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https://twitter.com/TXCivilRights/status/1055510081595420672 Oh, well alright then, as long as you say so 
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get with the program and switch to paper ballots like denton county geeze
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Oct 26, 2018 02:55
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I. M. Gei posted:Good lord those Smith County numbers are low as poo poo. Wouldn't shock me if some of them got "lost."
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Office Pig posted:https://twitter.com/TXCivilRights/status/1055510081595420672 I keep thinking when they say turn of the century they mean 1900.
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Office Pig posted:https://twitter.com/TXCivilRights/status/1055510081595420672 Trumpers were complaining about their votes getting switched to Hillary when voting straight ticket in 2016, it's a real issue E: and if you were going to tamper with the software to record a different vote than was entered why would you show the voter the altered vote VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 03:28 on Oct 26, 2018 |
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Oct 26, 2018 03:25
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VitalSigns posted:Trumpers were complaining about their votes getting switched to Hillary when voting straight ticket in 2016, it's a real issue To cause distrust in our electoral process.
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Oct 26, 2018 03:30
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Spacebump posted:Wouldn't shock me if some of them got "lost." That’s the thing, though. Even if somebody only threw out the Beto votes, there’d probably still be at least one in there for Cruz.
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I. M. Gei posted:That’s the thing, though. Even if somebody only threw out the Beto votes, there’d probably still be at least one in there for Cruz. Unless they were overwhelmingly for Beto and it made more sense to throw a small amount of Cruz one's out. (instead of only 8 mail ins and all of them were Cruz.) About a decade ago when I still had to vote there, I tried to vote by mail in ballot. Several friends checked for me to make sure everything was done correctly. A few weeks later they sent me back a letter saying it wasn't filled out correctly and would be thrown out. I know there was nothing wrong with the ballot. I don't trust mail in ballots for Smith County. Spacebump fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Oct 26, 2018 |
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Oct 26, 2018 04:26
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Do they run widespread tests on these machines before an election? It seems like they ought to hold some kind of mock test election where officials hold a "simulated vote" with known vote counts for several test races/candidates, and compare that to the electronically-tabulated results to make sure things are working as intended.
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Number_6 posted:Do they run widespread tests on these machines before an election? It seems like they ought to hold some kind of mock test election where officials hold a "simulated vote" with known vote counts for several test races/candidates, and compare that to the electronically-tabulated results to make sure things are working as intended. lmao
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Oct 26, 2018 04:41
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Number_6 posted:Do they run widespread tests on these machines before an election? It seems like they ought to hold some kind of mock test election where officials hold a "simulated vote" with known vote counts for several test races/candidates, and compare that to the electronically-tabulated results to make sure things are working as intended. omg lol Yeah Texas loves spending tax money on functioning services instead of redirecting it to graft
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Oct 26, 2018 04:49
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PostNouveau posted:Probably not! Although I can think of a couple of people on the dialer who I think I've swayed, it's a vanishingly small amount. That makes way more sense than what I had in my head. On an unrelated note there wasn't a line today, I saw some really old dude fall out trying to vote, Ignored a bunch of word salad rear end local propositions, and was the youngest person there by at least 25 years. 9/10 would vote early again
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Office Pig posted:https://twitter.com/TXCivilRights/status/1055510081595420672 I find it absolutely 100% plausible that the machines are designed such that errors like this aren't uncommon, through sheer incompetence. VitalSigns posted:Trumpers were complaining about their votes getting switched to Hillary when voting straight ticket in 2016, it's a real issue Relatedly, this.
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Voted today in the western part of Travis county which translates to not a long wait. I spent 8 minutes from the time I entered the polling location until I left. +1 for Beto but most of the folks I saw voting were middle aged to older white folks which in my part of town probably means all Ted Cruz :/ Also, lol at the national media that is shocked and surprised that Hegar is down 15+ points despite a slick commercial.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:I find it absolutely 100% plausible that the machines are designed such that errors like this aren't uncommon, through sheer incompetence. I guess I should’ve been a little clearer that my dismay is at a civil rights org having to dispel ‘conspiracy to change votes’ from people’s minds. Given how badly everyone is freaking out it was probably necessary, yet unheard. It’s Gallego, come the gently caress on. Yeah I’m a little irked by this, we can induce cancers our own making thanks. ded redd fucked around with this message at 08:28 on Oct 26, 2018 |
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Oct 26, 2018 08:26
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Number_6 posted:Do they run widespread tests on these machines before an election? It seems like they ought to hold some kind of mock test election where officials hold a "simulated vote" with known vote counts for several test races/candidates, and compare that to the electronically-tabulated results to make sure things are working as intended. 
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Oct 26, 2018 09:05
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there's like 10,000 proofs of concept of someone hacking into a voting machine and arbitrarily changing the vote totals to whatever they feel like. basically every defcon conference every year a few hackers present results where they play the voting machines like pianos. but the point of voting machines is not to perform their purportes purpose of accurately tabulating votes but rather to be an extremely expensive computer for the government to buy. just like the insanely expensive x-ray machines at the airport that are less effective than metal detectors, or the f-35.
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cool https://twitter.com/leahmcelrath/status/1055631800083640320?s=20
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We were just posting about this upthread.
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i didn't check the final screen because i was sure whose boxes i checked while voting now i guess i'm not sure who i voted for
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i say swears online posted:i didn't check the final screen because i was sure whose boxes i checked while voting In hindsight I'm glad today was the day I set aside time for voting, yet also... kind of not? It's sobering knowing you're walking in there with countless people preceding you probably not having noticed that their votes may have been partly invalidated on the way out.
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Oct 26, 2018 09:37
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And we still don't have any water rofl
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Oct 26, 2018 09:38
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i'm glad i can stock up since i work overnight in lakeway at a place with extremely stealable supplies
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Oct 26, 2018 11:44
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Two things: why the gently caress would anyone vote straight party on these dumbass machines, and isn't that picture highly illegal?
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Oct 26, 2018 12:31
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So if you vote straight party, you can still make individual selections. Not saying something isn't going wrong with the machine, but it is fairly trivial to stage that screen for a quick picture and then go back and change the vote.
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Oct 26, 2018 12:35
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Zil posted:So if you vote straight party, you can still make individual selections. Not saying something isn't going wrong with the machine, but it is fairly trivial to stage that screen for a quick picture and then go back and change the vote. It's also literally the first race you can select on this ballot, which makes it easy to gently caress up if you're futzing with the controls trying to figure out what does what
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Oct 26, 2018 12:47
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GreyjoyBastard posted:I find it absolutely 100% plausible that the machines are designed such that errors like this aren't uncommon, through sheer incompetence. It's almost always calibration issues with the touch screens since they use the cheapest touch screens possible and design the ballot using a mouse instead of the touch screen and then hand them over to old people who don't understand computers and tell them to regularly run the calibration program to "fix" the issues.
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duz posted:It's almost always calibration issues with the touch screens since they use the cheapest touch screens possible and design the ballot using a mouse instead of the touch screen and then hand them over to old people who don't understand computers and tell them to regularly run the calibration program to "fix" the issues. They aren't touch screen, you select with a little clicky wheel. If you select straight party and you're still dicking with the wheel because you're not sure if you got it since the screen updates slow as gently caress, it will change your selection for the topline race, in this case senator. This happens every year Trump, Gov. Abbott weigh in on claims that Texas machines changed Trump votes to Clinton
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In Nueces County, mine was touch screen. No wheels, just literally tapping the box of the person you want to vote for. I didn't vote straight ticket so I don't have any cool stories about the machine changing my vote, but I did spend a couple minutes on the review screen making sure.
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Oct 26, 2018 13:53
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Yeah this is the voting machine equivalent of your computer being a bit slow loading whatever and by the time it gets around to registering your frantic clicks or keystrokes things have moved and you opened fifteen copies of the wrong folder or put your name on the address field. The machines are pieces of poo poo and need to be scrapped, preferably for hand marked optical scan ballots. Just print them out on demand using tracked numbered paper so we can keep the "vote at any precinct" convenience.
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If the voting machines were sufficiently compromised to change your vote deliberately, they would be sufficiently compromised not to tell you that they had done so IMO.
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https://www.kxan.com/news/local/hays/texas-state-students-say-limited-chances-to-vote-on-campus-is-voter-suppression/1550365721 They were talking about this on the KLBJ FM morning show. The only bright side to all of these voter suppression efforts is that one of the most effective ways to get someone to do something, especially young people is to tell them that they can't.
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Oct 26, 2018 15:44
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Blah blah blah less words better pictures please
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Not sure how to feel about this. https://twitter.com/blakefox4news/status/1055610011001540608?s=21
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saintonan posted:In Nueces County, mine was touch screen. No wheels, just literally tapping the box of the person you want to vote for. I didn't vote straight ticket so I don't have any cool stories about the machine changing my vote, but I did spend a couple minutes on the review screen making sure. Oh ok, the complaints I've been seeing for years is all about the clicky wheel machines like we have in Travis County because the screens take a second to load and the controls aren't locked during loading so it's easy to accidentally change your selection on page 1 before page 2 comes up. But yeah miscalibrated touch screens can also cause problems with recording wrong selections if you're not double-checking. These are the machines we have that typically cause problems.  And yes every year I mash the screen before remembering "oh yeah it's not touchscreen it's got buttons like the first generation kindle"
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Another vote for Beto and the Texas Dems (and yes, I checked. The spinny clicky wheel was fairly firm so it didn't bug out on me). Thought it was funny that as soon as I got home I found a Beto mailer in the mail.
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yeah young people surging in voting is the only way the blue wave would actually materialize and would be completely missed by likely voter screens the republicans know this better than the democrats which is why they have been trying to prevent them from voting for years and years
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duz posted:It's almost always calibration issues with the touch screens since they use the cheapest touch screens possible and design the ballot using a mouse instead of the touch screen and then hand them over to old people who don't understand computers and tell them to regularly run the calibration program to "fix" the issues. I think this was one of the wheel-and-button widgets, but yeah, touchscreens are extremely fucky. IT BURNS posted:Two things: why the gently caress would anyone vote straight party on these dumbass machines, and isn't that picture highly illegal? depends on the state, but yes, in Texas also, i'm not sure i'd describe a class C misdemeanor as 'highly' also it's as illegal as operating your cell phone in any capacity within the Magic Circle (100 feet of polling place) so yes if law enforcement decides they need to raise some money they can cite her for $500 for the twitter picture
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Shear Modulus posted:yeah young people surging in voting is the only way the blue wave would actually materialize and would be completely missed by likely voter screens Which is probably why Ted has been freaking out. His internal polls are probably showing more and more young people voting, and the fact that the Kavanaugh fight means there's a good chunk of women who are suddenly not nearly as supportive of the Republicans is why he's been running scared and his ads have had such a desperate "slapped together at the last minute" air.
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