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Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

Ghostlight posted:

sounds like a false flag operation, throw the book at the goons

Lock 'em up, lock 'em up

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The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

colonelwest posted:

Regardless of the provenance of this, everything in there is a truism at this point. For CIG to even come close to the game Chris has cumulatively promised working in an MMO environment, it would take them at least twice the time and money they've sunk into this so far. 7 years in, they don't even have a flight model or basic ship functionality.

For those of you with more software/game development knowledge... Do you think they will come to a point when they have to scrap most of their work and just start over again in a new engine? Or will they just hobble on in their Frankenstein'd Cryengine forever?

I'm not in game dev, but in software dev if something isn't working out you have a meeting to determine what, and generally refactor what you can and rebuild what you need to. Especially on a new product.

If this were some companies 20 year old AS400 implementation that's been running their company since day zero and it's more hack than program, you're kind of screwed and you need to force your new hacks in to work.

Something like a video game doesn't seem like it would be like this. However, most video games also don't build high end graphics first and then force themselves to back into a video game. They do it with boxes and 50 poly ships and make sure the game works, and that way you don't get into something stupid like what Star Citizen did.

But again I'm not a game dev so don't take my word for it.

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





tfw you're actually not incredibly mad (and are actually laughing) about a bot that follows you around and posts a picture of a corncob every time you post



Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

Beet Goblin posted:

tfw you're actually not incredibly mad (and are actually laughing) about a bot that follows you around and posts a picture of a corncob every time you post





Did he literally put words into your mouth, AND stole one of the most incompetent Terry Pratchett characters to use as his identity?

Keep banging those frog pills down, Bursar.

Nyast
Nov 14, 2017

BLAZING AT THE
SPEED OF LIGHT

Xaerael posted:

Guys. Guys....
I bought a thing...



How many thousands $$ did you pay for that catpeg ?

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





Hav posted:

Did he literally put words into your mouth, AND stole one of the most incompetent Terry Pratchett characters to use as his identity?

Keep banging those frog pills down, Bursar.

He didn't put words in my mouth, I just omitted my boring response where I said the bot made me laugh when I saw his tedious badfaith bullshit.

I'm pretty sure he's reached a point where he's accusing me of altering screenshots of a comment chain of a reddit thread we're both in though, which means I hit peak stupid before I bailed out of that thread.

Dementropy
Aug 23, 2010



https://twitter.com/Bo0x__/status/1057001279057248256

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

That Snickers Guy posted:

Is this the place where we talk about how good Star Citizen is?

I loved you in the A-Team

Combat Theory
Jul 16, 2017

The most amazing part for me is that despite the 600 or so views the video has already I haven't received a single meltdown PM yet. (but I also didn't touch the poop on reddit)

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

That Snickers Guy posted:

Is this the place where we talk about how good Star Citizen is?

I'm sorry, this is a room for rubbing. Some hating, but mostly rubbing, because the hating takes a lot more energy.

Edit: Bad News Max Bad Men. I knows it's bad twice, but we're bad. Like max bad, and that could be up to twice.

Hav fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Oct 29, 2018

Atheist Sunglasses
Jul 26, 2003

All the candy you want. Crotton crandy, crandy apple. I like to go on the best ride first. Name of roller croaster.

Beet Goblin posted:



hahahahahahaha holy gently caress, I'm dying

lol that's my subreddit! i'm a huge fan, i swear.

That Snickers Guy
Oct 29, 2018

Psst, hey kid.
Wanna buy some Star Wars Spoilers?

Have a Snickers you act like a DIVA when you're hungry.

I paid 5 buxx for this so I might as well make the most of it right?

How about a joke?

How do you milk a whale?
You release a new jpeg.

Here have a cat.
/\_/\
( 0.0 )
> ^ <

Combat Theory posted:

The most amazing part for me is that despite the 600 or so views the video has already I haven't received a single meltdown PM yet. (but I also didn't touch the poop on reddit)


Well, what you waiting for? go post!

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

That Snickers Guy posted:

Oh so it's not all Beet wagons alts then.

No, it is.

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





quote:

Oh god another game that the psychos are going to ruin for the rest of us, just go back to EVE guys you where kings there I'm sure you can do it again... we really don't need you here.

I gotta be honest here: after so many years of shitposting, I really underestimated the mileage we'd get out of a video of goons playing the game.

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen


Beet Goblin posted:

I gotta be honest here: after so many years of shitposting, I really underestimated the mileage we'd get out of a video of goons playing the game.

I'd say "Let's do a video griefing people" but honestly it's not loving worth it. I am so burned out on SC I don't want to touch it again for another year.

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

Can you still walk into people at the ship spawning computers and push them away so they can't spawn a ship?

iron buns
Jan 12, 2016

Store Citizer: Max Bad, Can't Get Any Worse

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen


big nipples big life posted:

Can you still walk into people at the ship spawning computers and push them away so they can't spawn a ship?

I think if you're far enough away you just drop out of the screen now. But ship spawning's hosed for the in-game purchases, and right now your cursor disappears on any interactive screen anyway, so they're a nightmare to use in general.

Every time they fix one bug they introduce 5 more

Combat Theory
Jul 16, 2017

That Snickers Guy posted:

Well, what you waiting for? go post!

Uhhhhh he's here :toot: :crobear: :toot:

Beet Goblin posted:

I gotta be honest here: after so many years of shitposting, I really underestimated the mileage we'd get out of a video of goons playing the game.

so did i, but it definetely was worth the 2 hours of snipping the videos together and rendering it.

Combat Theory fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Oct 29, 2018

That Snickers Guy
Oct 29, 2018

Psst, hey kid.
Wanna buy some Star Wars Spoilers?

Have a Snickers you act like a DIVA when you're hungry.

I paid 5 buxx for this so I might as well make the most of it right?

How about a joke?

How do you milk a whale?
You release a new jpeg.

Here have a cat.
/\_/\
( 0.0 )
> ^ <

Sarsapariller posted:

I think if you're far enough away you just drop out of the screen now. But ship spawning's hosed for the in-game purchases, and right now your cursor disappears on any interactive screen anyway, so they're a nightmare to use in general.

Every time they fix one bug they introduce 5 more

That's not a bug, it's a feature.

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

That Snickers Guy posted:

That's not a bug, it's a feature.

The bug pipeline is matured and producing more than ever.

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen


I kind of want to make a Sarsapariller Challenge to reddit but I'm not sure how to word it. Something like:

"Post an unedited video of you completing a 3.3 PTU mission from start to finish (starting from your wankpod and ending at mission success) with no bugs, glitches, crashes, or instant deaths.

If you succeed at this, I will buy you a 45 dollar starter package."

HARD MODE

"Post an unedited video of you earning enough credits in an hour without the Prospector that, if extrapolated into a 12 hour per week grind, could see you earning enough to buy a Prospector from the in-game store within 3 months of game play (since that is roughly how often your account will be reset due to patches)."

Xaerael
Aug 25, 2010

Marching Powder is objectively the worst poster known. He also needs to learn how a keyboard works.

Nyast posted:

How many thousands $$ did you pay for that catpeg ?

It cost me 1000 (english pence)

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





Sarsapariller posted:

I kind of want to make a Sarsapariller Challenge to reddit but I'm not sure how to word it. Something like:

"Post an unedited video of you completing a 3.3 PTU mission from start to finish (starting from your wankpod and ending at mission success) with no bugs, glitches, crashes, or instant deaths.

If you succeed at this, I will buy you a 45 dollar starter package."

HARD MODE

"Post an unedited video of you earning enough credits in an hour without the Prospector that, if extrapolated into a 12 hour per week grind, could see you earning enough to buy a Prospector from the in-game store within 3 months of game play (since that is roughly how often your account will be reset due to patches)."

I mean... it'd be funny but then there's the outside chance you'd end up giving CIG cash and well don't do that

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen


Beet Goblin posted:

I mean... it'd be funny but then there's the outside chance you'd end up giving CIG cash and well don't do that

I agree, but I am pretty confident that the first one is like, 99% impossible. I have not managed it in probably 20+ hours of PTU play time. I should probably specify which mission since there's an outside chance that someone could get lucky at like, the Kareah FPS "Kill 7 people" thing. I almost managed to do that one once.

The second one is absolutely 100% impossible

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Beet Goblin posted:

I gotta be honest here: after so many years of shitposting, I really underestimated the mileage we'd get out of a video of goons playing the game.

Now imagine the sheer power of a video of the goons griefing a Javelin with lovely starter ships. This game has to come out, it has!

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

trucutru posted:

Now imagine the sheer power of a video of the goons griefing a Javelin with lovely starter ships. This game has to come out, it has!

We're lovable scamps. All that horrific poo poo is just the haters.

his nibs
Feb 27, 2016

:kayak:Welcome to the:kayak:
Dream Factory
:kayak:
Grimey Drawer

That Snickers Guy posted:

Is this the place where we talk about how good Star Citizen is?

Hello, where do you stand on Nazis and Nazi sympathising in general?

That Snickers Guy
Oct 29, 2018

Psst, hey kid.
Wanna buy some Star Wars Spoilers?

Have a Snickers you act like a DIVA when you're hungry.

I paid 5 buxx for this so I might as well make the most of it right?

How about a joke?

How do you milk a whale?
You release a new jpeg.

Here have a cat.
/\_/\
( 0.0 )
> ^ <

his nibs posted:

Hello, where do you stand on Nazis and Nazi sympathising in general?

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Xaerael posted:

Guys. Guys....
I bought a thing...



Aliens (1986) action figure

Golli
Jan 5, 2013



This is my dog, Max.

He is not bad. You guys are giving him a complex.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



oh but you see the skull emblem is from the prussian empire in the 19th century ⚡⚡

Hobold
Jan 10, 2012


I love my Cutlass
I love big stompy mechs
I love my HOTAS
I love to salvage wrecks
I love Star Citizen, and all it's craziness
GOONDEYADA, GOONDEYADA, GOONDEYADA
College Slice
Are they really trying to say "You can't post a negative review, without playing the game." /and/ "If you played the game, you liked it, and can't post a negative review about it." at the same time?

That Snickers Guy
Oct 29, 2018

Psst, hey kid.
Wanna buy some Star Wars Spoilers?

Have a Snickers you act like a DIVA when you're hungry.

I paid 5 buxx for this so I might as well make the most of it right?

How about a joke?

How do you milk a whale?
You release a new jpeg.

Here have a cat.
/\_/\
( 0.0 )
> ^ <

Hobold posted:

Are they really trying to say "You can't post a negative review, without playing the game." /and/ "If you played the game, you liked it, and can't post a negative review about it." at the same time?

Uh, that's Citizens for you.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Okay serious question, Alpha 3.2 is the current playable version available. What can you actually do in this version of the game? How many ships are available that you can earn with in-game credits, and what missions / activities are there to do?

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


Hobold posted:

Are they really trying to say "You can't post a negative review, without playing the game." /and/ "If you played the game, you liked it, and can't post a negative review about it." at the same time?

So citizens are like my son when he was 3 years old - he came running down the hall into the living room, tripped, and fell. I'm sitting across the room from him. He starts crying, my wife comes out and asks what happened, he says "Daddy pushed me!"

Is that citizen-like?

Combat Theory
Jul 16, 2017

I said come in! posted:

Okay serious question, Alpha 3.2 is the current playable version available. What can you actually do in this version of the game? How many ships are available that you can earn with in-game credits, and what missions / activities are there to do?

since 3.3 is on the PTU no one is giving 2 shits about the 3.2 live version at the moment.

we can do a goon review maybe when 3.3 goes live to answer those questions without having to browse reddit and wade through a million pages of *dreams*

TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer

I said come in! posted:

Okay serious question, Alpha 3.2 is the current playable version available. What can you actually do in this version of the game? How many ships are available that you can earn with in-game credits, and what missions / activities are there to do?
3.3 introduces ships to buy with credits (only a handful)

3.2 has the same boring rear end set of 4 or so missions that launched with 2.6 basically, and 2 more that are derivatives of that with some extra fluff from either ortwin or the man with 4 jackets

go here and deactivate activate/relay
go here and search a derelict for clues
go here and shoot guys in ships (almost loving impossible in starter ships)
deliver this cargo (only works in one starter ship and that requires a work around)

and thats it and no one does them because you get absolutely nothing and will probably get crashed the gently caress out trying them and they are loving boring as poo poo

3.3 adds "jumping puzzle" mission and "first person kill shoot bang bang" mission

TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer
like this

Delivery
Deploy
Recovery
AI Bounty Hunt
AI Assassination
Collection
Waste disposal
Patrol
Derelict investigation
Escort
Mission Givers

but the delivery and recovery and collection and waste disposal all share the same "pick up a box, move box" mechanic with different fluff

the AI bounty hunt, assassination, patrol and escort are all the same with different flavor text (and not really much that happens differently). escort gives you the chance to kill the friendly captain and take his ship over though, which is what we should do in 3.3 to get better ships

the two mission givers give out quests that are just like these, basically with a short monologue and then some flavor text but nothing loving changes and the payouts are small and there's no sense of scale or progression at all, since "reputation" (which is just a crime stat type thing, not like something you earn with various factions in a traditional MMO sense) resets when you connect to a different server

I mean start citizen is loving bad, okay

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I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Disappointed but not surprised. You truly would expect this game to be loaded with content at this point with how long it has been in development.

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