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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Angepain posted:

I shave my beard by getting a nice lady to zap tiny areas hair-by-hair with electricity for an hour a week. It'll only take about a year probably and then I'll have literally the smoothest shave physically possible. Uh, maybe not the best option for the fashionable man about town though.
There's also IPL for that, and if you have dark hair you can do your own IPL with a big camera flash (do not do this).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt5tnY_c09k

feedmegin posted:

That's not a Nazi flag, it's an Imperial German war flag. Which is, obviously, used by the far right over there as a proxy, but it is theoretically possible the guy waving it really just wants the Kaiser back :shobon:
love too be a english patriot standing next to a Reichskriegsflagge near Armistice Day. Wear your poppy with pride Tommy.

e: 'ksake, again
There are seven suicides mentioned throughout the Old and New Testaments, ranging from the shameful (Ahithophel) to the self-sacrificial (Samson).

Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Nov 1, 2018

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feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

didn't Hitler also want the Kaiser back

Well that would make the Kaiser his boss so, um, no?! The whole traditional-monarchist-authoritarian versus upstart-nazi-authoritarian divide in the Nazi state is its own interesting thing. Like, the Stauffenberg Plot wasn't exactly looking to bring back democracy, y'know.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

OwlFancier posted:

If nazis fly it does it not become a nazi flag?

Right, and if some Strasserist Nazi decides to fly a red flag because he's a national socialist, the red flag is now a nazi flag?

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo
why don't you people wear forget-me-nots instead



they're very cute :3:

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I mean if the strasserists outnumber everyone else using the red flag by a large margin, probably?

Who else flies imperial german flags other than nazis?

Same with apartheid era national flags.

Like sure they have other historical uses but at present they are very clearly nazi flags.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
All flags flown by Nazis become Nazi flags for the duration of them being flown by Nazis.

That's how you get around the "but the Hindus are allowed to hang up swastikas around Diwali and nobody calls them racist :qq:" arguments.

And also how you get around them just adopting a new old symbol whenever the one they like gets too tainted, until they're flying the GDR Postal Service flag at fash rallies.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Guavanaut posted:

All flags flown by Nazis become Nazi flags for the duration of them being flown by Nazis.

That's how you get around the "but the Hindus are allowed to hang up swastikas around Diwali and nobody calls them racist :qq:" arguments.

Also, the castle at Disneyland was technically a Nazi fortress until Walt died

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Similarly the st george cross is probably at least 50% nazi.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

feedmegin posted:

Right, and if some Strasserist Nazi decides to fly a red flag because he's a national socialist, the red flag is now a nazi flag?
if they're the only people flying them and nobody is interested in taking it back, it becomes that, yes.

TheHoodedClaw
Jul 26, 2008

I'm lucky as gently caress that even as I embark on my sixth decade, my beard grows incredible slowly until about day six where it goes haywire. So i only really need to shave once a week. What does come through is like steel wool though, so a single-blade Bic disposable and a steady hand is required. Also, modern shaving foams are like loving magic compared to the lovely soaps of yore.

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass

Guavanaut posted:

There's also IPL for that, and if you have dark hair you can do your own IPL with a big camera flash (do not do this).

I actually have a proper IPL raygun and it specifically says not to use it on your face (eyebrows are fine but not beards apparently? No idea why :shrug:)

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Failed Imagineer posted:

Also, the castle at Disneyland was technically a Nazi fortress until Walt died
And for a few decades after until the freezer broke.

OwlFancier posted:

Similarly the st george cross is probably at least 50% nazi.
Googled St George Cross and in the top row of results was


Now that's possibly because google thinks I'm looking for fash events in my area (I sometimes am, but not because I support them), but it's definitely in ruined iconography territory.

Also that whole mess with Emily Thornberry getting sacked for posting "Image from #Rochester" with a van and some flags, on her twitter filled with such sneering elitist bile as a picture of a church with "St Margaret's Church" written above it showed that the same people who go on about the flag not being racist are the exact people who assume that everything containing the flag posted by 'not them' is an incitement to or accusation of racism.

So yeah, bin it.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

It's not even a very good flag, it looks good on a tabard or a shield but it's a poo poo flag.

The ancom flag on the other hand looks dank on basically anything.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends
I just used the phrase "chronological shitstorm" when talking to my brother about the absolute state of Facebook's feed algorithm. I'm also much better have binned off about 20 "friends" last night

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Guavanaut posted:

There's also IPL for that, and if you have dark hair you can do your own IPL with a big camera flash (do not do this).

My hair is pretty variable there, sadly. There's also a tradeoff where laser and IPL aren't actually completely permanent. They can permanently reduce the amount of hair but you still need top-ups every now and then apparently. A common strategy is to laser off what you can and then electro-zap whatever's left. Note however that the procedure is not in fact called electro-zapping, which is another downside. It also hurts like a bastard, turns out.

OwlFancier posted:

It's not even a very good flag, it looks good on a tabard or a shield but it's a poo poo flag.

Crusaders have the ugliest goddamn military uniform ever, imo. What were they thinking.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
so she has resigned over the fixed odds betting terminals having their maximum bets delayed. The delay only happened because jeremy wright got made culture secretary after it had all been agreed and decided to do so after meeting gambling company bosses lol

https://twitter.com/ChrisMasonBBC/status/1058047075349348352

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Angepain posted:

My hair is pretty variable there, sadly. There's also a tradeoff where laser and IPL aren't actually completely permanent. They can permanently reduce the amount of hair but you still need top-ups every now and then apparently. A common strategy is to laser off what you can and then electro-zap whatever's left. Note however that the procedure is not in fact called electro-zapping, which is another downside. It also hurts like a bastard, turns out.
Calling it electrolysis is deceptive too. Although it'd be cool if it worked like electrolysis and the hair left one electrode and attached itself to the other. I'd plate everything with hair.

Angepain posted:

Crusaders have the ugliest goddamn military uniform ever, imo. What were they thinking.
"How can I make fat balding fascists look like even more of a tit in a few centuries?"

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.
On beard/not beard chat- my beard was hella scrappy/patchy the first year or two but it's settled in and I hope in a few years that I will be rocking a full Bakunin. Well. Or at least have the ability. The bigger it gets, the more random things end up in it/gets caught on things.

Phillips brand shavers/trimmers have always done me well- easy to use and maintain- they can be sharpened/blade swapped or have the motors swapped easily.


Guinan fought in both world wars is now in my head cannon for tng now

Spuckuk
Aug 11, 2009

Being a bastard works



The DPRK posted:

Can we briefly dip in to shavechat? My dermatologist recommends I try a dry electric shaver because wet shaving with a blade is irritating my skin too much. I'm awash in a sea of possibilities and I have no idea what the difference is between a £300 Remington and a £30 Remington.

e: 6 is how old I look after a shave

Might not help, but I stopped getting skin irritation and ingrown hairs by moving from multi blade disposables to a decent safety razor, brush and soap, and it's by far the most economical way to shave. YMMV.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

I just used the phrase "chronological shitstorm" when talking to my brother about the absolute state of Facebook's feed algorithm. I'm also much better have binned off about 20 "friends" last night

Good on you mate, hope you're doing alright.

TheHoodedClaw
Jul 26, 2008

Jose posted:

so she has resigned over the fixed odds betting terminals having their maximum bets delayed. The delay only happened because jeremy wright got made culture secretary after it had all been agreed and decided to do so after meeting gambling company bosses lol

https://twitter.com/ChrisMasonBBC/status/1058047075349348352

As these things go - what with the parliamentary formality etc - this is an utterly furious resignation letter

https://twitter.com/tracey_crouch/status/1058053597399789568

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/Curious_Chak/status/1058060474787487746

Surprise Giraffe
Apr 30, 2007
1 Lunar Road
Moon crater
The Moon

Not sure what the point was supporting these cuts frankly. Seem an odd thing to be manoeuvering over.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Largely because they're irrelevant to Labour's actual tax plans that they've been planning since 2017, which involve the new 45p top rate.

Nudging around the margins on the other bands is neither here nor there.

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
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I AM THERESA MAY


e: nm, misunderstood

vvv drat you fast refreshers :argh:

Borrovan fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Nov 1, 2018

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Borrovan posted:

It says right there in the tweet, to oppose poverty! In higher rate tax payers!

No Labour as a whole is voting for the tax cuts (I assume given that they said they aren't rolling them back)

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

TBH the increase in the personal allowance is probably good because you shouldn't really be thinking about tax at that point and you're contributing a pittance anyway. The upper rate band increase is a bit dodgy but that's still not where the bulk of the actual wealth disparity is.

And the way the personal allowance works it has absolutely no effect over about £125k anyway because they take it off you once you earn more than that. So if anything I'd support raising the personal allowance even further.

The intended function of the cuts of course is as a sop to the comparatively large contingent of £100k or so people who probably all vote tory, as opposed to the bazillionaires who obviously vote tory but don't comprise a very large number of people.

But it can be that and also not really much of a problem for Labour in the future. It taking a bit longer to get into the 40% bracket is a bit meaningless when they're planning to tax the majority of stuff above that at 45%.

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 20:01 on Nov 1, 2018

mehall
Aug 27, 2010


OwlFancier posted:

TBH the increase in the personal allowance is probably good because you shouldn't really be thinking about tax at that point and you're contributing a pittance anyway. The upper rate band increase is a bit dodgy but that's still not where the bulk of the actual wealth disparity is.

And the way the personal allowance works it has absolutely no effect over about £125k anyway because they take it off you once you earn more than that. So if anything I'd support raising the personal allowance even further.

The intended function of the cuts of course is as a sop to the comparatively large contingent of £100k or so people who probably all vote tory, as opposed to the bazillionaires who obviously vote tory but don't comprise a very large number of people.

But it can be that and also not really much of a problem for Labour in the future.

I don't get why we have a minimum wage, or a "living wage" for over 25's according to the government, that is the minimum someone on full time wage needs to live, and then any of that is taxed.
The current "living wage" works out at 35 hours a week as a touch over £14,250, and as far as I'm concerned that should be the personal allowance, moving in line with any living wage increases.

Then get rid of the difference between over 16, over 18, and over 25 wages, a job is a job (thankfully most employers I had beyond my first job were fair to everyone. I guess it was less admin having a single amount to multiply by)

Then have decent tax bandings.
15 on anything above personal allowance to 20k, 20% up to 30k, then re-instate the 50p tax band on anything above 50k and have a nice and lovely 70p tax band on anything above 100k.

Work out what that brings in to the coffers, and if you need any more (other than corporate taxes etc) then add in a tax exclusively on bonuses where the bonus itself is in excess of the personal allowance.





Of course, I'd have a bunch of new policies like re-nationalising anything where a natural monopoly is present, most anything that presents a public good, and nationalising Wetherspoons and re-branding them as British Restaurants

Somebody fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Nov 1, 2018

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

mehall posted:

I don't get why we have a minimum wage, or a "living wage" for over 25's according to the government, that is the minimum someone on full time wage needs to live, and then any of that is taxed.
The current "living wage" works out at 35 hours a week as a touch over £14,250, and as far as I'm concerned that should be the personal allowance, moving in line with any living wage increases.

Then get rid of the difference between over 16, over 18, and over 25 wages, a job is a job (thankfully most employers I had beyond my first job were fair to everyone. I guess it was less admin having a single amount to multiply by)

Then have decent tax bandings.
15 on anything above personal allowance to 20k, 20% up to 30k, then re-instate the 50p tax band on anything above 50k and have a nice and lovely 70p tax band on anything above 100k.

Work out what that brings in to the coffers, and if you need any more (other than corporate taxes etc) then add in a tax exclusively on bonuses where the bonus itself is in excess of the personal allowance.





Of course, I'd have a bunch of new policies like re-nationalising anything where a natural monopoly is present, most anything that presents a public good, and nationalising Wetherspoons and re-branding them as British Restaurants

I would agree yes. It is profoundly incongruous to say that you need X amount to live and then also that you need to be taxed on amounts less than that amount. Especially, as noted, that the personal allowance goes away once you're rich.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

TheHoodedClaw posted:

As these things go - what with the parliamentary formality etc - this is an utterly furious resignation letter

https://twitter.com/tracey_crouch/status/1058053597399789568

She seems pretty good by Tory standards. Someone post her voting record so I can be angered and order is thus restored.

TheHoodedClaw
Jul 26, 2008

mehall posted:

The current "living wage" works out at 35 hours a week as a touch over £14,250, and as far as I'm concerned that should be the personal allowance, moving in line with any living wage increases.

Then get rid of the difference between over 16, over 18, and over 25 wages, a job is a job (thankfully most employers I had beyond my first job were fair to everyone. I guess it was less admin having a single amount to multiply by)

The current threshold is pitched roughly at 30 hours a week. It really should be 35 or 40 at minimum wage, and there shouldn't be different minimum wages because christ that's dumb.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
The only downside with raising the threshold is that it raises it for everyone (up to £100k or whatever) which lowers your tax take to benefit people that can afford it.

You could get around that with more bands though, or some wilder ideas like negative income tax or a means tested VAT exemption card or Universal Credit But Not Wank or Universal Basic Services like the NES or national fibre or something.

Someone on full time minimum wage probably shouldn't be paying income tax but if they pay £30 a year it's not the end of the world as long as they have good services, that's more important.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


Rarity posted:

She seems pretty good by Tory standards. Someone post her voting record so I can be angered and order is thus restored.

Well...Generally voted against laws to promote equality and human rights

TheHoodedClaw
Jul 26, 2008

Guavanaut posted:

The only downside with raising the threshold is that it raises it for everyone (up to £100k or whatever) which lowers your tax take to benefit people that can afford it.

You could get around that with more bands though, or some wilder ideas like negative income tax or a means tested VAT exemption card or Universal Credit But Not Wank or Universal Basic Services like the NES or national fibre or something.

Someone on full time minimum wage probably shouldn't be paying income tax but if they pay £30 a year it's not the end of the world as long as they have good services, that's more important.

remove the upper limit on NI contributions?

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass

Spuckuk posted:

Might not help, but I stopped getting skin irritation and ingrown hairs by moving from multi blade disposables to a decent safety razor, brush and soap, and it's by far the most economical way to shave. YMMV.

It is, but what do you do with the old blades? Can't throw them away anywhere anymore, and not everyone has a sharps bin at work.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
That too, but NI is a whole other mess.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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So I am probably going to not be using SA for a little bit. I feel like I spend too much time online and it is locking in a lot of behaviours I don't like about myself.

Will still pop by every week or so but I hope you all have a good one and I hope to see you soon!

Lots of love
Josef.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Have a good time offline. Go outside and look at a tree, I hear those are offline.

TheHoodedClaw
Jul 26, 2008

Guavanaut posted:

That too, but NI is a whole other mess.

Yeah, it probably has outlived its usefulness as a separate thing, but as you say there's a lot of potential bear traps there. I don't recall having ever read a comprehensive reform proposal, even.

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Josef bugman posted:

So I am probably going to not be using SA for a little bit. I feel like I spend too much time online and it is locking in a lot of behaviours I don't like about myself.

Will still pop by every week or so but I hope you all have a good one and I hope to see you soon!

Lots of love
Josef.

Keep safe Josef, hope things get better for you and yes, being extremely online is rarely good for one's brain.

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