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AG3 posted:I'm the weirdo who picks Espionage sometimes purely for RP reasons. I mean unless your playing MP picking the most efficient ideas isn’t really necessary
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Firebatgyro posted:Not picking Quantity first in Northern Italy is actually extremely right. You should definitely be picking diplo or influence first. The number of troops you have doesn't matter if you can only conquer 1 province every 20 years because of AE. lol if you aren't no-cbing granada at some point early on and picking exploration first as a non-OPM northern italian tag (the OPMs probably can't take granada before castile does)
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Oct 31, 2018 21:08
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Eh, so long as there's a free province to take an OPM can just slide in and take a province while Castile is siegeing the fort. Sometimes Castile leaves them as an OPM too, though I think that's less likely in this patch.
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Nov 1, 2018 04:13
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Is the English PU with France kinda overrated? I hosed up and took Paris directly instead of forcing the union then immediately attacked Scotland and let Savoy and France bleed each other out and now I have permanent claims on 2/3 of France (from the Brittany mission) while they've fallen out of great power status before 1480. I feel like I'd be juggling their liberty desire for the next 20+ years as a union but instead I can just sit back and collect taxes from their land while I mop up the British Isles to avoid getting coalitioned in mainland Europe, then turn around and eat France directly.
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Nov 1, 2018 04:26
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Cockblocktopus posted:Is the English PU with France kinda overrated? I hosed up and took Paris directly instead of forcing the union then immediately attacked Scotland and let Savoy and France bleed each other out and now I have permanent claims on 2/3 of France (from the Brittany mission) while they've fallen out of great power status before 1480. I feel like I'd be juggling their liberty desire for the next 20+ years as a union but instead I can just sit back and collect taxes from their land while I mop up the British Isles to avoid getting coalitioned in mainland Europe, then turn around and eat France directly. The PU is not "overrated" insofar as owning all of France and England means you've won the game. If you can own all of France a different way then go hog wild! Nothing matters once you have that amount of dev.
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Nov 1, 2018 04:33
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Keeping France loyal is pretty easy too. Max your relations, hire a dip rep adviser, keep your army and navy at force limit, keep your diplo and mil tech up to date, keep your prestige above zero, and of course support loyalists in France. Without the union you'd have to fight many long and bloody wars with France and their allies, and you'd have to spend admin points to core most of it. It's absolutely worth it.
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Nov 1, 2018 04:48
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Also means you get access to French Missions. Which gives you easy means of conquering into Italy.
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Nov 1, 2018 13:41
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Groogy posted:It's a joke Oh, my bad. I just took a look at the numbers of cannons the ships get and now it seems pretty obvious, but before that I wasn’t sure if the Spanish +30% would actually be better in the late game than a flat +100. Anyway add more unique things for other nations too please, thanks.
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Nov 1, 2018 14:38
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Fister Roboto posted:Keeping France loyal is pretty easy too. Max your relations, hire a dip rep adviser, keep your army and navy at force limit, keep your diplo and mil tech up to date, keep your prestige above zero, and of course support loyalists in France. Without the union you'd have to fight many long and bloody wars with France and their allies, and you'd have to spend admin points to core most of it. It's absolutely worth it. Yeah, this. When I got the PU over France in my Spanish game, I had a diplomat just living in France improving relations, as well as supporting loyalists. Going to war every couple of decades to pick up parts of Brittany or Savoy for them kept their liberty desire low as well. I became so large, so fast, I never got attacked. It made building up and expanding so much easier without having to worry about any of the other GP’s in Europe.
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Nov 1, 2018 15:58
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Blinks77 posted:Also means you get access to French Missions. Which gives you easy means of conquering into Italy. I had no idea this was a thing. I'm finishing my first UK run and while it was nicely strong (did all missions except those involving becoming HRE emperor), I could have used french missions. How do you access them?
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Nov 1, 2018 16:16
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Fister Roboto posted:
OK yeah there's something fucky going on with the way distances are being calculated in the NW Pacific. Here's the distance from Japan to the Kuril Islands:  And here's the distance to the adjacent sea zone:   Guess I'll head over to the bug report forum.
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Nov 1, 2018 16:32
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Might be a map cache issue?
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Nov 1, 2018 16:39
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Is the map cache even still a thing in modern Clausewitz? I couldn't find a folder for it. In any case, I deleted my map folder and revalidated, and the problem is still there. Also tried disabling all my mods just in case, still no luck 
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Nov 1, 2018 16:48
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I'm pretty sure it is, but not like it used to be. Seems to do some sort of caching with the map and flags and stuff though.
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Nov 1, 2018 17:18
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Koramei posted:Oh, my bad. I just took a look at the numbers of cannons the ships get and now it seems pretty obvious, but before that I wasn’t sure if the Spanish +30% would actually be better in the late game than a flat +100. Yeah, honestly I had no idea that +100 cannons was a lot, so the joke went right over my head.
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Nov 1, 2018 18:15
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Swedish Steel: +100 fire pips
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As Lithuania, is it best to hold off PU'ing Muscovy via mission until they form Russia? Reason being, they won't pick exploration normally, but as Russia they'll get Siberian frontier eventually, and better ideas/more claims. Also as Lithuania, how do you usurp HRE? I got Bohemia in a PU pretty much immediately but even with Brandenburg and Saxony allied/married/200 Relations I was always at least 40-50 below Austria in preference in their vote. Is it only through vassalizing? I must say it's fun to be in early 1500 with Hungary, Bohemia and Muscovy in a PU, and Sweden as vassal. RIP diplo points tho.
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Nov 2, 2018 06:08
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Once you've vassalized one elector its pretty much the case that you have to vandalize the rest to overcome the vassalised elector penalty, but you could also make Austria give up land until it loses the Large Nation In HRE boost.
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Sephyr posted:I had no idea this was a thing. I'm finishing my first UK run and while it was nicely strong (did all missions except those involving becoming HRE emperor), I could have used french missions. How do you access them? You can't actually see it in the game itself. However anytime a country fulfils the requirements the AI will get the rewards and move onto the next bit. So in the case of having a PU over France as the UK. If you give them Aquitaine, Labourd and Maine. They complete "reconquer Gascony" and France gains permanent claims over Provence and Loire while now having the next mission open. This works for any AI country of course. Enemies, Allies, Vassals and whatever. Blinks77 fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Nov 2, 2018 |
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Nov 2, 2018 15:19
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Is +100 cannons going to turn into EU4's Sunset Invasion?
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White Coke posted:Is +100 cannons going to turn into EU4's Sunset Invasion? Making light of the swedes is expected and fine and based either ironically or not in PDIs home location. 90% of SIs immediate angry reaction was racism.
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Ok, trade gurus: I'm playing as Custom Shiite South African Mamluks and capped the cape early, with everything colonized that the most likely thing to happen is Spain colonizing from the other side. Should I be collecting in the Cape or in Zanzibar like the old days? I'm taking over more of the Malaccas and Moluccas right now, but they feed directly there. I'm also allied to Yemen and next war I'll be eating up most of the Ethopians. I have nothing in India, yet (though I should be eating into Viji right?) Also trying to beat the other colonizers is impossible for the south: I just barely managed to take Brazil via having my Brazil declare with my claim the moment that the colonies became large enough and screw trying to do that with the huge Spanish ones. Is there as of yet no fix for them endlessly just improving their capital? I know I gave my Australia mad money from the start and they're now colonizing twice the cheeky buggers.
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Nov 3, 2018 01:45
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the colonial nations just improving their capital with their colonist endlessly can't be working as intended. it pretty much forces you to go all or nothing with exploration/expansion if you don't get an extra colonist from national ideas
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Zikan posted:the colonial nations just improving their capital with their colonist endlessly can't be working as intended. it pretty much forces you to go all or nothing with exploration/expansion if you don't get an extra colonist from national ideas Yeah, what is weird is that my Viji colonial nation in New Zealand is improving in their capital province, which has high development and is mountainous, so the chance of an increase is lower than some of their other coastal plains provinces. There are still plenty of moderately high development provinces in the colonial area for them to take advantage of, and it would surely be the better fiscal decision for them.
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Deceitful Penguin posted:Ok, trade gurus: I'm playing as Custom Shiite South African Mamluks and capped the cape early, with everything colonized that the most likely thing to happen is Spain colonizing from the other side. Definitely Zanzibar. If you control all of Cape, then nobody else will be able to project power upstream to Zanzibar so you'll be able to collect 100% of the trade value there.
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Fister Roboto posted:Definitely Zanzibar. If you control all of Cape, then nobody else will be able to project power upstream to Zanzibar so you'll be able to collect 100% of the trade value there. I guess I could conquer the bottom of India and maybe force some of the Gulf of Aden people to give me all theit trade power and steering?
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What causes your army to sometimes retreat one province away? I know that if you're deep enough into enemy territory that can happen, but I've twice recently had it where I was one province in, lost a battle and retreated one province deeper into enemy territory and got wiped. In one of the cases, I was Milan in 1450 sieging Treviso from Venice after having occupied Verona. Venetian Orthodox rebels somehow appeared in Treviso(??) and becamse the defenders because the fort mechanics are still somehow stupid like that and my army retreated to verona. Seeing this, the much smaller venetian army attacked me there before I regained enough morale to move, but. I guess they were small enough that my army didn't wipe. So it retreated back to Treviso and was wiped by the rebels. Amazing. feller fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Nov 3, 2018 |
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Playing as Japan, it's 1600 and I stupidly didn't become a Ming tributary before I turned GP, so now all expansion (outside the new world, where I'm happily colonizing) is pretty much blocked and I need to find a way to conquer the little islands and Korea. Is there a good way to muscle in on Ming without getting my teeth kicked in? I could, with enough time and money, build a superior navy. If I declare war on a tributary and Ming joins in, will this provoke them to try to invade Japan proper so I can beat them with home turf advantage? They've landed invasions before and I defeated those no problem, but those were offensive wars on their part.
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Guildencrantz posted:Playing as Japan, it's 1600 and I stupidly didn't become a Ming tributary before I turned GP, so now all expansion (outside the new world, where I'm happily colonizing) is pretty much blocked and I need to find a way to conquer the little islands and Korea. Is there a good way to muscle in on Ming without getting my teeth kicked in? If you don't own any provinces that Ming can reach without crossing a strait and you can get naval dominance, then declare on Ming with some kind of trade CB, blockade them until they will give you tons of cash, then declare on as many of their tributaries as you like and peace out Ming so you don't actually have to fight their armies.
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Jesus, that's brilliant. Time to raise diplo tech and expand the hell out of the IJN.
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Guildencrantz posted:Playing as Japan, it's 1600 and I stupidly didn't become a Ming tributary before I turned GP, so now all expansion (outside the new world, where I'm happily colonizing) is pretty much blocked and I need to find a way to conquer the little islands and Korea. Is there a good way to muscle in on Ming without getting my teeth kicked in? If you're a Japan GP Ming should be your personal ATM. Do what Rabidweasel posted but don't stop there, declare war on day one the truce timer is up, get more money, repeat.
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Guildencrantz posted:Playing as Japan, it's 1600 and I stupidly didn't become a Ming tributary before I turned GP, so now all expansion (outside the new world, where I'm happily colonizing) is pretty much blocked and I need to find a way to conquer the little islands and Korea. Is there a good way to muscle in on Ming without getting my teeth kicked in? Ming are pushovers. Just declare war on one of their tributaries with an ally or two while Ming is busy somewhere else, fully occupy the tributary before Ming arrives, then blockade a few ports and and Ming will want out of the war. Ming shares warscore with their tributaries which means you don't really need to fully invade them or anything. At most you may have to engage in some diversionary tactics and try to take down a fort or two of theirs, but I often find that's unnecessary and only do that when I want further concessions.
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If you have a border with Ming, their mandate will crater. At 0, all of their troops will take 50% more damage in combat, which makes them a complete pushover. If you want to get rid of Ming permanently, you can try causing a Mingsplosion. Declare war on them, roll over their armies, and occupy their poo poo until they have 20 war exhaustion and rebels start popping. Then sign a white peace and watch the rebels go to town.
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Fister Roboto posted:If you have a border with Ming, their mandate will crater. At 0, all of their troops will take 50% more damage in combat, which makes them a complete pushover. If you want to get rid of Ming permanently, you can try causing a Mingsplosion. Declare war on them, roll over their armies, and occupy their poo poo until they have 20 war exhaustion and rebels start popping. Then sign a white peace and watch the rebels go to town. Does it have to be a white peace? Why not snag some freebies if the war has gone so well?
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Sephyr posted:Does it have to be a white peace? Why not snag some freebies if the war has gone so well? When a nation loses a war, they get buffs that let them bounce back more easily. White peace denies them that since it's not losing. The goal here is to cause maximum damage rather than snag a few territories
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The higher the war score cost of the peace deal the higher reduction in war exhaustion the loser receives. So, if you put them up to 20 WE and white peace out, they keep the 20 WE, and this can cause naturally unstable empires like the Timurids to be much more likely to explode. Adding a few things will increase the war score cost and reduce their WE.
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You'll also be able to take land much quicker once Ming does explode, so it's worth the wait.
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Kaza42 posted:When a nation loses a war, they get buffs that let them bounce back more easily. White peace denies them that since it's not losing. The goal here is to cause maximum damage rather than snag a few territories these buffs are called "revanchism" if you want to look up the specifics on the wiki
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 Sorted on manpower and was quite surprised to see Lan Na doing so well!
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I'm not sure the land border with Ming would work for Japan specifically. According to the wiki, the non-tributary mandate penalty is applied by development, but only from provinces that have a land route to China. Which Japan proper of course doesn't have. Once you eat Korea that's be a good amount of dev, but probably not enough to push mandate gain into the negative in an otherwise stable and prosperous Ming. My current plan is to use the vast wealth I've extorted from Ming via piracy (thanks for that tip!) to fortify the everliving gently caress out of my Korean holdings, then make Ming bleed out on that border while blockading their ports until they eat massive WE. Guildencrantz fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Nov 3, 2018 |
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