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Fenrir: Apr 26, 2005; I found my kendo stick, bitch!; Lipstick Apathy

PupsOfWar posted:

I'm mostly just not sure who's playing free safety now

neither Jones nor Brice has experience centerfielding and the other safeties on the roster are unproven

switching Jones over would both not suit his current skillset and remove flexibility with nickel packages

Probably Tramon.

# ? Oct 31, 2018 04:23

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# ? Jun 9, 2024 20:57

rabidsquid: Oct 11, 2004; LOVES THE KOG

golden tate was a lot of fun to watch but i dont think they were going to re-sign him and i mean honestly this trade wouldnt stop them from bringing him back either way

the most curious thing is ive seen a lot of "the lions are stupid and would have gotten a 3rd or 4th rounder in compensatory picks for him!" because thats requires you sit out of free agency entirely to recoup that one pick which, i mean its nice to have as an option but pretending its the same as just getting a third is totally inaccurate

# ? Oct 31, 2018 04:32

Paint Crop Pro: Mar 22, 2007; Find someone who values you like Rick Spielman values 7th round picks.

I think it was a pretty good trade. Lions get a mid round pic, and with the emergence of Golladay and an actual running game it seems like at least 1 WR was expendable.

# ? Oct 31, 2018 06:16

Pops Mgee: Aug 20, 2009; People all over the world,
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Montgomery had to go mainly so stubborn Fat Mike wouldn�t be able to force him into the backfield anymore. Now he has no choice but to use Jones now.

Get ready for Randall Cobb�s return to the running game! Nobody will be able to guess what happens next when we put him back there! :shepicide:

# ? Oct 31, 2018 06:34

Whooping Crabs: Apr 13, 2010; Sorry for the derail but I fuckin love me some racoons

If the Packers are sellers at the trade deadline, it makes me wonder if a decision has already been made on McCarthy.

# ? Oct 31, 2018 07:15

Fenrir: Apr 26, 2005; I found my kendo stick, bitch!; Lipstick Apathy

Whooping Crabs posted:

If the Packers are sellers at the trade deadline, it makes me wonder if a decision has already been made on McCarthy.

I was thinking this too.

# ? Oct 31, 2018 12:49

Anti-Hero: Feb 26, 2004

As in Fat Mike is out?

# ? Oct 31, 2018 14:07

humpthewind: Jan 8, 2007; Noblest of all dogs is the hot-dog; it feeds the hand that bites it.

Do you dump him midseason or wait until the off-season? It seems like making Rodgers happy earlier is the better play.

# ? Oct 31, 2018 15:14

Blotto Skorzany: Nov 7, 2008; He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
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McCarthy has gone stale for sure, but I don't know how much of an improvement you're going to get replacing him. The average NFL coach has at least as many flaws.

# ? Oct 31, 2018 16:15

Dexo: Aug 15, 2009; A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

Packers need a innovative offensive mind?

# ? Oct 31, 2018 16:25

American McGay: Feb 28, 2010; by sebmojo

Dexo posted:

Packers need a innovative offensive mind?

I knew exactly what this was going to be before I clicked it.

Other options could also be Mike Martz or John Shoop.

# ? Oct 31, 2018 17:19

Durandal1707: Oct 11, 2013

humpthewind posted:

Do you dump him midseason or wait until the off-season? It seems like making Rodgers happy earlier is the better play.

I imagine they'll let him try and swim during the regular season and if the Packers miss the postseason again, he's gone.

# ? Oct 31, 2018 17:43

Play: Apr 25, 2006; Strong stroll for a mangy stray

The Vikings might actually have the worst offensive line in football. I'm amazed I didn't see that coming, I had no idea they were gonna be that bad this year. It's really stunting everything they do and putting Cousins in a pretty poo poo situation of no run game and constantly being under pressure.

# ? Oct 31, 2018 17:47

Durandal1707: Oct 11, 2013

The Vikings' o-line is not nearly as bad as the Giants' or the Cardinals' but it's pretty below average. They lost a couple dudes to injury that haven't really recovered fully yet, from what I understand. So their run game is pretty crap and they can't slow it down. Cousins has done very well, all things considered.

# ? Oct 31, 2018 17:53

Play: Apr 25, 2006; Strong stroll for a mangy stray

Durandal1707 posted:

The Vikings' o-line is not nearly as bad as the Giants' or the Cardinals' but it's pretty below average. They lost a couple dudes to injury that haven't really recovered fully yet, from what I understand. So their run game is pretty crap and they can't slow it down. Cousins has done very well, all things considered.

That's true but with the Vikings it's kind of worse because everything else is absolutely there for them to be a postseason competitor. Rashod Hill must be the worst tackle in the entire league. I knew it would probably slow them down but it's been much worse than I expected

e: Football Outsiders has them at 27th in the league. Could be worse, but definitely too low imo to be a legit postseason threat going forward. The NFC North is kind of wide open right now and it's starting to look like only one team will go to the postseason from there.

# ? Oct 31, 2018 18:47

mastershakeman: Oct 28, 2008; by vyelkin

It's ok dalvin cook is gonna come back any minute and rush for 1000 yards

# ? Oct 31, 2018 19:03

Durandal1707: Oct 11, 2013

Play posted:

That's true but with the Vikings it's kind of worse because everything else is absolutely there for them to be a postseason competitor. Rashod Hill must be the worst tackle in the entire league. I knew it would probably slow them down but it's been much worse than I expected

e: Football Outsiders has them at 27th in the league. Could be worse, but definitely too low imo to be a legit postseason threat going forward. The NFC North is kind of wide open right now and it's starting to look like only one team will go to the postseason from there.

Yeah, they kinda strike me as being in the same camp as the Texans, albeit with way better coaching. Good on both sides of the ball on paper, but they can't block worth a poo poo and it's gonna cost them when they go up against a team with a real pass rush in the playoffs.

# ? Oct 31, 2018 22:12

Gonz: Dec 22, 2009; "Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"

https://twitter.com/BradGalli/status/1057814795406229505

# ? Nov 1, 2018 03:02

CRIP EATIN BREAD: Jun 24, 2002; Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T; Soiled Meat

holy poo poo that pic

# ? Nov 1, 2018 05:37

Timby: Dec 23, 2006; Your mother!

American McGay posted:

I knew exactly what this was going to be before I clicked it.

Other options could also be Mike Martz or John Shoop.

Oh, God, provide a trigger warning before reminding people of the run and Shoop.

# ? Nov 1, 2018 06:00

SKULL.GIF: Jan 20, 2017

https://twitter.com/Peter_Bukowski/status/1057666022650585088

https://twitter.com/WesHod/status/1057725234453929984

# ? Nov 1, 2018 21:33

SKULL.GIF: Jan 20, 2017

This is a pretty clear hit piece on HHCD, driven by a team insider, but some interesting tidbits here: https://www.packersnews.com/story/s...ine/1848782002/

quote:

At age 25, Clinton-Dix should have be hitting his peak as an NFL safety, yet he has regressed to the point where the Packers considered the former first-round draft pick part of the problem, not part of the solution, to their defensive issues.

And much of it traces back to Clinton-Dix�s Pro Bowl two years ago. He came away from that honor thinking he was a great player entitled to a huge contract. His work ethic and attention to detail suffered, and his quest to make big plays prevailed at the expense of doing his job.

Anyone who has watched the Packers regularly the last 1� years has witnessed his incredibly uneven play. Though he intercepted six passes going back to 2017, he also gave up far too many plays by gambling in coverage and missing tackles as the last line of defense.

quote:

�He thought he was good enough that he didn�t have to study as much as a rookie (does),� a team source said of Clinton-Dix�s mindset the last two seasons. �He�s guessing (in pass coverage). He�s thinking that�s how you get paid.�

The Clinton-Dix trade this week brings to mind the Packers� release of guard Josh Sitton just before the start of the 2016 season. Like Sitton's, Clinton-Dix�s play had declined. Like Sitton, he felt deserving of a lucrative contract extension but was rebuffed by the team. And like Sitton, his indignation carried over to the locker room, where he groused to teammates about not being rewarded with a new deal.

NFL teams don�t like unhappy veterans influencing ascending young players, especially if that veteran isn�t a star. So first with Sitton and now Clinton-Dix, the Packers very suddenly parted ways. They never missed Sitton. We�ll see in the second half of this season whether the same is true with Clinton-Dix.

quote:

It�s true that Clinton-Dix has his moments of excellence, like his impressive interception of Buffalo rookie quarterback Josh Allen in Week 4 this year. On that play, Clinton-Dix held his deep zone until Allen threw outside, then made a strong break on the ball and knocked receiver Kelvin Benjamin out of the game while making a tough, physical interception.

But then there are the big plays where he freelanced and gave up points.

In Week 2 against Minnesota he sat back hoping for an overthrow interception rather than stepping up to pick up Laquon Treadwell on a 14-yard slant for a touchdown.

In Week 3 against Washington he gave up a nine-yard touchdown pass to Jamison Crowder even after cornerback Tramon Williams pointed to alert him to a possible slant coming his way.

In Week 5 at Detroit, he gave up an eight-yard touchdown pass to Marvin Jones when he blatantly abandoned his zone in quarters coverage looking to make a big play.

And who can forget how he mailed it in during the last game of 2017, with the Packers out of the playoff race? That�s not the way to play if you�re looking to get paid.

�He�s just so incredibly inconsistent,� said a high-ranking scout for another NFL team.

This wasn't mentioned in the article but it reminded me of this moment from 2014: http://www.nfl.com/videos/seattle-seahawks/0ap3000000460844/Wilson-finds-Willson-for-the-2-point-conversion He takes like 2 hops towards Willson, doesn't even get in front of him or play the ball or anything.

# ? Nov 2, 2018 16:03

Paint Crop Pro: Mar 22, 2007; Find someone who values you like Rick Spielman values 7th round picks.

Sounds like a coaching problem ultimately.

# ? Nov 2, 2018 16:15

BGrifter: Mar 16, 2007; Winner of Something Awful PS5 thread's Posting Excellence Award June 2022

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Yeah thats a total failure by the coaching staff. He�ll sign with the Patriots or someone in the offseason and never miss a Pro Bowl again.

God my team is loving dumb sometimes.

# ? Nov 2, 2018 17:05

Leon Einstein: Feb 6, 2012; I must win every thread in GBS. I don't care how much banal semantic quibbling and shitty posts it takes.

BGrifter posted:

Yeah thats a total failure by the coaching staff. He’ll sign with the Patriots or someone in the offseason and never miss a Pro Bowl again.

God my team is loving dumb sometimes.

Eh, he really hasn't been great. I'm ok with it. Seriously though, they're so stocked with picks that they'd better be great next year.

# ? Nov 2, 2018 17:18

Hako: Jul 14, 2017; by FactsAreUseless

Hako fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Nov 2, 2018

# ? Nov 2, 2018 17:26

MJeff: Jun 2, 2011; THE LIAR

Dix sounds like a real waste of a roster space, surely this will be addition by subtraction and the Packers will have no problems with inconsistency on defense now. :v:

# ? Nov 2, 2018 17:54

SKULL.GIF: Jan 20, 2017

VJeff posted:

Dix sounds like a real waste of a roster space, surely this will be addition by subtraction and the Packers will have no problems with inconsistency on defense now.

I think moving Tramon to safety and getting Breeland on the field will make the whole situation end up being a wash, tbh. Williams had clearly lost a step on the field, but still knows how to play. King, Breeland, Alexander shouldn't be too bad of a CB corps.

# ? Nov 2, 2018 18:32

Henchman of Santa: Aug 21, 2010

https://twitter.com/ajmcleland/status/1058777909966471178?s=21

# ? Nov 4, 2018 00:24

tinstaach: Aug 3, 2010; MAGNetic AttITUDE

https://twitter.com/SandoESPN/status/1058811623060717570

owned

# ? Nov 4, 2018 01:40

SirPablo: May 1, 2004; Pillbug

How much did Bradford end up getting from the Cardinals?

# ? Nov 4, 2018 06:27

Gonz: Dec 22, 2009; "Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"

SirPablo posted:

How much did Bradford end up getting from the Cardinals?

13.5 mil for 3 games played.

# ? Nov 4, 2018 06:28

Low Desert Punk: Jul 4, 2012; i have absolutely no fucking money

Gonz posted:

13.5 mil for 3 games played.

good money if you can get it

# ? Nov 4, 2018 14:47

Rectal Placenta: Feb 25, 2011

Bradford's agent deserves to go to the HOF

# ? Nov 4, 2018 15:56

iospace: Jan 19, 2038

Rectal Placenta posted:

Bradford's agent deserves to go to the HOF

Rectal Placenta posted:

Bradford's agent deserves to go to the HOF

This is a more general NFL opinion but I maintain that no NFL athlete has earned more to do less than Bradford, and since his draft class was the last one with massive rookie contracts I'm not sure that another player ever will.

# ? Nov 4, 2018 16:08