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The Lovers gets bound by skinny Hierophant Green and then Steely Dan cant move afterwards.
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Sheer Heart Attack isn't a long-ranged, automatic stand. It's a Close Range Stand's additional attack that happens to be long-ranged and automatic. 
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Oct 30, 2018 15:23
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Expect My Mom posted:Steely Dan never reacts to any hit Kakyoin and Polnareff land on the Lovers He gets a big wound on his head when Kakyoin hits the real one. He just was using clones for most of the fight. I think Surface would be a closer example to Black Sabbath, since Hazamada can't just bring it out whenever he wants. Meme Emulator posted:The Lovers gets bound by skinny Hierophant Green and then Steely Dan cant move afterwards. That too.
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Oct 30, 2018 16:00
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:He gets a big wound on his head when Kakyoin hits the real one. He just was using clones for most of the fight. Surface is also a Stand that's bound to a physical object, though.
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Oct 30, 2018 16:27
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drat, I remembered Lovers using clones, but not Dan getting actually bloody. Still, it seems largely autonomous
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Oct 30, 2018 16:33
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part 3 stands are kind of generally inconsistent anyways
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Oct 30, 2018 17:49
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Johnny Joestar posted:part 3 stands are kind of generally inconsistent anyways Justice being beat by Star Platinum sucking it into it's lungs and somehow choking Ebanya is one of the most disappointing conclusions to a stand fight.
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Oct 30, 2018 17:59
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For actual automatic stand that does not reflect damage to the user we have Highway Star, Judgement, Superfly, Thoth, Bastet, The Lock, Anubis, Cheap Trick, and some upcoming ones.
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Oct 30, 2018 18:29
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MonsterEnvy posted:For actual automatic stand that does not reflect damage to the user we have Highway Star, Judgement, Superfly, Thoth, Bastet, The Lock, Anubis, Cheap Trick, and some upcoming ones. Cheap Trick reflects damage to the user. When it initially latched on to Rohan, he tried to use Heaven's Door on it to get rid of it and was affected by Heaven's Door himself. Cheap Trick then mocked him, saying that it was his Stand now, and anything Rohan did to it would be reflected back on him.
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Oct 30, 2018 18:38
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It would be best to just forget that there are any "rules" for stands, going forward. Araki definitely does.
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Oct 30, 2018 18:38
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They're not rules, they're guidelines.
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Oct 30, 2018 19:04
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Monaghan posted:Justice being beat by Star Platinum sucking it into it's lungs and somehow choking Ebanya is one of the most disappointing conclusions to a stand fight. Avdol should have fought Enya. They both serve the same role in their respective groups. You could even tie that in with Avdol always showing up to save Polnareff! 
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Oct 30, 2018 20:05
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Much later on in the manga (Part 7), Araki dedicates a few pages to explaining once again every Stand rule. The only thing I could think of was how absolutely none of them didn't get broken in Part 3 alone, nevermind the 4 Parts afterwards. The only one that was undeniably true was the one that wasn't a rule at all but a possibility. Ignore any and all rules for Stands, they only matter when Araki feels like it.
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Oct 30, 2018 20:16
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Blaze Dragon posted:Much later on in the manga (Part 7), Araki dedicates a few pages to explaining once again every Stand rule. Still more consistent than the Ripple. 
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Oct 30, 2018 20:19
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Continuity is for bores
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Oct 30, 2018 20:20
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At least there's no Stand that breaks all of the rules. Yet. I think. 
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Oct 30, 2018 20:33
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W.T. Fits posted:Cheap Trick reflects damage to the user. When it initially latched on to Rohan, he tried to use Heaven's Door on it to get rid of it and was affected by Heaven's Door himself. Cheap Trick then mocked him, saying that it was his Stand now, and anything Rohan did to it would be reflected back on him. Cheap Trick didn’t reflect damage onto Rohan, it was literally latched onto his back and the only way it would come off is if the rest of his back came off with it. Thumbtacks posted:i love that every punchtime music sounds similar but different, it's a nice touch The choir in Giorno’s theme is loving glorious
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Oct 30, 2018 20:48
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:At least there's no Stand that breaks all of the rules. You'd need a Stand User that has several Stands, all of which are owned by several Users. Those Stands should be able to separate from the user without losing power and still be 100% controllable, be completely visible to people, and send no damage whatsoever to the Users, as well as being able to keep working even with the Users KOed or dead. I think that's everything? I may be missing something.
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Oct 30, 2018 21:02
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Blaze Dragon posted:You'd need a Stand User that has several Stands, all of which are owned by several Users. Those Stands should be able to separate from the user without losing power and still be 100% controllable, be completely visible to people, and send no damage whatsoever to the Users, as well as being able to keep working even with the Users KOed or dead. The cursed sword from part 3? Remote is debatable, I actually don't remember if there was an original user.
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Oct 30, 2018 21:07
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Only Stands (and I guess the Arrow) can damage stands, so the completely visible to normal people Stands would also need to be able to be harmed by normal people.
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Oct 30, 2018 21:07
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animatorZed posted:The cursed sword from part 3? Remote is debatable, I actually don't remember if there was an original user. Anubis isn't controllable and damage to Anubis may be passed towards the User...in a manner of speaking, considering the original Stand User is long-dead. It also never has several Stand Users at once. Blaze Dragon fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Oct 30, 2018 |
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Oct 30, 2018 21:22
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anubis is more like cheap trick or super fly really.
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Oct 30, 2018 21:39
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Meme Emulator posted:Only Stands (and I guess the Arrow) can damage stands, so the completely visible to normal people Stands would also need to be able to be harmed by normal people. The "only Stands can hurt Stands" rule came out of the mouth of noted Standologist and cowboy Hol Horse, anyway. Isn't Thoth the one stand that always gets it right though?
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Oct 30, 2018 21:57
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Nessus posted:I thought if the Stand had a physical form visible to non-users it could be harmed? Like Forever's ship could have been - in fact, should have been - sunk by the Chinese navy. I Imagine in like Surface and Strengths case, its the wooden doll/crappy rowboat thats getting damaged should you attack the stand and not like.. the Stand.
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Oct 30, 2018 21:59
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Wouldn't Chili Pepper be a lot better example of a stand that doesn't reflect its damage on the user? It gets cut in half, and the user didn't lose his legs or anything. Then it gets totally dissolved in the ocean and the user looks dead, but actually he's fine enough to run away and try to murder somebody right after?
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Oct 30, 2018 22:06
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Eponymous posted:Wouldn't Chili Pepper be a lot better example of a stand that doesn't reflect its damage on the user? It gets cut in half, and the user didn't lose his legs or anything. Then it gets totally dissolved in the ocean and the user looks dead, but actually he's fine enough to run away and try to murder somebody right after? Chili pepper only ever gets hit by a stand and his user's not around when that happens. So the rule could still apply.
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Oct 30, 2018 22:32
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red hot chili pepper is basically just made of electricity
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Oct 30, 2018 22:34
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Eponymous posted:Wouldn't Chili Pepper be a lot better example of a stand that doesn't reflect its damage on the user? It gets cut in half, and the user didn't lose his legs or anything. Then it gets totally dissolved in the ocean and the user looks dead, but actually he's fine enough to run away and try to murder somebody right after? Otoishi almost died when RHCP ran out of power, I think.
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Oct 30, 2018 22:34
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RHCP is one of the most OP stands. Didn’t it have all A ratings except for, I think precision? Not that stats matter that much but it’s ridiculous that it’s a controllable over long distances without losing power/speed.
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Oct 30, 2018 22:53
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Pomplamoose posted:RHCP is one of the most OP stands. Didn’t it have all A ratings except for, I think precision? Not that stats matter that much but it’s ridiculous that it’s a controllable over long distances without losing power/speed. It apparently does lose some power and speed when far from it's user, Just not nearly as much as most other stands when far from their user. It does get stronger when close to it's user. It's only real flaw is the need for a nearby power source to maintain it's strength.
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Oct 31, 2018 00:33
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it's pretty much an exception to the usual rules because it lives and dies by the presence of electricity. generally stands aren't loving useless if there's no electricity nearby but rhcp basically is
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Oct 31, 2018 01:10
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the "rules" are more general guidelines than anything, each stand comes with it's own ruleset and SOMETIMES they overlap, that's about it
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Oct 31, 2018 01:31
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Is there any place online to legally purchase the live action Part 4 movie? I'd rather like to watch it, but man...searching for it is rather difficult when 99% of the search results lead me to anime or manga stuff
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Oct 31, 2018 01:44
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jivjov posted:Is there any place online to legally purchase the live action Part 4 movie? I'd rather like to watch it, but man...searching for it is rather difficult when 99% of the search results lead me to anime or manga stuff it was on netflix a couple months back
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Oct 31, 2018 01:49
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Viz is working on a Western release of it.
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Oct 31, 2018 02:03
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Monaghan posted:Justice being beat by Star Platinum sucking it into it's lungs and somehow choking Ebanya is one of the most disappointing conclusions to a stand fight.
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Oct 31, 2018 03:52
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but star finger
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Oct 31, 2018 03:57
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Augus posted:but star finger that was when araki was trying to give his characters shounen finishing moves(see also crossfire hurricane) so of course the one he made for his protagonist was a weird extending finger
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Oct 31, 2018 04:05
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Supersonic Shine posted:I’m probably the only person who had no problem with the way that fight ended. It’s just super strength applied to Star Platinum’s lungs. I love it too, just because of "huh, yeah, that would defeat a gaseous stand, wouldn't it".
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Red Hot Chili Pepper IRL https://twitter.com/mondomascots/status/1057484377960144896
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