloomy, too. I guess that's what makes me such an idiot.I'm sure a time will come in the future in which you'll be able to fly freely, too........Yes, you're right.You still don't look happy, Ellie. Are you really OK?H-Huh? Do I still look that bad?Oh, a shooting star.Huh? You're right! I need to make a wish! ....Ellie, were you able to make a wish?Yes, I did. What did you wish for?I wished that you would be able to fly freely one day.Torri...Wishes made on shooting stars always come true. Does knowing that cheer you up?Yes, it really does! Thank you, Torri.Good. You do seem more cheerful than before.Because we're both first-years...Let's continue to help Wake together.We'll do our best together! There was a shooting star, and I didn't get to make a wish before it went away! Stupid shooting star! Get back here so I can wish on you!I missed it too. Well, better luck next time I guess.You're both still here?We took the trouble to sneak out of the dorms, after all. It's just dumb to run straight back to our rooms without enjoying this time out!What were you going to wish for, Chlotz? If you tell me, I'll make that wish for you the next time I see a shooting star.Really?I was going to wish that Luce would... Oh... Um... N-Never mind.Why?Huh? Um... O-Oh, right!Things like this don't work if you don't make these wishes yourself, right?Chlotz...Were you going to wish that you could be closer to Luce?Huh!? How'd you figure that out!? Are you... Are you a psychic, Ellie!?No, uh... It was kind of obvious...Ugh! This is so embarrassing! You totally know! Oh crap, it's Sis.Let's retreat, Ellie.Ah, right! Good-bye, guys!On that note, we will also say good-bye. Good-bye to Chapter 2, that is. Torri was hanging around for that entire last part, but I didn't introduce her because she still isn't officially in the party. That will happen in Chapter 3. Chapter 3 will be up in the next update. The stick in Alec's rear end suddenly gets way bigger, we'll find out who this 'Luce' is that Chlotz is crushing on, and we'll get an early look at our final party member. Psycho Knight fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Oct 31, 2018 |
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Huh. So the monsters are basically Meth Elementals.
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It's nice that you can at least guess the names of the next 5 bosses, even if you don't know the order.
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I'm probably way off mark here, but Alec is giving me a Rose of Versailles vibe, as in father dearest wanted a son so much he didn't let little things like the son being a daughter get in the way.
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