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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/30/japanese-bullet-train-company-calls-halt-to-scary-safety-drillquote:
I mean, sounds like it would work and they were wearing goggle so what's the problem?
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/30/japanese-bullet-train-company-calls-halt-to-scary-safety-drill That owns. I want to sign up for Bones-sama's wild ride
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 but that works so well in cartoons?
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Oct 30, 2018 12:17
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https://twitter.com/rianru/status/1057143813100236800 BBC News - Russian aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov damaged by crane https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46030113
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Oct 30, 2018 13:51
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The dock is not so dry any more.
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SelenicMartian posted:The dock is not so dry any more. the whole ship is an OSHA tragedy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaR0fC1ncPo taskandpurpose.com posted:Russia’s only aircraft carrier, the Admiral Kuznetsov, is one of the five worst carriers in the world, according to The National Interest. "Before it was sent back to the yards for repairs, the Kuznetsov was always accompanied by a special tugboat in case it broke down" schmug fucked around with this message at 14:43 on Oct 30, 2018 |
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Oct 30, 2018 14:37
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Here is a photo of what the inside of the dock looks like, with a typhoon ssbn in it for scale.
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quote:Russia’s only aircraft carrier, the Admiral Kuznetsov, is one of the five worst carriers in the world, according to The National Interest. Are there even 5 non-US carriers?
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Yes, but most can only handle helicopters.
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RandomPauI posted:Yes, but most can only handle helicopters. and most were built for WW2. This one was built in the 80's lol
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Oct 30, 2018 15:16
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Edit: we don't even classify all of our carriers as carriers! We have 20 or so amphibious assault vessels that also launch helicopters, ospreys, and f-35s.
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RandomPauI posted:Here is a photo of what the inside of the dock looks like, with a typhoon ssbn in it for scale. here's a better article: http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/24547/huge-floating-dry-dock-holding-russias-only-aircraft-carrier-has-accidentally-sunk "Update: 4:00am PST— The official story, at least as it sits now, is that the pump system that controls the dry dock's buoyancy suddenly lost power causing its ballast tanks to flood with water far past the intended point. As the dry dock quickly submerged, cranes came crashing down onto the Kuznetsov's deck (see below). Supposedly all this happened during a refloating operation for the carrier." "It's worth noting that Russia has a track record of not admitting the scope of shipyard accidents." no way! schmug fucked around with this message at 15:24 on Oct 30, 2018 |
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Oct 30, 2018 15:20
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Yeah, the dock takes in water to sink. Then ships sail into the dock. The dock refloats itself by pumping out all the water.
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Oct 30, 2018 15:22
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schmug posted:the whole ship is an OSHA tragedy. Iran has a submarine that is the exact same way, and they have to have two tender boats follow it around... so anytime you want to know where their sub is look for them. They've had to be rescued and pulled back to port a couple times. A few years ago they threatened to 'park it off the coast of america'... good luck making it there.
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Blackchamber posted:Iran has a submarine that is the exact same way, and they have to have two tender boats follow it around... so anytime you want to know where their sub is look for them. They've had to be rescued and pulled back to port a couple times. A few years ago they threatened to 'park it off the coast of america'... good luck making it there. "Here, you throw this away"
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Oct 30, 2018 15:33
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Does the UK still have those ski-jump carriers for launching Harriers?
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It has two carriers, but one is permanently mothballed and they both were built without catapults so they can only launch helicopters and f-35b's. They were supposed to have catapults but the Royal Navy didn't think to write the contract to make sure that the carriers would have to be built with them. Edit: the one carrier is getting mothballed because it was cheaper to build it and let it rot than to cancel the contract or to build and fully staff it.
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GotLag posted:Are there even 5 non-US carriers? If by the carrier you mean "can do something other than Harriers and Helicopters," then nope! There are only four that can launch and recover non-STVOL planes. One each from France, China, Russia, and India. And of those, only France's Charles de Gaulle has catapults allowing it to launch heavier aircraft and do the whole "force projection" thing. The others are limited to lighter planes and payloads which restrict them to mostly doing air-superiority. Edit: not that there even need to be more than five, mind you. Bluewater navies are crazy expensive, and not only are carriers the biggest ticket item, but they also don't offer a lot unless you're a major strategic power. Like, carriers are a huge waste of money unless you want to put on a show of being a Big Boy Navy and/or have a huge hardon for bombing brown people in faraway places. It's much easier to just buy a few submarines. Skippy McPants fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Oct 30, 2018 |
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schmug posted:and most were built for WW2. This one was built in the 80's lol And, doesn't it actually still burn coal for the turbines? 
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Not coal, the bunkiest bunker fuel they could fine. It's been refined but not by very much.
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Called Mazut apparently. Wiki article says it's basically lovely diesel.
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BlankIsBeautiful posted:And, doesn't it actually still burn coal for the turbines?
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Yawgmoth posted:That is likely the "very problematic propulsion system" mentioned. lovely construction all around, it seems, quote:Furthermore, Admiral Valentin Selivanov said, “From the very beginning, poor quality pipes were installed in her boilers.” The same admiral then went onto describe the Kuznetsov's 1990s sea trials. Due to the problems with the pipes, not all boilers could run at full capacity all the time, and they would often break down. Sometimes the ship was reduced to operating on one boiler, giving it a speed of around 4 knots. These same reliability problems lead to the Russian Navy sending tugs to accompany the Kuznetsov during its 2016 trip to the Syrian coast.
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Skippy McPants posted:Called Mazut apparently. Wiki article says it's basically lovely diesel. That's putting it lightly. It's a step above asphalt, and needs to be heated up in order to flow as a fuel.
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Skippy McPants posted:Called Mazut apparently. Wiki article says it's basically lovely diesel. 
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schmug posted:https://twitter.com/rianru/status/1057143813100236800 Well good, finally it wasn't the carrier's lovely design at fault.
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https://twitter.com/makhnytskyy/status/798288175487746048
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I grew up near the Welland Canal and like history stuff. I've got at least three direct ancestors, possibly more, that worked on the construction of the fourth (current) canal. Two great grandfathers, one of whom was killed in a construction accident, and one grandfather. Possibly more worked on it, that I don't know about. Also some indirect ancestors worked on it as well. During construction of the current canal, there were many fatalities. 137 total. I think that ended up working out to an average of 1 death every two weeks of construction. One accident, the collapse of one of the lock gates claimed the lives of 10 men. Here are the stories of a few of the men who died during construction: https://www.niagarafallsreview.ca/news-story/8196392-fallen-workers-last-victim-of-gate-collapse/ https://www.niagarafallsreview.ca/news-story/8195300-fallen-workers-worker-died-at-lock-6-gate-collapse/ https://www.stcatharinesstandard.ca/news-story/8318740-fall-at-lock-2-results-in-fatal-injury/ http://www.pressreader.com/canada/the-welland-tribune/20171202/281771334516183
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It looks quite safe when it's not running at double speed.
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Blackchamber posted:Iran has a submarine that is the exact same way, and they have to have two tender boats follow it around... so anytime you want to know where their sub is look for them. They've had to be rescued and pulled back to port a couple times. A few years ago they threatened to 'park it off the coast of america'... good luck making it there. They could just just send the two tenders...
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Zopotantor posted:They could just just send the two tenders... Retire the submarine and just self pairs of tenders in random directions
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schmug posted:BBC News - Russian aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov damaged by crane They came back for a revenge 
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Nenonen posted:They came back for a revenge
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Zopotantor posted:They could just just send the two tenders... cakesmith handyman posted:Retire the submarine and just self pairs of tenders in random directions And then how would the world know how great Iran's navy is? They are trying to build 'stealth subs' now, and they have over 30 other submarines but like... who knows how many of those work? EDIT: We encountered it on deployment and I had to keep asking our aircraft to please leave it alone as it was inside territorial waters of a mutually neutral friendly-ish country. We routinely photograph other nations naval ships etc. but they were just doing donuts around the three ships and overflying it. Blackchamber fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Oct 30, 2018 |
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SLOSifl posted:I love the idea of a bird landing on the carrier and it just sinking instantly. Crane lands on the side of the carrier, settles down to take a nap. Ship begins to slowly list in that direction until a crew member notices and frantically runs to the opposite side to counterbalance, but goes too far and the ship starts listing the other way. Eventually, most of the crew is running back and forth trying to keep the ship from rolling over as the captain frantically shouts directions over the ship's intercom.
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Azathoth posted:Crane lands on the side of the carrier, settles down to take a nap. Ship begins to slowly list in that direction until a crew member notices and frantically runs to the opposite side to counterbalance, but goes too far and the ship starts listing the other way. Eventually, most of the crew is running back and forth trying to keep the ship from rolling over as the captain frantically shouts directions over the ship's intercom.
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Skippy McPants posted:Called Mazut apparently. Wiki article says it's basically lovely diesel. Not really. quote:For shipment purposes, this product is considered a ”dirty oil” product, and because viscosity drastically affect whether it is able to be pumped, shipping has unique requirements. Mazut is much like Number 6 Oil (Bunker C), and is part of the products left over after gasoline and lighter components are evaporated from the crude oil. It's heavy fuel oil, it's like diesel in that both of them are petroleum products and that's about it. The stuff's more like pitch than like diesel, it doesn't even pump right unless you heat it to 35-40C.  Here's how it pours on a good day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnwSua-IGTs
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