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Toshimo posted:lolnope it feels totally epic going from 9 HP at level 1 to 12 HP at level 2 while everyone else is high rolling and the DM is going "Well, good thing you guys will be able to take a hit now" Your DM sounds like kind of an rear end in a top hat. But taking a debt sounds better then being Brain Dead. Like I think any good aligned temple in the city would allow a loan. Fixing the problem in exchange for being payed back later. Toshimo posted:But the DM has a real hard-on for flanking. He uses the flanking optional rules? Man a lot of advantage is going to get passed out.
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Toshimo posted:Yeah, this isn't going so well in general. Ohhhhhhh boy, you have the Tummyfeelz GM. I mean I guess if you figure out what they think is Correct Playing you're in for a smooth ride... if you also have the correct setup for Correct Playing.
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Darwinism posted:Ohhhhhhh boy, you have the Tummyfeelz GM. Not gonna happen. Highlights:
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Our party is amazing though.
I'm the only one without a negative Int mod. Mine is zero. The DM has gotten a little huffy about my lack of interest in rolling dice. Like one time I had an opportunity attack, but I'm unarmed with a negative strength mod and I was like "nope, my snakeman doesn't really get down with punching fleeing foes" and he was like "wuh huh?!?" and he's a little miffed that I'm not down with arcana or other int stuff because he seems to think ~all spellcasters are a flavor of wizard~ and how dare I not be interested in the mystical arts. MOTHERFUCKER I MADE A DARK PACT WITH A RADIANT BEING OF PURE GOODNESS BY ACCIDENT WHILE TRYING TO ATTAIN WORLD-SUBJUGATING POWER. I AM PRETTY NONPLUSSED BY THE WHOLE THING AND I'M NOT loving HARRY POTTER SO NO I DON'T GIVE A poo poo ABOUT SOME DUDE'S SPELLBOOK OR WHATEVER.
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Toshimo posted:~all spellcasters are a flavor of wizard~ Right in the feels.
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Toshimo posted:Our party is amazing though. I think 5e is a trash game and even I think it's your GM thats the problem. gently caress me, I assume my current bard who acts like a paladin (cause hes warlord) would piss this guy off a thousand fold. He does not sing, he does not dance, he wears full plate and wields a greatsword.
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kingcom posted:I think 5e is a trash game and even I think it's your GM thats the problem. This case is a trash game/module and trash GM in a feedback loop.
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Nov 1, 2018 05:47
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Does that GM do anything well enough to make up for the litany of ways that they suck?
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Elysiume posted:Does that GM do anything well enough to make up for the litany of ways that they suck? He's enthusiastic!
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Enthusiastic is the best. If you complain about anything, you are the fun-ruining rear end in a top hat!
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If we get to the next page without someone spotting the problem with that party list, I'm gonna be heckin' mad, tho.
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Conspiratiorist posted:Enthusiastic is the best. This. I get stunlocked then KO'd before my first turn in the final encounter, and I'm a whiny rear end in a top hat for mentioning, after the game, that I was pretty disappointed that "Can someone come help me up?" was my entire contribution to the final epic battle, and I spent an hour and a half being bored with what should have been awesome. But everyone else was energetically enthusiastic about the session? No fuckin' poo poo, I wonder what was different about their experience? e: Wow, I just realised I've got a "why didn't you come back, you had a good time" email from that guy. I'm just gonna ignore it. Elector_Nerdlingen fucked around with this message at 05:58 on Nov 1, 2018 |
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Rolled stats: Your all 11's stat array means ROLEPLAY OPPORTUNITY! Pay no attention to the fact only people who liked rolled stats get good numbers, as demanded by the cruel whims of fate. Point buy: Being physically incapable of getting higher than a +3 modifier to start? Pretty OP. Toshimo posted:If we get to the next page without someone spotting the problem with that party list, I'm gonna be heckin' mad, tho. 
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Healers are OP bullshit anyway, real men shout their hands back on
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Section Z posted:Nobody went for your all snakemen party gimmick, which is just rude. What could have been They aren't snakemen... yet! I forgot the part where the DM was all like "you're not EEEVIL are you?" and I was like "Ya, but I'm a loving healer, so it's not really a stab you in the balls kind of evil, it's a ALL WILL BE MADE TO SERVE THE SNAKE PEOPLE (AND BY THAT I MEAN ME) IN TIME evil."
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Darwinism posted:Healers are OP bullshit anyway, real men shout their hands back on The DM also seemed non-plussed somehow that my class feature heal was a bonus action, as if HEALING WORD didn't already exist.
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Toshimo posted:They aren't snakemen... yet! I forgot the part where the DM was all like "you're not EEEVIL are you?" and I was like "Ya, but I'm a loving healer, so it's not really a stab you in the balls kind of evil, it's a ALL WILL BE MADE TO SERVE THE SNAKE PEOPLE (AND BY THAT I MEAN ME) IN TIME evil." Nobody would complain about Evil party members if there were more like you. You are doing snake god's work. I would sign away my legs to my new lord and master who keeps my innards inside, rather than deal with a Paladin distrustful me because I own a pair of lockpicks. Section Z fucked around with this message at 06:16 on Nov 1, 2018 |
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kingcom posted:I think 5e is a trash game and even I think it's your GM thats the problem. gently caress me, I assume my current bard who acts like a paladin (cause hes warlord) would piss this guy off a thousand fold. He does not sing, he does not dance, he wears full plate and wields a greatsword. Go On. Tell me more.
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Is the mistake that you aren't an Ancients Paladin for crazy anti-magic stuff at 7th level? I mean between a Paladin and a Celestial Warlock you might have enough healing. frajaq posted:hi Sadly there isn't actually a lot of new content beyond the PHB. A few subclasses in a book here or there, but very few, a number of new races in various books, absolutely no new official classes yet. Some feats in a book or two, and spells out the wazoo from multiple books because of course. That said if you are willing to allow homebrew or 3rd party you might get some more options. Like I am currently playing a Warforged Warsmith Artificer using the Revised Artificer homebrew someone put out, another character is playing another Artificer archetype and the two characters are rather different. It is a great class and probably a lot better than the official Artificer whenever that finally gets finalized. Speaking of Mearls has been claiming it would be coming out to another UA again soon, for months.
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Ryuujin posted:Is the mistake that you aren't an Ancients Paladin for crazy anti-magic stuff at 7th level? Since this is a WDH HB and only level 1-5, I'm going to go with no.
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ProfessorCirno posted:The party mistake is that you have four players and not zero. Yeah, start at zero, non-plus so it stays at zero, go play in a better campaign
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Toshimo posted:If we get to the next page without someone spotting the problem with that party list, I'm gonna be heckin' mad, tho. I thought Weapon Master Paladin needn't even be addressed but it seems to actually be going right over everyone's heads.
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Stories like these makes me glad that my GM is just an alcoholic. What you lose in coherence, you gain from returning their bottles for money.  Does 5th edition have some sort of minion rules? Last week we our 4th lvl party faced 12 regular zombies, which was mainly tedious work and no challenge. GM kept rolling each zombie one by one.. 22hp tracked individually, death saves and stuff. Most of them on web area? Roll individually... Any good rules or houserules for situations like that?
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RC Cola posted:Our level 1 encounters with 3 level 1 PCs. Now, again, the CR rules are trash. Nevertheless, if this guy had done his job he would've used them and discovered that for this party, 300 xp is considered Deadly. These encounters are, respectively, 900 xp, 2000 xp, and 900 xp again. Even if the the system isn't accurate, when the formula spits out "2000 xp", you should really stop and re-examine what you're doing.
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The way I've house ruled damage in my most recent game is for every multiple of your CON in negative damage you took that counts as one failed death check. So CON 12 , reduced to -13. Start rolling as usual but with one failed death check 'marked off' So CON12, reduced to -24. As above with two checks failed, one more failure will kill you. So CON 12, reduced to -36. Instantly dead. Of course this all became academic the moment the party cleric learnt revivify.
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Sage Genesis posted:Now, again, the CR rules are trash. Nevertheless, if this guy had done his job he would've used them and discovered that for this party, 300 xp is considered Deadly. Update. 'died' inside the worm. The DM forced me to not be dead. So now I have 1 eye and am covered head to toe in deadpool burns. So now I'm gonna figure out the mental state of my fresh level 2 paladin.
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Conspiratiorist posted:I thought Weapon Master Paladin needn't even be addressed but it seems to actually be going right over everyone's heads. That's a bingo. "I wanted the extra Strength." (now has 15 STR)
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adhuin posted:Does 5th edition have some sort of minion rules? Last week we our 4th lvl party faced 12 regular zombies, which was mainly tedious work and no challenge. The official way is in the DMG under the combat chapter. It sucks. It's just for fudging attack rolls based on the number of attackers vs 1 defender. Doesn't help with tracking HP or saves for a ton of things. So don't do that. Another way is narratively. "There's a bigass swarm of zombies, what do you do?" Don't actually go into combat but go around the table and get generic actions, maybe roll a few dice, maybe dock them a hit die to represent the spent effort if things go badly. If they flee maybe do a chase scene with a few skill checks to get away. If you really want to run that sort of fight I would probably make it a swarm. Take the swarm of rats from the back of the MM as an example. Make it 5x5 grid size and call it a fuckload of zombies. Go to the quick stats table in the DMG, give it the generic HP and damage of a CR4 since you were level 4. Note the special stuff swarms get (HP are lower but will feel high thanks to resistance. damage starts above the range but is halved at 1/2 HP). Done. 60HP, AC14, resists all weapon damage, immune to most conditions Action: Brains! +5 to hit, 10d6 damage. Halve to 5d6 damage when the swarm reaches half HP. Swarm: can occupy another's space, can move through any opening large enough for a single zombie, blah blah
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Toshimo posted:Not gonna happen. 
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This sounds like a Good and Fun DM. Too bad you’re just a filthy casual who doesn’t see the GENIUS of his DM’ing style.
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ritorix posted:The official way is in the DMG under the combat chapter. It sucks. It's just for fudging attack rolls based on the number of attackers vs 1 defender. Doesn't help with tracking HP or saves for a ton of things. So don't do that. that's one mean TPK machine. None of the party members have enough HP to take a single average hit from that and Wizard and Warlock would have good change to be Instakilled by a single attack! I mean, it probably don't hit the plate/shield guys, but if it does? Down they go.
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Yeah loving hell, I'd lower that to 4d6 at most, enough to do damage but not enough to insta-gib. I'd also put in a home rule that swarms can't crit, but this doesn't matter much if you don't openly roll your dice anyway. As for minion stuff, saw a post recently and I know reddit blah-blah Colville blah-blah. It's overall good stuff, gives a decent framework, and emphasizes customizing minions to what you need. They all have 1 HP, but the threat they pose varies. https://old.reddit.com/r/mattcolville/comments/9st2ns/manual_of_merciless_mooks_and_minions/
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Curious how you folks would resolve this: Campaign of 4 people, out of game friends for decades. One guy (player A) has a pretty miserable life and I always insist he play with us to use escapism as stress relief At the same time he's always been the type of player who insists on having an individual conversation with every npc we ever meet. We know this and are ok with it for the most part even though im a notoriously impatient player Lately he's gotten worse and worse, and despite us talking to him out of game, the DM talking to him out of game it isn't making things better. We're near the point where we want to kick his character out of the party but there would be in game repercussions for that plus more importantly it would destroy him mentally How do you best go about keeping a party member from going off the rails surreptitiously? Again, personal life is in shambles so I want things to work out but resentment is building up
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Sounds like ultimatum time. As always, continue to deal with player issues OOC. Not much else you can do. If you’re looking for ways to convince him of the problem, you could try using a timer to quantify the issue or otherwise showing him the unequal distribution of talk time in the group. I tell my groups that for n players each person should feel as though they’re getting 1/n of the attention but it sounds like you’ve already spoken to him at length.
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Kaysette posted:Sounds like ultimatum time. As always, continue to deal with player issues OOC. Not much else you can do. If you’re looking for ways to convince him of the problem, you could try using a timer to quantify the issue or otherwise showing him the unequal distribution of talk time in the group. I tell my groups that for n players each person should feel as though they’re getting 1/n of the attention but it sounds like you’ve already spoken to him at length. Timer is a great idea. DM spoke with him a few weeks ago about how we only have time for so many side plots vs main plots. He took that as our main plot must be made subservient to his side plots so he can do both at once, which obviously isn't what any reasonable person would think. So yeah I'll time his "ok I go off alone to talk to npcs" time and figure that out over the course of a few sessions , should help a lot
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Toshimo posted:Not gonna happen. I take it from this tale I should use Point-Buy for my game
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Point buy or standard array. Rolling dice is dumb and lame and we should remove it from the game entirely imo.
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frajaq posted:I take it from this tale I should use Point-Buy for my game It's not a huge deal but even Adventurer's League allows standard array or point buy. It's definitely not broken or OP. Don't roll for stats. e: beaten like a cr0 shitposter
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