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Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

Fuckin lmao

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/JeremySWallace/status/1058526310455218177

He shook

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




Anecdotal evidence, but a couple of the gius behind me in the line were talking about voting and stuff. One said it was his first time voting in a midterm and the other said it was his first time voting ever.

The LV models are way off this go-round

Loel
Jun 4, 2012

"For the Emperor."

There was a terrible noise.
There was a terrible silence.



Last election I was the only voter in my circle of friends. This year, all of em (+8) have already voted, even a first time ever voter. Been really interesting to watch.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

my friend group made a drat facebook event to go vote together. that's never, ever happened

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

I had an accelerationist acquaintance in 2016 who argued that Trump should be elected because it would expose how awful the GOP truly was and lead to a blue wave in 2018 and 2020. He was a dumbass and the damage Trump has done and will continue to do is not worth it, but the silver lining is looking to be that he was right about the blue wave part. I hope.

Loel
Jun 4, 2012

"For the Emperor."

There was a terrible noise.
There was a terrible silence.



Certainly got the DSA/bernie wing frothing. Let's hope it works.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

my bony fealty posted:

I had an accelerationist acquaintance in 2016 who argued that Trump should be elected because it would expose how awful the GOP truly was and lead to a blue wave in 2018 and 2020. He was a dumbass and the damage Trump has done and will continue to do is not worth it, but the silver lining is looking to be that he was right about the blue wave part. I hope.

yeah what the gop has done to the judiciary is going to last for decades

no amount of accelerationism is worth that unless the dems get serious and pack the courts

JosefStalinator
Oct 9, 2007

Come Tbilisi if you want to live.




Grimey Drawer

my bony fealty posted:

I had an accelerationist acquaintance in 2016 who argued that Trump should be elected because it would expose how awful the GOP truly was and lead to a blue wave in 2018 and 2020. He was a dumbass and the damage Trump has done and will continue to do is not worth it, but the silver lining is looking to be that he was right about the blue wave part. I hope.

Every accelerationist I know is a rich white dude, because for them, accelerationism is a win/win.

yellowyams
Jan 15, 2011
Maybe I'm just an idiot who has no idea what they're talking about, but I think we were screwed no matter which way the election went. We still would have had a Republican congress even if Clinton won and they would have blocked her every step of the way (except when their interests aligned which would alienate the progressive voters even more), including any SC nominees, meanwhile dissatisfaction with Dems would continue to rise while Reps would still be considered the opposition party who didn't have that pressure to deliver and they would probably gain even more congressional seats in '18 and then ride the resentment from the economy correcting itself into 2020 with a more competent Trump-like figure and all of this would happen anyway, just later and with an extra 4 years of stagnation and disillusioned voters inbetween. To me, it really feels like we've been doomed since the 2000 election went to Bush, maybe I'm wrong. I guess if the Obama administration had been better at punishing and correcting the previous administration's mistakes then things might be different but that's not what happened.

FBS
Apr 27, 2015

The real fun of living wisely is that you get to be smug about it.

The tiny optimist inside me is grateful that Trump won when he did, sparing us from a more competent monster, and holds out hope that the country will emerge from 2020 healthier and more politically sober and will shake off the worst of the fascist fringe impulses for another decade or two.

The giant roaring nihilist that is inside the rest of me is pretty sure the United States is beyond hope and that my life will be spent riding out the collapse.

zonohedron
Aug 14, 2006


yellowyams posted:

Maybe I'm just an idiot who has no idea what they're talking about, but I think we were screwed no matter which way the election went. We still would have had a Republican congress even if Clinton won and they would have blocked her every step of the way (except when their interests aligned which would alienate the progressive voters even more), including any SC nominees, meanwhile dissatisfaction with Dems would continue to rise while Reps would still be considered the opposition party who didn't have that pressure to deliver and they would probably gain even more congressional seats in '18 and then ride the resentment from the economy correcting itself into 2020 with a more competent Trump-like figure and all of this would happen anyway, just later and with an extra 4 years of stagnation and disillusioned voters inbetween. To me, it really feels like we've been doomed since the 2000 election went to Bush, maybe I'm wrong. I guess if the Obama administration had been better at punishing and correcting the previous administration's mistakes then things might be different but that's not what happened.

I heard an interesting interview on NPR which suggests the doom started with Newt Gingrich. After Watergate, the Republicans in congress had mostly resigned themselves to being a minority for a generation, focusing on civility and working to shift things incrementally rightward (hey, does that description sound familiar....?), and then Newt Gingrich started not only framing every single bill as an epic battle between Good and Democrats, but also sending like-minded politicians and candidates cassette tapes with instructions on what to say in speeches. The 'Contract With America' Republicans actually accomplished most of what they said they were going to do in the first hundred days (not that most of it became law - it died in the Senate or was vetoed by Bill Clinton) but then they didn't know what to do after that, except oppose Democrats, because they'd gotten good at that while the minority.

I don't know that you're wrong about what two years of "Hillary can't accomplish anything! She lets Republicans walk all over her! SETH RICH SETH RICH COMET PIZZA BENGHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZI" would have been like. I expect that we'd have seen the mail bombs and the Nazi and quasi-Nazi and Nazi-adjacent rallies, too, probably even before the inauguration, and while it would have been better not to have had POTUS tacitly encouraging them, being unable to stop them wouldn't have looked great. There wouldn't have been a Women's March or the motivation to get Republicans out, and any investigation into Russian interference would have looked like petty partisan politics, so instead of early voting already exceeding 2014's total turnout, we'd all be posting "yeah I saw two other people voting and I dropped the average age by twenty years" instead of "wtf I had to wait forty-five minutes at ten am on a weekday".

FBS posted:

The tiny optimist inside me is grateful that Trump won when he did, sparing us from a more competent monster, and holds out hope that the country will emerge from 2020 healthier and more politically sober and will shake off the worst of the fascist fringe impulses for another decade or two.

Yeah. A more competent monster, who could point to Madam President being useless? Plus continued active Russian interference? (Would Facebook have had a "are we the baddies?" moment if Trump hadn't won?) That would have been horrendous.

On the other hand...

FBS posted:

The giant roaring nihilist that is inside the rest of me is pretty sure the United States is beyond hope and that my life will be spent riding out the collapse.

:smith::hf::smith:

SimonChris
Apr 24, 2008

The Baron's daughter is missing, and you are the man to find her. No problem. With your inexhaustible arsenal of hard-boiled similes, there is nothing you can't handle.
Grimey Drawer
https://twitter.com/ChangePolls/status/1058740322530820097

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Rough year for the Libertarians

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

Change research is slightly biased towards dems. But 538 has adjusted poll at cruz + 1.6 or something. It seems really close.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
trae!

https://twitter.com/BetoORourke/status/1058757555089039360

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5UV2G2L1tE

Waffle House
Oct 27, 2004

You follow the path
fitting into an infinite pattern.

Yours to manipulate, to destroy and rebuild.

Now, in the quantum moment
before the closure
when all become one.

One moment left.
One point of space and time.

I know who you are.

You are Destiny.


who on earth would defend the honor of Ted Cruz

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Waffle House posted:

who on earth would defend the honor of Ted Cruz

definitely not ted cruz lol

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/712457104515317764



:sad:

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

Block walked in Collin County. Beautiful day so half the houses weren't home. Decent number of Beto signs and a lot of people already early voted for Beto. One chud lady. All in all, a good time! I should try again tomorrow.

Sardonik
Jul 1, 2005

if you like my dumb posts, you'll love my dumb youtube channel
"we are not talking today my dude" might be the best out and out refusal line I've gotten yet

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Zwabu posted:

Block walked in Collin County. Beautiful day so half the houses weren't home. Decent number of Beto signs and a lot of people already early voted for Beto. One chud lady. All in all, a good time! I should try again tomorrow.

:respek:

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

Also, out of ten or a dozen volunteers for our block walk shift, at least eighty percent or so were first time volunteers like me. That tells me something.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/Tcolesdad/status/1058756931140182016
Beto is also in Dallas right now

:thunk:

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
Wait

Something's up

https://twitter.com/BetoORourke/status/1058833163382898689
Good Records

Dallas

Yeezy

Saturday

Beto

Yeezy

Good Records

Dallas

Beto

Saturday

:thunk::thunk::thunk:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5dmxBUbzBU

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isk
Oct 3, 2007

You don't want me owing you
I mean, Kanye IS wearing blue

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
this girl gets it

https://twitter.com/DlSCOMPOSURE/status/1058811824026587136

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
Bet Travis Scott will be there too

https://twitter.com/NovaMexican/status/1056672552683294721
Also Scott has a way of making Houston look like Blade Runner (or, more so than it already does)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ONRf7h3Mdk&t=65s

BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 23:30 on Nov 3, 2018

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005

So is Beto a MAGA chud if Yeezy endorses him? :thunk:

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
Dammit now I'm tracking down the Tuesday Morning he was spotted at and comparing it to a map of Beto pop-up offices, like a paparazzi

There is one nearby at a business complex

He was likely eating breakfast as there's a breakfast spot next to the Tuesday Morning

FBS
Apr 27, 2015

The real fun of living wisely is that you get to be smug about it.

I can't decide if Kanye West appearing at a Beto O'Rourke rally three days before the election would be good or bad

Kunabomber
Oct 1, 2002


Pillbug
I was at the Denton county elections office for election official training. They gave us some stats to chew on.

Currently 46% of all registered voters have cast their ballot during early voting. 2014 had 35% turnout and 2016 had 65% turnout.

538 model assumed a 40% turnout.

Shits gonna be broken as gently caress

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
Currently Beto is doing the Black Tie Dinner. Big deal in the Dallas gay community and for movers and shakers

https://twitter.com/mattsonhayhurst/status/1058877555678371841
Very Three Olives and not really my scene though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzgA9kbrzzM

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Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2018-elections/2018/11/02/beto-orourke-texas-early-voting-turnout-continues-win

Early-voting data from Target Smart, a Democratic political data company, shows that the youth vote in Texas has jumped 508 percent since 2014, Newsweek reported, and voters over the age of 65 increased by 96 percent. More than 200,000 first-time voters had cast ballots in Texas by Thursday, the company said.


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young ppl are also really small segment of the electorate so their turnout increases bring much smaller number of voters than similar levels with olds

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Typo posted:

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2018-elections/2018/11/02/beto-orourke-texas-early-voting-turnout-continues-win

Early-voting data from Target Smart, a Democratic political data company, shows that the youth vote in Texas has jumped 508 percent since 2014, Newsweek reported, and voters over the age of 65 increased by 96 percent. More than 200,000 first-time voters had cast ballots in Texas by Thursday, the company said.


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young ppl are also really small segment of the electorate so their turnout increases bring much smaller number of voters than similar levels with olds

Yeah I thought the better way of looking at it was in 2014 the olds outnumbered the young 10-to-1, and this year it has been just 3-to-1

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
No Kanye

Shows my predictive powers

Waffle House
Oct 27, 2004

You follow the path
fitting into an infinite pattern.

Yours to manipulate, to destroy and rebuild.

Now, in the quantum moment
before the closure
when all become one.

One moment left.
One point of space and time.

I know who you are.

You are Destiny.


Horseshoe theory posted:

So is Beto a MAGA chud if Yeezy endorses him? :thunk:

Nah, Kanye left the MAGA camp a few days ago when Jacob Wohl hosed up. Really interesting that he showed up in Dallas tho

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

Bet Travis Scott will be there too

https://twitter.com/NovaMexican/status/1056672552683294721
Also Scott has a way of making Houston look like Blade Runner (or, more so than it already does)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ONRf7h3Mdk&t=65s

lol hes at dj screw's store

Waffle House
Oct 27, 2004

You follow the path
fitting into an infinite pattern.

Yours to manipulate, to destroy and rebuild.

Now, in the quantum moment
before the closure
when all become one.

One moment left.
One point of space and time.

I know who you are.

You are Destiny.


Sir Tonk posted:

lol hes at dj screw's store

Pro loving tier

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc


hmmmm i wonder why the gop isnt throwing all their money at the MI senate race...

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Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc
the modern Screwed Up Record & Tapes doesnt have records OR tapes, just a bunch of CDs

its super lame

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