p-lang thread: (now (have you (problems two)))

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the talent deficit: Dec 20, 2003; self-deprecation is a very british trait, and problems can arise when the british attempt to do so with a foreign culture

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

if management lets you choose to write applications targeting windows, management is deeply unsound

so what? close tickets, get paid, go home. when the company gets intolerable there'll be somewhere else

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Lutha Mahtin: Oct 10, 2010; Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!

tef posted:

reading the thread, lots of things have been written in lisp

- people's emacs macros, but not emacs, i mean, emacs is a lisp emulator + an editor also called emacs and only the latter is mostly lisp

- scripting language for an app written by a lisp liker who was forced to use c or c++ (gcc rtl honorary mention)

- scripting language for a game

- a web shopping cart that got rewritten in perl to make it usable

- a web discussion forum written in 'the hundred year language' which used mzscheme/plt/racket underneath and removed unicode support

- another web site that got rewritten in python as soon as they got funded by the lisp liker

also none of these are compatible in any meaninfgul way and any lisp from one would have to be rewritten to be used in the other

y'know given the turing completeness of string templating and yaml, you might argue that more programs are written in it than in lisp

the saltiest take

# ? Oct 30, 2018 04:05

redleader: Aug 18, 2005; Engage according to operational parameters

Kevin Mitnick P.E. posted:

yeah i like the first one better

# ? Oct 30, 2018 04:23

prisoner of waffles: May 8, 2007; Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

shame on you for omitting ita software / orbitz, an application every living american interacts with

Mostly accurate but y'know some Americans probably can't afford airplane tickets ri *looks at username* uh carry on

# ? Oct 30, 2018 04:51

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

I book my flights through the airlines directly op

# ? Oct 30, 2018 05:05

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

you don�t have your Amex concierge book your travel?

# ? Oct 30, 2018 05:56

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Ron Garret put up a list of the Lisp stuff at JPL including the project that led to OpenMCL and Clozure Common Lisp

# ? Oct 30, 2018 05:59

pokeyman: Nov 26, 2006; That elephant ate my entire platoon.

I head down to the mall and berate the person who works there as a travel agent into giving me a great deal

# ? Oct 30, 2018 06:00

Nomnom Cookie: Aug 30, 2009

I wonder if ita mgmt likes being the only commercial lisp user or if their code is just really terrible and impossible to replace

# ? Oct 30, 2018 06:55

Fiedler: Jun 29, 2002; I, for one, welcome our new mouse overlords.

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

i'm jealous of actually-working generics

i am not jealous of working for morons who can't see past the hole in their backside

yeah but you work in finance though?

# ? Oct 30, 2018 06:57

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

Fiedler posted:

yeah but you work in finance though?

a blessed windows-free zone

# ? Oct 30, 2018 07:24

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

Kevin Mitnick P.E. posted:

I wonder if ita mgmt likes being the only commercial lisp user or if their code is just really terrible and impossible to replace

there have got to be some people still buying lispworks and Franz lisp because the companies still exist and employ people after all these years

between 1990 and now we have gone from three lisp software vendors to two

# ? Oct 30, 2018 07:27

JawnV6: Jul 4, 2004; So hot ...

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

between 1990 and now we have gone from three lisp software vendors to two

or in their jargon, cdr

# ? Oct 30, 2018 07:48

fart simpson: Jul 2, 2005; DEATH TO AMERICA

Xarn posted:

Says the person weirdly obsessed with shoes doing short temp contracts in finances.

come on, he�s worked long term at 700 companies in his career

# ? Oct 30, 2018 08:05

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Clozure gives away CCL and makes money on consulting/support so it�s kind of a vendor as well

also you can still purchase an OpenGenera 2 license from Symbolics-DKS to run under Tru64, and you can get a support contract, so they technically count even if almost nobody is actually buying a new license

(the reason almost nobody is buying a new license isn�t �gotta run it on Tru64� but �you want HOW MUCH?!� for very unfortunate reasons)

eschaton fucked around with this message at 08:33 on Oct 30, 2018

# ? Oct 30, 2018 08:30

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

one nice thing is that the source to both OpenGenera and the emulator it runs on �became available� and people have made the emulator run on x86-64 where it screams (even on my quad-core Atom GPD Pocket)

also it gives you some very interesting UI designs, like a scroll bar that requires a three button mouse to use properly

# ? Oct 30, 2018 08:41

redleader: Aug 18, 2005; Engage according to operational parameters

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

a blessed windows-free zone

well i guess someone's paying for ibm mainframe support contracts

# ? Oct 30, 2018 09:32

fritz: Jul 26, 2003

JawnV6 posted:

or in their jargon, cdr

# ? Oct 30, 2018 13:26

Captain Foo: May 11, 2004; we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

JawnV6 posted:

or in their jargon, cdr

lol

# ? Oct 30, 2018 15:53

raminasi: Jan 25, 2005; a last drink with no ice

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

a blessed windows-free zone

this isn�t true

i mean good for you for avoiding tech you hate or w/e but there are windows finance shops

# ? Oct 30, 2018 16:53

Suspicious Dish: Sep 24, 2011; 2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro; Fun Shoe

tef you forgot "the configuration syntax for the sound on linux that never works"

# ? Oct 30, 2018 17:10

Zlodo: Nov 25, 2006

oh I remembered another great lisp success story: the amiga os installer utility (which somehow has a dedicated wikipedia page)

# ? Oct 30, 2018 17:18

Zlodo: Nov 25, 2006

lol

https://github.com/sodero/InstallerLG/blob/master/src/parser.y

what's the point of making a lisp if your going to use a yacc grammar to describe every possible function signature

# ? Oct 30, 2018 17:35

Volte: Oct 4, 2004; woosh woosh

people like to conflate lisp with s-expressions

# ? Oct 30, 2018 17:44

carry on then: Jul 10, 2010; by VideoGames
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redleader posted:

well i guess someone's paying for ibm mainframe support contracts

ibm's two quarters of revenue growth in the sea of descent were due to people buying new mainframes lol

# ? Oct 30, 2018 19:12

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Zlodo posted:

lol

https://github.com/sodero/InstallerLG/blob/master/src/parser.y

what's the point of making a lisp if your going to use a yacc grammar to describe every possible function signature

wtf seriously why would you do that

# ? Oct 30, 2018 19:20

Maximo Roboto: Feb 4, 2012

Is Flutter any good for making mobile apps? Only saw YOSPOS making fun of Dart 2

# ? Oct 31, 2018 03:22

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

JawnV6 posted:

or in their jargon, cdr

i am in such awe of this burn i cannot merely empty quote and move on

my face physically twisted into a long forgotten grimace that might pass for a chuckle

# ? Oct 31, 2018 06:13

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

Xarn posted:

Says the person weirdly obsessed with shoes doing short temp contracts in finances.

i am a neurotic Unix greybeard with dozens of useless computers in my house, but what yospos considers weird is that I know it matters how we dress for work

here�s a hot take: shower daily. wear something different from what your mom bought you in high school

# ? Oct 31, 2018 06:16

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

work fashion chat, everyone tells me i have a really nice bag

# ? Oct 31, 2018 06:27

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

it is a nice bag

# ? Oct 31, 2018 06:27

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

tef posted:

work fashion chat, everyone tells me i have a really nice bag

this is pretty advanced material for yospos

# ? Oct 31, 2018 06:37

Nomnom Cookie: Aug 30, 2009

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

i am a neurotic Unix greybeard with dozens of useless computers in my house, but what yospos considers weird is that I know it matters how we dress for work

here�s a hot take: shower daily. wear something different from what your mom bought you in high school

I work in my underwear sometimes

# ? Oct 31, 2018 06:40

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

Kevin Mitnick P.E. posted:

I work in my underwear sometimes

this is only acceptable if it is a flannel union suit w/ butt flap

# ? Oct 31, 2018 06:55

Nomnom Cookie: Aug 30, 2009

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

this is only acceptable if it is a flannel union suit w/ butt flap

boxer briefs. I am sorry that this is unacceptable to you

# ? Oct 31, 2018 07:01

cinci zoo sniper: Mar 15, 2013

i have some canadian boxers that are also like the non-boxer underwear wrt supportiveness and it�s real nice, thanks bezos

# ? Oct 31, 2018 07:25

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

i am a neurotic Unix greybeard with dozens of useless computers in my house, but what yospos considers weird is that I know it matters how we dress for work

I dress more smartly than my boss�s boss�s boss, and that still means comfortable jeans and whatever shoes I like (i wear what you�d call waiter shoes because they look nice and feel great and it�s actually quite rare for people to get down on their knees next to me to peer at the label)

sorry you work in an ibmesque hellhole I guess?

# ? Oct 31, 2018 09:24