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Rigel posted:Images of kids in cages provoked such a massive backlash that Trump had to near-instantaneously back down and put real effort into at least looking like they were trying to reunite families. A literal president-ordered massacre of refugees at the border would end his presidency. It will not happen. Backlash from who, the Conservative leaning leftists? I've got an office full of MAGA CHUDS that were giddy with glee at those pictures. It was literally open season to make dehumanizing human jokes for the lot of them. I can only assume similar ilk reveled in it as well.
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The Glumslinger posted:California passed some reforms on the eligibility to opt out of vaccination and this year 95% of all kindergarten students have had all the necessary vaccines Yeah Mexico is still higher but you're right that article was a few years old.
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DandyLion posted:Backlash from who, the Conservative leaning leftists? I've got an office full of MAGA CHUDS that were giddy with glee at those pictures. It was literally open season to make dehumanizing human jokes for the lot of them. I can only assume similar ilk reveled in it as well. Who cares about the CHUDs. There aren't nearly enough of them to save Trump in this hellish hypothetical. All thats going to happen is that we'll have a slightly larger presence on the border for a while, they'll probably catch a lot, but not all of the refugees, and send them flying back south.
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Rigel posted:Images of kids in cages provoked such a massive backlash that Trump had to near-instantaneously back down and put real effort into at least looking like they were trying to reunite families. A literal president-ordered massacre of refugees at the border would end his presidency. It will not happen. Or they would just take out of context something Obama did and then go about doing the bad thing quietly once the media heat dies down. You know, like they did with kids in cages.
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There's some real choice quotes coming out of Trump's interview with Woodward. That's gonna make for a fun evening and tomorrow. CNN Trump guy is already trying to clean it up.
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Rigel posted:Who cares about the CHUDs. There aren't nearly enough of them to save Trump in this hellish hypothetical. All thats going to happen is that we'll have a slightly larger presence on the border for a while, they'll probably catch a lot, but not all of the refugees, and send them flying back south. also, there are some pretty tight restrictions on what the military can actually do, even if the Trump administration had a clue, which they don't an acquaintance of mine spent several months on National Guard deployment because the big dumb baby wanted to look big and strong and their responsibilities consisted pretty much of fence repair and occasionally radioing in a sighted border crossing to the Border Patrol after the first six weeks or so where they sat around in hotel rooms playing video games and drawing deployment pay GHOST_BUTT posted:Or they would just take out of context something Obama did and then go about doing the bad thing quietly once the media heat dies down. You know, like they did with kids in cages. family separation has pretty much stopped they're still, you know, detaining asylum seeking families together, but the courts told them to knock off the "steal kids from their families" and "ideally deport the parents and separate them permanently" bits
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Ghetto SuperCzar posted:When was the last time we deployed armed troops in the US? LA Riots. But not generally covered by the news. Marines in fact.
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Rigel posted:Who cares about the CHUDs. There aren't nearly enough of them to save Trump in this hellish hypothetical. All thats going to happen is that we'll have a slightly larger presence on the border for a while, they'll probably catch a lot, but not all of the refugees, and send them flying back south. So there's a zero chance, according to you, that any migrants get injured/killed?
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Failed Imagineer posted:I love how when you graph for the whole of the 21st century, you see pretty much constant DOW growth from 2009 all the way through Obama's term, then it starts going to poo poo this year once tariffs are introduced. But clearly all stock market growth is good, and due to beautiful TrumpJobs (TM) I love dunking on Trump, but this is very, very wrong. Switch to logarithmic view and you'll see recent market swings have been quite small compared to those in the past. 
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https://twitter.com/passantino/status/1057013271859994624 i continue to wonder what blackmail material he has on murdoch
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STAC Goat posted:There's some real choice quotes coming out of Trump's interview with Woodward. That's gonna make for a fun evening and tomorrow. CNN Trump guy is already trying to clean it up. what trump interview with woodward are you talking about? maybe i missed something, i thought Ingraham was the only one he had scheduled and i don't see anything about it on twitter e: ah it's an old one he was talking about https://twitter.com/TheLeadCNN/status/1057012284579471360 eke out fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Oct 29, 2018 |
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Oct 29, 2018 22:00
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Oh no, an easily treatable disease? The horror!
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The Glumslinger posted:California passed some reforms on the eligibility to opt out of vaccination and this year 95% of all kindergarten students have had all the necessary vaccines Interesting, I remember people in D&D's vaccination thread predicting this would cause a huge backlash as parents fought against a government mandate. Turns out the 'marketplace of ideas' is bullshit and if you want to protect kids from preventable disease you don't try to outdebate every idiot granola mom and moron bible-thumper like their anti-science position was reached through rational means or can be changed through rational argument. You just make it mandatory and turns out most people who will entertain stupid anti-science nonsense if it costs them nothing will abandon it the moment their lives are ever-so-slightly inconvenienced.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Does he realize we have a cure for leprosy now? Almost most of the population is immune to it.  (unless you're an armadillo)
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evilweasel posted:https://twitter.com/passantino/status/1057013271859994624 The fact Shep has to take time to state it like this is incredibly sad, because it means that Fox knows that they're scaring a bunch of poor, dumb, sheltered rubes shitless.
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Mummy Xzibit posted:So there's a zero chance, according to you, that any migrants get injured/killed? i doubt this is going to be much more lethal than regular border arrests (maybe less so, insofar as a huge, overwhelming proportion of the people who die trying to cross the border are from exposure and such, and some of the folks who are more confident in their asylum status might try to cross at regular crossings... and get detained because the administration has illegally made it impossible for them to apply for asylum at the border without unauthorized entry) so, you know, maybe zero, maybe greater than zero, but a 'massacre' would surprise me Shimrra Jamaane posted:This caravan won’t even exist by the time it would even be projected to arrive. Like all the other ones. also this Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Oct 29, 2018 |
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This caravan won’t even exist by the time it would even be projected to arrive. Like all the other ones. Ffs people.
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evilweasel posted:https://twitter.com/passantino/status/1057013271859994624 It's bizarre. The bulk of the news media has moved so far into right-wing apologetics in the last 3 years that Shep Smith of Fox News is more reasonable and measured and further left than a bulk of other network personalities from networks like CNN and NBC. We live in truly strange times.
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In a normal country, in a normal time, that would be the former E.D. of the Mass. Police Association speaking.
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What, ebola isn't sexy anymore? Leprosy making a comeback!
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remains to be seen if there will actually be mass death at the border but trump sure as hell is making sure all the prerequisites for it are there
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i understand the cheering at the markets going down but as someone who works most commonly with people that have quite low net worths often tied to some bizarre stock mixture it tends to effect them a shitload more because they dont have the ability to withstand downturns nor the education to ride it out so they quite literally sell low and buy high over and over and over and its pretty depressing
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CuddleCryptid posted:He's been claiming massive fraud since the election because he lost the popular vote and cannot accept that he only got in because of gerrymandering, aka cheating. Like all things that come out of the GOP it's projection. There being nothing he can legally do is comforting. The other half is that unlike 2016 where he basically said the same thing, the CHUDs won't be getting everything they wanted this time around and likely won't stay quiet or civil
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GreyjoyBastard posted:i doubt this is going to be much more lethal than regular border arrests (maybe less so, insofar as a huge, overwhelming proportion of the people who die trying to cross the border are from exposure and such, and some of the folks who are more confident in their asylum status might try to cross at regular crossings... and get detained because the administration has illegally made it impossible for them to apply for asylum at the border without unauthorized entry) i think, generally speaking, the military is less likely to Do Murders than your average ICE agent at this point
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If I were a liberal billionaire I would band together with a few other fellow billionaires and organize a hostile takeover of Fox News. I have no idea why someone like Soros has not done that yet. Because the abolishment of Fox News would not only have tremendous positive impact on the USA, one could argue it's also essential for the continued existence of the country as a liberal democracy.
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evilweasel posted:https://twitter.com/passantino/status/1057013271859994624 The full quote for those who can't/didn't watch it: quote:Tomorrow, the migrants according to FOX news reporting are more than 2 months away, if any of them actually come here. But tomorrow is 1 week before the midterm election, which is what all of this is about. There is no invasion. No one is coming to get you. There is nothing at all to worry about. When they did this to us, got us all riled up in April remember, the result was 14 arrests. We're Amerca, we can handle it. But like I said, a week to the election. RiggenBlaque posted:Thanks, it wasn't breaking thing on my screen but I guess the image was on the larger size Lightning Knight said earlier today that he's going to start probating for non-timg'd images in this thread regardless of size.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:family separation has pretty much stopped I was under the impression that there was some question as to whether or not they were actually complying, but I guess not? The fast paced news cycle has destroyed my ability to follow up on whatever the current national crisis is on a given day.
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eke out posted:what trump interview with woodward are you talking about? maybe i missed something, i thought Ingraham was the only one he had scheduled and i don't see anything about it on twitter Ah, my bad. I saw them discussing it on CNN and assumed it was new. Sorry about that.
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Mummy Xzibit posted:So there's a zero chance, according to you, that any migrants get injured/killed? There is zero chance that Trump will literally order a massacre and that the military would then salute and carry out those orders. When you mix a lot of people with guns in a stressful environment, poo poo can happen.
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tbp posted:i understand the cheering at the markets going down but as someone who works most commonly with people that have quite low net worths often tied to some bizarre stock mixture it tends to effect them a shitload more because they dont have the ability to withstand downturns nor the education to ride it out so they quite literally sell low and buy high over and over and over and its pretty depressing The stock market is a rigged casino where the rich trick you into playing and steal all your money. Sorry about your friends, but their paper wealth never existed any more than the paper wealth of Madoff's investors
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Taffer posted:It's bizarre. The bulk of the news media has moved so far into right-wing apologetics in the last 3 years that Shep Smith of Fox News is more reasonable and measured and further left than a bulk of other network personalities from networks like CNN and NBC. Truth. CNN and MSNBC should stop paying for pundits altogether. News people can tell news, professionals (science experts, etc) can provide professional explanations and analysis, and the viewers can form their own opinions.
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tbp posted:i understand the cheering at the markets going down but as someone who works most commonly with people that have quite low net worths often tied to some bizarre stock mixture it tends to effect them a shitload more because they dont have the ability to withstand downturns nor the education to ride it out so they quite literally sell low and buy high over and over and over and its pretty depressing Dehumanize yourself and face to bloodshed, friend
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tbp posted:i understand the cheering at the markets going down but as someone who works most commonly with people that have quite low net worths often tied to some bizarre stock mixture it tends to effect them a shitload more because they dont have the ability to withstand downturns nor the education to ride it out so they quite literally sell low and buy high over and over and over and its pretty depressing In these systems poor people suffer even when they're working properly - if more instability is finally the boot in the rear end of government to put in restrictions (lol not likely) then the direct negative effects of the downturn will hopefully be offset by the system being restricted into being less damaging all the time. But that's basically accelerationist so take that as you will. I don't really cheer for it but I also can't help getting a small sense of satisfaction that some rich gently caress is getting their life ruined.
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ReidRansom posted:The fact Shep has to take time to state it like this is incredibly sad, because it means that Fox knows that they're scaring a bunch of poor, dumb, sheltered rubes shitless. That's Fox News' intention. Shep is just the weirdo who has a conscious and tries to talk sense into the viewers.
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canepazzo posted:In a normal country, in a normal time, that would be the former E.D. of the Mass. Police Association speaking. The Mass Police Association appears to be some sort of lobbying group rather than part of the government. Their contact email is an aol.com address 
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Stickman posted:Oh no, an easily treatable disease? The horror! They're using that in particular for the biblical link. Gotta keep that persecution complex going.
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VitalSigns posted:The stock market is a rigged casino where the rich trick you into playing and steal all your money. they're not my friends, they are my clients. and yes i realize how insane it is. but many poor people also lack basic financial education so they often make decisions that actively work against them over and over
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Phi230 posted:I dont think you know what gerrymandering is if you think the electoral college is gerrymandering Eh, I mean... the limitation of the EC functionally come down to lines on a map and systemic issues accounting for population, since so many states have the 3 electoral votes that are massively disproportionate in representation than the votes of, say, California. It's not really gerrymandering, but I mean... eh, I don't know why I'm saying this.
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