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jesus WEP posted:has anyone else been genuinely concerned for granny’s wellbeing since the last thursday show? What happened?
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Aesop Poprock posted:What happened?
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jesus WEP posted:has anyone else been genuinely concerned for granny’s wellbeing since the last thursday show? ive been worried about her for about a year now dude. it's going to come out of nowhere.
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And then she'll talk about working in the yard all day.
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I don't listen to B+V anymore because IMO the granny segment wasn't funny or worth listening to so I always ended up skipping it which ended up being almost half the episode sometimes. The last ones I heard she felt pretty disinterested in general and I can't really take them laughing at her saying wrestling moves wrong anymore. I know it's in good fun and it's not like she's forced to do it but I think maybe he should consider letting her go and not have to watch a bunch of wrestling every week. I heard Bryan talk about her slurring her words on WOL, he basically said it wasn't a big deal and he went to see her that night and she was fine but yeah I imagine there's going to be a time that'll probably be sooner than later where she just physically can't do the show anymore for one reason or another.
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On that hilarious note, I just signed up for a sub. I'm listening to the retro Raw/Nitro shows starting at the beginning of 2017, and those are fun. What's the other good stuff to be found on there, aside from the main show with Dave and Bryan.
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ICHIBAHN posted:Dave endorsing the old rape at the end of WOR was a fair buzz
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If past incidences are any indication, it's probably Dave awkwardly saying a thing was bad, but is better now, and a bunch of people claiming Dave said something bad was no big deal.
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davidbix posted:Do I even want to know what this is about? Dave said rape is bad, which means Dave endorsed rape.
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davidbix posted:Do I even want to know what this is about? If most people pull the "I'm not racist, but" line you just assume they're racist for 99% of people, Meltzer will just keep talking and say "it was a different time" for absolutely no reason other than he can't stop himself from talking
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It was Dave longwindedly being desensitized to wrestlers being lovely people. It was an impossible question to give a noncontroversial answer to and the whole thing was Dave clearly hating how loving gross the industry was then. Truther Vandross fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Oct 30, 2018 |
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He made a specific point that it wasn't just wrestling, all sports were like that.
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VJeff posted:He made a specific point that it wasn't just wrestling, all sports were like that. Correct. He just seemed defeated in general I guess. He also mentioned rock bands in the 60s and 70s and what not.
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sportsgenius86 posted:Correct. He just seemed defeated in general I guess. He also mentioned rock bands in the 60s and 70s and what not. The only one I've heard about is that Mountain Goats dude, when goddamn, every rock star was terrible. David Bowie hosed kids, and nobody talks about it. Led Zeppelin is my favorite band, but you know they were doing some heinous poo poo.
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LividLiquid posted:David Bowie hosed kids, and nobody talks about it. Led Zeppelin is my favorite band, but you know they were doing some heinous poo poo. It's funny, I'm in charge of the music at work, and I threw a hissy fit about that goddamn Gary Glitter song being on our play list, yet when it comes to Zeppelin and Bowie and every other scumbag musician/rock group, I'm like "Ehhhhhh, whaddya gonna do...?" I am a colossal hypocrite.
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DangerDummy! posted:It's funny, I'm in charge of the music at work, and I threw a hissy fit about that goddamn Gary Glitter song being on our play list, yet when it comes to Zeppelin and Bowie and every other scumbag musician/rock group, I'm like "Ehhhhhh, whaddya gonna do...?" I mean Zeppelin & Bowie made good music. You could justify it like "they hosed groupies and didn't ask about age while Glitter went out of his way to gently caress kids" but really it's just if someone is good enough it's a lot easier to separate art & artist. People still love watching Woody Allen & Roman Polanski films.
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RealFoxy posted:Dave meltzer’s top 3 moments are apparently the birth of his children, a Don Frye match, and loving Manama Toyota That’s a good top 3 tbh
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sportsgenius86 posted:That’s a good top 3 tbh Yeah
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This is why Dave can't run for public office.
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forkboy84 posted:I mean Zeppelin & Bowie made good music. You could justify it like "they hosed groupies and didn't ask about age while Glitter went out of his way to gently caress kids" but really it's just if someone is good enough it's a lot easier to separate art & artist. People still love watching Woody Allen & Roman Polanski films. turns out it was really really easy to just cut out the "nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh HEY" guy out, even though it was a certified jock jam
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coconono posted:This is why Dave can't run for public office.
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Just do what the San Jose Sharks did. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM-QwrPckdI Not the same song, so no royalties!
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forkboy84 posted:I mean Zeppelin & Bowie made good music. You could justify it like "they hosed groupies and didn't ask about age while Glitter went out of his way to gently caress kids" Jimmy Page was a gross piece of poo poo pederast on par with Ted Nugent and I'm amazed it never comes up. I'm also amazed that Prince never gets called out for being both abusive and a major homophobe.
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Meltzer retweeted this, but, uh, isn't this literally how Meltzer got started? https://twitter.com/ocampoxlaw/status/1057344261178384384
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Endless Mike posted:Meltzer retweeted this, but, uh, isn't this literally how Meltzer got started? Dave's got a Journalism degree though and wrote for newspapers though?
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Endless Mike posted:Meltzer retweeted this, but, uh, isn't this literally how Meltzer got started? Uh. Frank Deford?
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He was a journalist and sports writer before The Wrestling Observer but the Observer was pretty much born out of him being an autistic level fan. Edit: it also feels like some gatekeeping to say that you can never become a legit journalist with the start of "being a fan who takes photos and writes stories". It's harder but it feels like a viable path if you put in the work and produce quality content. Gumball Gumption fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Oct 30, 2018 |
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a big fat bunny posted:Dave's got a Journalism degree though and wrote for newspapers though? Did he? I guess I wasn't aware of that!
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Endless Mike posted:Did he? I guess I wasn't aware of that! Yeah, had to google it. i mean, i get what you're saying because Gumball Gumption said it best Gumball Gumption posted:He was a journalist and sports writer before The Wrestling Observer but the Observer was pretty much born out of him being an autistic level fan.
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Is there a podcast or observer article about how he first got access to sources and stuff? I can't imagine that was a fun or easy process
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Aesop Poprock posted:Is there a podcast or observer article about how he first got access to sources and stuff? I can't imagine that was a fun or easy process I think a Texas promoter took him through everything but I can't remember which one. He's written about it before
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TTBF posted:I think a Texas promoter took him through everything but I can't remember which one. He's written about it before Paul Boesch but that was after he started writing the Observer. He's talked about it on various WORs but I don't remember which ones off hand. His Art of Wrestling appearance covered his career a good deal though.
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Luigi Thirty posted:The funniest story related to that was James Mitchell getting a booking job somewhere because he was one of the earliest Observer subscribers, would memorize entire articles, and rattle them off to the boys to look like a genius. To be fair, Dave fits about two War and Peaces into each newsletter, so memorizing that is pretty impressive!
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Gabe done killed the only podcast dedicated to Evolve https://twitter.com/evolvepod/status/1057381243145412608
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Honestly I'm more interested in their next podcast idea if its going to be about wrestling and politics.
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Dave also said something like he would ring the arenas and get the house numbers so all the wrestlers would subscribe to find out if they were being underpaid or not. Which is a good way to get readers and sources!
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Aesop Poprock posted:Is there a podcast or observer article about how he first got access to sources and stuff? I can't imagine that was a fun or easy process The Sep 17, 2018 issue of the WON goes into great detail about his early years
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achillesforever6 posted:Gabe done killed the only podcast dedicated to Evolve I don't want to listen to the whole thing, what happened here?
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