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Yinlock posted:considering how hella fixed the whole election was AND he was taking charge like 2 days before the end of the election, i think he's way ahead of you on that one yeah i guess thats optimistically assuming he'll wait to just go full dictator, and not just do it the first day
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The funny thing about the "no pornography on TV" is that there is substantially less nudity on TV now than in the past. In the 80s there was a TV show that was on at like 10 pm called cocktail that was a game show that included things like "which girl has a mark on her nipples" and where the loser had to do a striptease. Also, Bolsonaro folks don't like the Statute of Children and Adolescents (passed in 1990) because it protects minors from prosecution, but it is also the law that made most underage nudity and pornography illegal. There are a number of Brazilian movies that included nudity and/or sex scenes with minors prior to that, and it wasn't uncommon to have 14 or 15 year olds on the cover of playboy
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joepinetree posted:Also, Bolsonaro folks don't like the Statute of Children and Adolescents (passed in 1990) because it protects minors from prosecution, but it is also the law that made most underage nudity and pornography illegal. There are a number of Brazilian movies that included nudity and/or sex scenes with minors prior to that, and it wasn't uncommon to have 14 or 15 year olds on the cover of playboy ah, what a surprise. no wonder they fear the children are becoming gay.
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Oct 29, 2018 04:37
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"No pornography" is clearly code for gay people doing absolutely whatever, Nothing wrong with manly men looking at naked women like God intended, just a bit of harmless fun.
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Oct 29, 2018 04:41
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it's just hiding Obvious Mob poo poo under the veil of Strong Christian Values
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:i cant see any result other than his brutal neoliberal program becoming insanely unpopular and he embraces full on dictatorship to hold into power.
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Victory Position posted:ah, what a surprise. no wonder they fear the children are becoming gay. in one italian city around about the renaissance, the leadership was deeply concerned with all the hot male-on-male action going on, so they made it legal for prostitutes to advertise their wares from the window unfortunately, it turns out they forgot to exclude male prostitutes
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get that OUT of my face posted:in my binge-reading of post-election articles, i learned that macron still hasn't ended the state of emergency in france. there's a chance bolsonaro goes that route and uses it as an opportunity to establish a martial law dictatorship. but i think it's more likely that he won't bother waiting too long, considering how the military and police have already jumped at the bit to storm universities that teach "leftist" thought I'm pretty sure he'll just do it without an excuse, every interview on the subject he's ever given has been "yeah straight-up coup, seize power immediately"
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"God above everything. There is no such thing as this secular state. The state is Christian and the minority will have to change, if they can." what is it with authoritarians and god?
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Dead Beef posted:"God above everything. There is no such thing as this secular state. The state is Christian and the minority will have to change, if they can." a dose of narcissism and because it's easy to justify atrocities if you claim you're doing it for the Lord
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basically this is going to be a self-imploding clusterfuck but a lot of people are going to die in said implosion
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Max Awfuls posted:"No pornography" is clearly code for gay people doing absolutely whatever, Nothing wrong with manly men looking at naked women like God intended, just a bit of harmless fun.
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Oct 29, 2018 04:48
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Yinlock posted:I'm pretty sure he'll just do it without an excuse, every interview on the subject he's ever given has been "yeah straight-up coup, seize power immediately" Dead Beef posted:"God above everything. There is no such thing as this secular state. The state is Christian and the minority will have to change, if they can."
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Dead Beef posted:what is it with authoritarians and god? god is the ultimate strong daddy for the zombies who worship strong daddy no matter what
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I see, thanks. OK so then there's this: "The state is Christian and the minority will have to change, if they can." Is there any interpretation of that last bit which isn't "we're going to genocide religious minorities"?
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What's the religious demographics outside of Christianity in Brazil?
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Dead Beef posted:I see, thanks.
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Oct 29, 2018 05:17
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Bolsonaro is mostly paying lip service to IURD and other evangelicals that helped him get elected, he's much more of a hard on for militaristic "kill all lefties and criminals" kind of guy than a " kill the jews!" true believer nazi type. He's a sly opportunist, he's not deranged or crazy, which holds both benefits and disadvantages in a situation like this, because he's going to do a lot of harm on the long run but not in a spectacularly genocidal way that could get him ousted sooner rather than later.
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Max Awfuls posted:Bolsonaro is mostly paying lip service to IURD and other evangelicals that helped him get elected, he's much more of a hard on for militaristic "kill all lefties and criminals" kind of guy than a " kill the jews!" true believer nazi type. He's a sly opportunist, he's not deranged or crazy, which holds both benefits and disadvantages in a situation like this, because he's going to do a lot of harm on the long run but not in a spectacularly genocidal way that could get him ousted sooner rather than later. the us really lucked out that our far right guy was also a huge retard
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how likely is it that there are more assassination attempts on bolsonaro? could the knife attack have been deadly?
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:i cant see any result other than his brutal neoliberal program becoming insanely unpopular and he embraces full on dictatorship to hold into power. This, world economy is headed towards another big fall. Commodities, building boom is off so nowhere to drive commodity production. Brazil could see several droughts that shut down part of the country due to damns not having water. Bolsanario will bring the full dictatorship. The only way out of this is through force of arms. I suggest whomever takes over afterwords does what is neceserry and purifies Brazil entirely.
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Max Awfuls posted:he's not deranged or crazy, he's both these things, he's just not stupid
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joepinetree posted:Also, Bolsonaro folks don't like the Statute of Children and Adolescents (passed in 1990) because it protects minors from prosecution, but it is also the law that made most underage nudity and pornography illegal. There are a number of Brazilian movies that included nudity and/or sex scenes with minors prior to that, and it wasn't uncommon to have 14 or 15 year olds on the cover of playboy Figures. Scratch a right-winger and you'll find "actually, ephebophilia is..."
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 have the brazilian version of shitlibs blamed the poor yet
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:
Looks like a democratic party map to me.
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class war is the only war
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 quote:He promised to suppress the nation’s lawlessness by meeting violence with violence, insulted minorities and women, waxed nostalgic for Brazil’s dictatorship and expressed doubts about the electoral process itself. His unforgiving politics places him among nationalists such as Hungary’s Viktor Orban, Rodrigo Duterte in the Philippines and Donald Trump in America, who called him shortly after his victory was declared. He might be a threat to democracy but think of the market potential! Homocow has issued a correction as of 08:12 on Oct 29, 2018 |
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Oct 29, 2018 08:09
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'commanding victory' somebody clock this mook
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https://twitter.com/rachel_sg/status/1056674633196421121?s=19
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Metal Cat posted:Check this out: Nah, PT will continue to be the largest party in Brazil. Unions and social movements won't simply change parties. PT still controls the largest block in congress (though will likely fall to 2nd after all the opportunists shift to PSL) and the highest number of governors in the country. Haddad went from being nobody to being a runner up who made it to the second round in a month on the basis of party loyalty alone. PT will also likely be the main opposition party to Bolsonaro. I am not saying that PT will win in 2022, but unless Bolsonaro's presidency is hugely successful on the economy and crime I am pretty certain that the runoff in 2022 will be Bolsonaro and whoever PT chooses.
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joepinetree posted:Nah, PT will continue to be the largest party in Brazil. Unions and social movements won't simply change parties. PT still controls the largest block in congress (though will likely fall to 2nd after all the opportunists shift to PSL) and the highest number of governors in the country. Haddad went from being nobody to being a runner up who made it to the second round in a month on the basis of party loyalty alone. PT will also likely be the main opposition party to Bolsonaro. I am not saying that PT will win in 2022, but unless Bolsonaro's presidency is hugely successful on the economy and crime I am pretty certain that the runoff in 2022 will be Bolsonaro and whoever PT chooses. How convinced are you that there will actually be an election in 2022? Or that there will be unjailed PT members by then?
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Absurd Alhazred posted:How convinced are you that there will actually be an election in 2022? Or that there will be unjailed PT members by then? I don't think there will be a coup over the next 4 years. Shutting down congress or cancelling elections is a bridge too far. In terms of authoritarianism the most likely outcome is a green light for police forces to just mow down the poor and social movements.
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joepinetree posted:I don't think there will be a coup over the next 4 years. Shutting down congress or cancelling elections is a bridge too far. In terms of authoritarianism the most likely outcome is a green light for police forces to just mow down the poor and social movements. Yeah I agree. For better or for worse he'll just be a Duterte type rear end in a top hat but on a far larger country.
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To elaborate on it a bit more: the sort of business elite that governments like Bolsonaro depend on need a little bit of plausible deniability in order to support a right win strong man. Most countries aren't Saudi Arabia, where the ruler has trillions to make everyone look the other way. There's a reason why even Sisi in Egypt still runs elections. They are sham elections, just like the elections in Honduras were sham elections, but they give companies plausible deniability to keep investing in the place. So CBC and the WSJ can keep talking about investment opportunities and centrist politicians don't have to be asked about their support/silence over it. So there will be elections, and even if a ton of PT members are in jail by then the party is popular enough to get the 20 or 25% necessary to make it to a run off if Bolsonaro isn't popular enough to win outright.
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1056885392522260480 "Military" lmao we are gonna invade Venezuela
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The war against Venezuela is all the hard right needs to mantain power for a few more cycles. jingoism does wonders for support. Of course they will invade Venezuela with Trumps support as soon as possible. It's going to be a humanitarian disaster. Kanthulhu has issued a correction as of 14:56 on Oct 29, 2018 |
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