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euphronius posted:Seems like an awfully specific hypothetical at this point!!! Oh, it's a legit situation, I'm not involved in it myself other than knowing the parties involved. I work in Title Insurance so I am avoiding giving her legal advice, but I'm trying to figure out the right questions she can ask an attorney if she needs one.
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You can’t sue a grandmother to death. Yet.
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euphronius posted:You can’t sue a grandmother to death. Thanks for the advice. Any other thoughts you may have on the situation would be helpful. Seems like her options aren't good until she gains that ability.
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Who the hell is the conservator, one of the attorneys? And they're trying to force the granddaughter--who has a mental disability--into giving up her permanent interest in the house for some temporary money? This seems like the sort of thing the granddaughter should be able to get legal aid for. Are the granddaughter's parents out of the picture? Does she have any sort of help for something like this?
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That was not advice.
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Maybe Granddaughter can find a shady company to sell her future property interest to, and get a reverse mortgage to pay the rent to Grandma (at that point you could probably find a better suited house to rent, since you're not getting family rental rates). The math probably doesn't work out for a reverse mortgage to a young person, though. Key words to shout out the window in the commercial: "It's my vested remainder interest, and I want it now!" Thanatosian posted:Who the hell is the conservator, one of the attorneys? And they're trying to force the granddaughter--who has a mental disability--into giving up her permanent interest in the house for some temporary money? Granddaughter doesn't have a permanent interest until Grandma is dead, per my reading. It's Grandma's house to occupy or rent until Grandma dies, and the conservator is making sure the house isn't lost to a tax sale by making sure Grandma has enough funds. Presumably this arrangement prevents the Conservator from selling the house, and using the proceeds to pay themselves after Grandma's bank account dries up. Devor fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Oct 22, 2018 |
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Maybe there is a bar where all the down on their luck future interest owners congregate to share their troubles. The Vested Remainderman. The Springing Interest. The Right of Reëentry.
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Oct 22, 2018 18:49
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euphronius posted:You can’t sue a grandmother to death. Attorney I work with literally killed a lady in a deposition once Made her so angry she died of a heart attack a couple days later
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Oct 22, 2018 18:52
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Attorney I work with literally killed a lady in a deposition once So could you use the deposition at trial ??
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Thanatosian posted:Who the hell is the conservator, one of the attorneys? And they're trying to force the granddaughter--who has a mental disability--into giving up her permanent interest in the house for some temporary money? If this is the situation, you may want to contact your local disability advocacy agency -- https://www.ndrn.org/ndrn-member-agencies.html (click on your state on the right hand side for your local variant). It's like legal aid but just for people with disabilities. If the granddaughter has a mental / intellectual disability she may qualify for their assistance.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Attorney I work with literally killed a lady in a deposition once Apropos of heart attacks during depositions, here's a perennial favorite re-enactment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZbqAMEwtOE
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euphronius posted:So could you use the deposition at trial ?? I dunno, long before my time. I think the case settled.
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My extended family has an apartment in Miami that we rent out half the year, and use for ourselves half the year. Last year the building's administration started a pretty intense set of renovations which have essentially rendered the apartment uninhabitable, meaning that it definitely can't be rented and it arguably cannot be used by us either. As a bonus, coop dues have doubled due to the giant loan they took out to pay for all of this. I'm thinking we need to consult a lawyer on what sort of actions we should be taking to document all of this, or notifying the administration about our grievances, in case it comes down to legal action. What sort of lawyer should I be looking for? A GP of some kind? If anyone has any recs, they're appreciated as well.
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LLJKSiLk posted:Warranty Deed with Life Estate - Alabama there are lots of moral issues at play here, but i'm not seeing any legal issue. the granddaughter has no right in the property at all until the grandmother dies, as you've said it. legally speaking the grandmother has no more obligation to house the granddaughter than you do. now, it is unclear to me that the conservator is really honoring his client's wishes instead of feathering his own nest here though and i have serious questions about if he's discharging his obligations to the grandmother. i am especially troubled by the offer to buy out her interest in the property. who is making this offer and who would be the owner if they bought her out. if the conservator is looking to buy the property i'm very troubled. if the conservator is looking to buy the property on behalf of the grandmother i am not that much less troubled, given the grandmother's clear wishes that her granddaughter have the property after she dies, there's no reason that she would want to "buy it back". there are innocent explanations: perhaps what the conservator has suggested is that grandmother needs money and has no use for the life estate (but can't sell it, nobody wants to buy it), granddaughter needs money, what they should do is combine grandmother's life estate and granddaughter's remainder estate and sell the whole package to a third party, fund grandmother's nursing home, and give a fair amount of money to the granddaughter. but it still smells. the issue is that the granddaughter obviously has a conflict here and i don't know who can raise that issue, but it smells to hell to me and if there's anyone else in the family that can start asking hard questions about what the gently caress this conservator is doing, they should, though obviously they should get the information firsthand instead of thirdhand.
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There should be a local office of aging or similar.
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Also Reverse Mortgages are bad bad bad.
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blarzgh posted:Also Reverse Mortgages are bad bad bad. I thought they were complicated. What's bad bad bad about them? Kawasaki Nun fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Oct 22, 2018 |
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Ur Getting Fatter posted:My extended family has an apartment in Miami that we rent out half the year, and use for ourselves half the year. you want a real estate attorney or landlord attorney, and since its Miami I assume there are condo attorneys
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evilweasel posted:there are lots of moral issues at play here, but i'm not seeing any legal issue. the granddaughter has no right in the property at all until the grandmother dies, as you've said it. legally speaking the grandmother has no more obligation to house the granddaughter than you do. I appreciate the additional advice. I get point one, and relating to the offer to buy out her interest, by my understanding it's the "property manager" of the conservator who made the offer to buy out granddaughter's interest. I'm not sure if that's on behalf of grandmother (although my guess is that they want to sell the property to pay for the nursing home stuff (in addition to taking her SSI) and granddaughter's future interest prevents that). Based on what I've gathered, Grandmother's conservator/lawyer cannot sell the property and cannot rent it either without getting Granddaughter's rights removed/sold. It seems like they just want to get money for the nursing home costs. I told Granddaughter to make sure the county taxes get paid either way. Granddaughter has a mother who lives in Utah but they are estranged. All other family members are estranged as well. Literally, nobody else in their family who gives a poo poo or would lift a finger to help either of them. One of the family members actually took Grandmother to the ATM to drain her bank account prior to the conservatorship being enacted. Assuming they make her an offer to purchase, is that something she should consider? I'm personally leaning toward yes as the property is not in great shape anyway. The property is maybe worth $60k and has need of repairs. Or as someone pointed out earlier, would that mess up her own Disability income?
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LLJKSiLk posted:I appreciate the additional advice. I love how you tag every single lawyer's comments with "thanks for the advice" like you're a joinder-creating machine And why would you as a a paralegal/whatever at the title company be weighing in on this with her? Presumably your boss is a lawyer and would tell you not to talk to her about it, and not to give her questions for her to ask a lawyer. Ask your boss what you can tell her, if you can give her the contact info for legal aid for disabled people, and when they say no you can let this go
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Kawasaki Nun posted:I thought they were complicated. What's bad bad bad about them? They're predatory, designed to default if the homeowner so much as farts in the wrong direction, which ends up with Nana losing the house while she's still alive, and more often than not result in a windfall for the mortgage company and fucks over the estate.
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Turtlicious posted:can this thread get moved to E/N for 2 weeks i wanna see what would happen. We would all stop answering questions and start whining about our crappy jobs and how the partners are never considerate about our gag reflex.
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blarzgh posted:They're predatory, designed to default if the homeowner so much as farts in the wrong direction, which ends up with Nana losing the house while she's still alive, and more often than not result in a windfall for the mortgage company and fucks over the estate. They're just about the most late-stage capitalist/American thing I can think of. If someone is that hard up, they're better off straight up selling the house so they can have a lump of money they can actually do things with.
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Devor posted:I love how you tag every single lawyer's comments with "thanks for the advice" like you're a joinder-creating machine I appreciate the advice.  Seriously though, I'm "weighing in" as a friend and have been helping her navigate a few issues in her life over the past month. She left an abusive situation, so I went through the local D.A. and got them to make contact and they've been connecting her with free/reduced legal help for her PFA hearings/etc. She's been in/out of women's shelters and crashing on people's couches, so as she's low on resources I'm trying to point her toward options to navigate the situation she finds herself in. I obviously can't give her legal advice, but I've been getting her phone numbers/etc. for attorneys. Based on the comments here, I've gotten her the information for the low-income/reduced fee legal folks, and she's supposed to get with them tomorrow.
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blarzgh posted:They're predatory, designed to default if the homeowner so much as farts in the wrong direction, which ends up with Nana losing the house while she's still alive, and more often than not result in a windfall for the mortgage company and fucks over the estate. I'm not hearing any downside?
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after watching making a murderer, what are the chances that Brendan Dassey dies in prison?
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A 50S RAYGUN posted:after watching making a murderer, what are the chances that Brendan Dassey dies in prison? Pretty good, considering he helped Avery rape and murder that woman, burn the body and hide her car in the junkyard. Edit: Nvm, he'll be eligible for parole when he's 60 blarzgh fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Oct 24, 2018 |
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e: figured it out nm
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A 50S RAYGUN posted:after watching making a murderer, what are the chances that Brendan Dassey dies in prison? Prison is really what you make it. It's all a range of awful options, but many are much shorter than others.
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In the past, I worked for a consulting company. While at that company, I worked on projects for several big name companies. Now, several years later, I'm an independent consultant and I'd like to advertise that I've worked with those big name companies. Is there any legal reason that I can't/shouldn't do that?
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Isn’t it incredibly bad practice to do that in the consulting world?
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I'm sure the agency would think so. I'm curious about whether or not it's legal.
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Did you sign anything that could be construed as a non-disclosure?
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It was a long time ago so I don't remember the details of exactly what I signed, but I'd be surprised if there wasn't an NDA portion of it. I'll check my files, thanks!
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fantastic in plastic posted:It was a long time ago so I don't remember the details of exactly what I signed, but I'd be surprised if there wasn't an NDA portion of it. I'll check my files, thanks! I assume consultants don’t have any sort of ethical obligations like lawyers do, but for lawyers revealing the name of a client without their consent is a no-no (unless it’s already known eg you’ve represented them in open court.). If there is such a thing as consultant ethics, check them.
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Also you can always describe them without identifying, as in “advised Fortune 500 technology company on X” or “assisted multinational automobile manufacturer in implementing Y”
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homullus posted:I can't tell whether this thread likes nerdy law questions. I guess we'll see! One of the elements of conversion and theft is that the property belongs to another, therefore, like a peacock trying to kill the other peacock in the mirror, it makes your classmate an idiot, not a thief, technically or otherwise.
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O Henry writing the exam now
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