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RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

Trabisnikof posted:

I honestly don’t think that was the most significant US news day in years. Maybe weeks or this month. It was a tragic day and certainly had some attention worthy headlines, but significant?

What did it really change?

President of US deflects ownership of domestic terrorist hat trick and not one post.

I'm being hyperbolic but the thread served no purpose in that context.

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Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
Isn't Trumpchat supposed to go in the Trumpthread?

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Cerebral Bore posted:

Isn't Trumpchat supposed to go in the Trumpthread?

If Trump chat goes in the Trump thread and Dem chat goes in the Thunderdome that doesnt leave much for USPol then. Were you planning on having a discussion on the finer points of PSL's platform?

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Not a Step posted:

If Trump chat goes in the Trump thread and Dem chat goes in the Thunderdome that doesnt leave much for USPol then. Were you planning on having a discussion on the finer points of PSL's platform?

Because, as we all know, all of the politics in the United States of America can be neatly divided into these two categories.

Heck Yes! Loam!
Nov 15, 2004

a rich, friable soil containing a relatively equal mixture of sand and silt and a somewhat smaller proportion of clay.
I posted this original study, and it generated some good discussion. The follow up is pretty much exactly the conclusion of many in this thread.

https://twitter.com/doctorow/status/1056579517152522240

Oh no people work less and get paid more. A small benefit to some, but still better to all.

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


Cerebral Bore posted:

Isn't Trumpchat supposed to go in the Trumpthread?

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Cerebral Bore posted:

Because, as we all know, all of the politics in the United States of America can be neatly divided into these two categories.

Turns out America is super polarized. Who would have thought? But if youre not discussing third parties or the biggest news stories of the cycle (because its Trump chat) then what were you discussing and debating? Third Way politics as the saviour?

galagazombie
Oct 31, 2011

A silly little mouse!
The Trump thread is packed with centrist hacks, but like half the people there are from this thread or elsewhere calling them out. So I don't understand the hate. Like I'm all for calling out Poster X or moronic centrist position Y but a huge chunk of that thread is the people here saying how bad the people who post in that thread are.

Prester Jane
Nov 4, 2008

by Hand Knit

galagazombie posted:

The Trump thread is packed with centrist hacks, but like half the people there are from this thread or elsewhere calling them out. So I don't understand the hate. Like I'm all for calling out Poster X or moronic centrist position Y but a huge chunk of that thread is the people here saying how bad the people who post in that thread are.

Residual frustration from when breaking groupthink in the Trump thread would get you probated or worse. LK has done a good job turning things around in the past couple weeks though and should get some serious kudos for that.

That said (and this is coming from someone who intentionally steps on Centrist toes) Jesus Christ peoples- tone it down a bit in there. Especially right now when the worst Centrists are radio silent.

Kilroy
Oct 1, 2000

galagazombie posted:

The Trump thread is packed with centrist hacks, but like half the people there are from this thread or elsewhere calling them out. So I don't understand the hate. Like I'm all for calling out Poster X or moronic centrist position Y but a huge chunk of that thread is the people here saying how bad the people who post in that thread are.
That used to be extremely probatable for being off topic while 10 page derails about whether cats are better than dogs was given a pass.

Trump thread has been "USPOL, only you can't poo poo talk Democrats except in the most deferential tone possible, and probably not even then" for well over a year. And I can't tell if it still is that way or if most of us have just given up to let them have their safe space. Probably a little of both.

galagazombie
Oct 31, 2011

A silly little mouse!

Prester Jane posted:

Residual frustration from when breaking groupthink in the Trump thread would get you probated or worse. LK has done a good job turning things around in the past couple weeks though and should get some serious kudos for that.

Yea, I remember in the run-up to to 2016 how it was a mortal sin to say that Hillary and the establishment were doing anything but a flawless masterpiece of a campaign. But once reality came calling the thread has nearly as many "Democrats Bad" posts as this one.

Big Hubris
Mar 8, 2011


No, pointing out that the resistance is a t-shirt brand and not a movement or even a campaign got one yelled at quite mightily.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

galagazombie posted:

Yea, I remember in the run-up to to 2016 how it was a mortal sin to say that Hillary and the establishment were doing anything but a flawless masterpiece of a campaign. But once reality came calling the thread has nearly as many "Democrats Bad" posts as this one.

I disagree with your assessment of the amount of and reception of the "democrats bad" posts in the Trump thread, it is still a centrist hivemind that starts going "okay enough dems bad chat" the second they get pissy.

:qq: Guys if you're mean to the Dems online then you're hurting their election chances :qq:

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
Just respond with the Tiffany's safety pin and watch them melt down.

Kilroy
Oct 1, 2000

galagazombie posted:

Yea, I remember in the run-up to to 2016 how it was a mortal sin to say that Hillary and the establishment were doing anything but a flawless masterpiece of a campaign. But once reality came calling the thread has nearly as many "Democrats Bad" posts as this one.
Meanwhile Guyovich is assiduously taking notes on this thread and the Trump thread, noting down who's going to be in the third purge :f5:

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin
When a mod would shout in bold "shut up about dogs" that would end it for a few days, but literally every story about Trump can be responded with "oh yeah, but what is the Dem response?" And you'd have the exact same posts by the exact same posters saying the exact same thing.
It's a TVIV thread, not a serious discussion thread.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

HootTheOwl posted:

It's a TVIV thread, not a serious discussion thread.

This is always the defense, but the forum name is Debate and Discussion.

Move it to TVIV if you want it to be a TVIV thread.

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

drilldo squirt posted:

Can i just say using yt instead of white is weird to me but I cant put my finger on why.

Do you pronounce the letters in "lol" or read it as a word?

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


HootTheOwl posted:

When a mod would shout in bold "shut up about dogs" that would end it for a few days, but literally every story about Trump can be responded with "oh yeah, but what is the Dem response?" And you'd have the exact same posts by the exact same posters saying the exact same thing.
It's a TVIV thread, not a serious discussion thread.

why does D&D need a permanent TVIV thread?

HootTheOwl posted:

Do you pronounce the letters in "lol" or read it as a word?

i pronounce the letters of every acronym. it's gui not gooey

Kilroy
Oct 1, 2000

Condiv posted:

i pronounce the letters of every acronym. it's gui not gooey
gif?

also I used to be the same way with gui until I worked at a place where everyone said gooey, and it eventually rubbed off because I just couldn't be annoyed by it forever :sweatdrop:

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

WampaLord posted:

This is always the defense, but the forum name is Debate and Discussion.

Move it to TVIV if you want it to be a TVIV thread.

You're going to have to close a lot of thread here in dnd if you want serious debate and discussion in them.
well, actually, the forum is demented words of violence and death which if that doesn't describe Trump what does?

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

The Kavanaugh hearings extra broke the Trump thread since people didn’t want to hear that he might get confirmed.

Polyseme
Sep 6, 2009

GROUCH DIVISION

Condiv posted:


i pronounce the letters of every acronym. it's gui not gooey

laser?

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Condiv posted:

i pronounce the letters of every acronym. it's gui not gooey

i do this but i do say "lol" as a word.

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

I say Graphic Interchange Format every single time. I also enjoy looking at pictures in the Joint Photographic Experts Group format.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
If y'all want the bad libs TVIV thread just read the Real Time With Bill Maher thread. It's a snake pit of bad libs.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer
I am reading this thread guys and taking your feedback, but I’m out with family right now.

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

Condiv posted:

why does D&D need a permanent TVIV thread?

i pronounce the letters of every acronym. it's gui not gooey

Because the posters who pay for this site wanted the thread to be like that. Compare the traffic of that thread to this one, or uspol.

I read them as words, usually, and that's why it was weird to me too at first.

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Frightening Knight posted:

I am reading this thread guys and taking your feedback, but I’m out with family right now.

Please consider my initiative to require every acronym be fully spelled out every time.

Thanks in advance

Edit: Television Intravenous Chat

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod



now i'm gonna start saying every letter of that

HootTheOwl posted:

Because the posters who pay for this site wanted the thread to be like that. Compare the traffic of that thread to this one, or uspol.

I read them as words, usually, and that's why it was weird to me too at first.

:lol:

hope the mods start banning a lot more trump thread posters so you all can really pay for this site

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

HootTheOwl posted:

Because the posters who pay for this site wanted the thread to be like that. Compare the traffic of that thread to this one, or uspol.

I read them as words, usually, and that's why it was weird to me too at first.

it's real sad when people are all "I PAY YOUR SALARY" to actual government employees and all but I never thought it'd see an SA poster try to big dog their :10bux:

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

Someone is underestimating how many petty avatars I've bought :colbert:

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

sexpig by night posted:

it's real sad when people are all "I PAY YOUR SALARY" to actual government employees and all but I never thought it'd see an SA poster try to big dog their :10bux:

It's been happening since the day after Lowtax started charging :10bux: for accounts. People feel incredibly entitled to everything their heart desires if they paid any amount of money for anything.

The Mad Cobber
May 19, 2018

HootTheOwl posted:

Someone is underestimating how many petty avatars I've bought :colbert:
:same:

Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord
I think not talking about the shooting in the uspol thread was a good thing, because the gun control debate tends to override whatever other discussions were being had and gets incredibly messy every single time.

Closing it may or may not have been a good decision, but it depends on where the future of this thread and the trump thread goes. I will probably never step foot in the trump thread because no matter how well it's moderated, there are simply too many posts about the same things every day that it makes it hard to read. Getting people to post less in it has not been something any moderator has attempted to address.

I'm in favor of renaming this thread as the socialist thread, because that's the umbrella most of us operate under here.

Prester Jane
Nov 4, 2008

by Hand Knit

I'm a huge fan of your work by-the-by.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Freakazoid_ posted:

I think not talking about the shooting in the uspol thread was a good thing, because the gun control debate tends to override whatever other discussions were being had and gets incredibly messy every single time.

Closing it may or may not have been a good decision, but it depends on where the future of this thread and the trump thread goes. I will probably never step foot in the trump thread because no matter how well it's moderated, there are simply too many posts about the same things every day that it makes it hard to read. Getting people to post less in it has not been something any moderator has attempted to address.

I'm in favor of renaming this thread as the socialist thread, because that's the umbrella most of us operate under here.

Fold all the drat threads into the succ zone.

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

I do like that this thread has a knife fight attitude but it is sadly predictable that only one side comes to fight.

Like we could generate days of content if someone would earnestly defend “vote dem no matter what, even if it is Steve Bannon” in this thread instead of in the Trump thread where they do it now.

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


Trabisnikof posted:

I do like that this thread has a knife fight attitude but it is sadly predictable that only one side comes to fight.

Like we could generate days of content if someone would earnestly defend “vote dem no matter what, even if it is Steve Bannon” in this thread instead of in the Trump thread where they do it now.

they're too scared, they have to hide where the mods protect them from anything that challenges their notions

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ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
You know it was extremely obvious there were going to be people celebrating Greenwald's imminent death in the Trump thread and yet it somehow hasn't diminished in how utterly revolting it is to actually see it.

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