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Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

CBC is on a roll lately
https://twitter.com/cbcradio/status/1058161772274704385

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smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
this is so soothing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zeBIxI7n1I

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


The OSHA thread has been talking about horrible trainwrecks recently. I briefly thought I was there and kept bracing for the nice old man to suddenly die a horrible death via unplanned high-speed freight train interaction.

Forums Terrorist
Dec 8, 2011

that’s basically a pacer, it’s fine

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

Graphic posted:

being a western maoist is a form of appropriation that attempts to take the struggle of third world peasants that live on 10 cents a day and project it onto themselves because they can't accept that they live a comparatively bourgeois lifestyle even if they qualify as poor by first world standards. mao is awesome but allah didn't send him for our sake.

Owning western Maoists with... Third-Worldism

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Pablo Nergigante posted:

Owning western Maoists with... Third-Worldism

BDSM for labour aristocrats

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I've been a bad bad lumpenprole

Aeolius
Jul 16, 2003

Simon Templeman Fanclub

i recently remembered the Let's Read the Sword of Truth books thread

come for the trainwreck you sorta hazily remember from your teens, stay for the savage running commentary

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003
the problem with a lot of those maoist groups, and not just them but other groups as well, is that they have no grounding in the working class or labor organizing. if you spend time talking to some of them, you come away with the impression that no one is "working class" and that often they can only talk about workers in the abstract. so like a university adjunct isnt a worker, an AC repairman isnt a worker cause he makes $60k a year, etc. many of them will even outright say that there are no "workers" in the US as were all just paid off labor aristocracy. if you take that stance, you really destroy any and all hope of connecting with anyone around you on a material basis. its why they engage in ultra-left stuff like the severed pig heads and are dismissive of genuine workers movements. I had one tell me recently that the west virginia teachers strike was a waste because they were just striking for higher wages and not an end to capitalism. as if the entirety of the struggle for socialism isnt based around workers organizing and fighting for their own self-interest.

THS
Sep 15, 2017

you have to be halfway personable and likable, otherwise everyone’s going to think you’re a lame goober

being terminally unrelatable is bad praxis

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
https://twitter.com/cushbomb/status/823081796422291456

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
And the social democrat fallacy is that normies are bearded podcast listeners with autism

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


THS posted:

you have to be halfway personable and likable, otherwise everyone’s going to think you’re a lame goober

being terminally unrelatable is bad praxis

Yeah, the major dividing line between the serious and the unserious activist, whether they are willing to actually work on developing interpersonal communication skills. The internet, for instance, is bloated with self-styled socialists who have zero interest in actually talking to another human in any case, especially if they don't see eye to eye on all of their political perspectives. The idea that our task is to win over people to new, emancipatory political perspectives is lost on them.

That task, in practice, is not a glamorous one. But it is central to any possible success for the left.

Mia Wasikowska
Oct 7, 2006

might just be time to give these words a break: normie, tankie, fallacy

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Zas posted:

might just be time to give these words a break: normie, tankie, fallacy

nice normie fallacy, tankie

Mia Wasikowska
Oct 7, 2006

you know commissar of internet vernacular would be a cool job. or maybe that's just what a mod is, in which case maybe not

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003

Mr. Lobe posted:

Yeah, the major dividing line between the serious and the unserious activist, whether they are willing to actually work on developing interpersonal communication skills. The internet, for instance, is bloated with self-styled socialists who have zero interest in actually talking to another human in any case, especially if they don't see eye to eye on all of their political perspectives. The idea that our task is to win over people to new, emancipatory political perspectives is lost on them.

That task, in practice, is not a glamorous one. But it is central to any possible success for the left.

agreed but it goes deeper than a lack of interpersonal skills imo, it's rooted in a fundamental misunderstanding of marxism and what it means to be a marxist/socialist/communist

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003
not to keep on the derail, but I think its also telling that many of those groups seem to spring up in the south and southwest, places where theres low levels of labor organizing and low levels of political consciousness among workers. I think in those conditions it becomes easy for individuals to fall into ultra-left tendencies and approaches because there isnt a vibrant labor movement that can serve as a pole of attraction for people who are coming to revolutionary political conclusions on their own.

THS
Sep 15, 2017

this isnt really a derail

THS
Sep 15, 2017

if this isnt the thread to talk about tankies and socdems then i dont know what its for

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



I once had a conversation with some college Maoists and I asked them about things like third worldism and ruralist initiatives and expressed my skepticism as a communist that their violent neo Luddism was compatible with modern dialectics in the most basic sense and they accused me of being historically ignorant because of my bourgeois consciousness which is a pretty good burn

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


apropos to nothing posted:

agreed but it goes deeper than a lack of interpersonal skills imo, it's rooted in a fundamental misunderstanding of marxism and what it means to be a marxist/socialist/communist

Yeah, I should have been more clear, this is an ideological problem rather than a problem of having or lacking specific skill sets. It's not that they can't learn to communicate, it's that they don't have an ideological basis that would drive them to want to

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003

Mr. Lobe posted:

Yeah, I should have been more clear, this is an ideological problem rather than a problem of having or lacking specific skill sets. It's not that they can't learn to communicate, it's that they don't have an ideological basis that would drive them to want to

yeah

Enjoy
Apr 18, 2009

Kurnugia posted:

cant think of a take

ShriekingMarxist posted:

the tl;dr is that red scare is lady cumtown, and because they're funny/attractive/willing to write hall passes for lovely misogynist behavior and the r-word slur, which is the loving lynchpin of the dirtbag left chud culture for some inexplicable reason, they've all been cucked into white knighting them basically unironically whenever they're criticized and its really *really* funny

but choking girls is fun

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

The newest addition to The Gulag Archipelago has a foreword by Jordan Peterson

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Enjoy posted:

but choking girls is fun

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
it's always hilarious that the person who screams at everyone else for being a narcissist is an egolord that sincerely refers to themselves as a "raging christ figure" in a selfie where they're on a beach at night in black vinyl

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014



Ok Anna is good again

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

You guys post this basic podcast drama gossip poo poo and still think you are better than the Ohio Maoist book club. Jesus loving Christ.

Serf
May 5, 2011



lost boys remake looking bad

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Give me a a weirdo who believes in Lin Biao Thought and jacks off to the Shining Path dude's photograph before a hundred goons posting on the Chapo/Cum Town/Red Scare threads

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
nice meltdown

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

Plutonis posted:

Give me a a weirdo who believes in Lin Biao Thought and jacks off to the Shining Path dude's photograph before a hundred goons posting on the Chapo/Cum Town/Red Scare threads

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


Podcasts are praxis

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014



Go back to being a hillaryman instead of this pretend leftist poo poo, at least it was honest

Graphic
Sep 4, 2018

It's like Lenin said

Pablo Nergigante posted:

Owning western Maoists with... Third-Worldism

i'm a sri lankan rice farmer

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Frog Act posted:

I once had a conversation with some college Maoists and I asked them about things like third worldism and ruralist initiatives and expressed my skepticism as a communist that their violent neo Luddism was compatible with modern dialectics in the most basic sense and they accused me of being historically ignorant because of my bourgeois consciousness which is a pretty good burn
:hmmyes: yea i've gotta say they got you there bub

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Plutonis posted:

Give me a a weirdo who believes in Lin Biao Thought and jacks off to the Shining Path dude's photograph before a hundred goons posting on the Chapo/Cum Town/Red Scare threads

speaking of which, everyone saw that single photo of the entrance requirements for the Pol Pot subreddit, but not a peep about the content within

not a single person has strayed from Brother Number One?

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

Go back to being a hillaryman instead of this pretend leftist poo poo, at least it was honest

no

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Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


Has anybody made a pay your maids joke recently?

"Hey hey Whiskey J! How many maids did you pay today?"

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