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What case is that? I am about 3 TB from having my server full, I am thinking of picking up a few more hard drives, but I need to upgrade my case at the same time.
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nerox posted:What case is that? Lian-li A75. Kind of a disappointing case from Lian-li in terms of quality/finish, but it was quite cheap and is literally the only tower case I've found with 12 bays.
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forbidden dialectics posted:Lian-li A75. Kind of a disappointing case from Lian-li in terms of quality/finish, but it was quite cheap and is literally the only tower case I've found with 12 bays. Looks like you have a couple empty 5.25in bays at the top there. Get 6x1TB SSD and stack them vertically in there so that you can have a third 6 drive array. 100% Dundee fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Oct 31, 2018 |
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Oct 31, 2018 21:37
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Nice, I've got one of those cases myself. Your picture threw me off at first because I saw that tower PC in the background as an open door or something and was a bit confused. "that looks so much like my file server's case, but what's with the door?"
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Oct 31, 2018 21:37
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I used to run a Lian Li PC-P80 with Lian Li hotswap drive cages, but I felt like they were causing occasional drive dropouts that drove me crazy.
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Oct 31, 2018 21:39
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Nice, I've got one of those cases myself. Your picture threw me off at first because I saw that tower PC in the background as an open door or something and was a bit confused. "that looks so much like my file server's case, but what's with the door?" Yeah that's a pc-v3000 in the back all torn apart for my other project.
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Oct 31, 2018 21:41
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100% Dundee posted:Looks like you have a couple empty 5.25in bays at the top there. Get 6x1TB SSD and stack them vertically in there so that you can have a third 6 drive array. IcyDock makes some 8x2.5 in 1x5.25. Both SATA and mini-SAS available for connecting to your controller. Might as well really max it out.
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Nov 1, 2018 01:38
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forbidden dialectics posted:Lian-li A75. Kind of a disappointing case from Lian-li in terms of quality/finish, but it was quite cheap and is literally the only tower case I've found with 12 bays. I think one of the nzxt cases has 14. H400 I think
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Nov 1, 2018 02:31
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I just found out about the Norco ITX-S8 yesterday, only to realize that it's not available ANYWHERE in Europe - which is a pity, because the case is essentially perfect since it has an SFF-8087 connected backplane, room for an 1U rack server PSU (which, in turn, has SMBIOS/I2C connectors for Supermicro motherboards) and can fit the Supermicro Denverton boards really well.
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Nov 1, 2018 12:58
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I'm having a hard time deciding if I want to build my own raid/home server or just buy a Synology (and nuc if it turns out that it doesn't have enough horsepower). I like the idea of SHR, but that can just manually be recreated with LVM, right? I think I would enjoy tinkering with the initial setup, but I know I don't want to stress about trying to remember the proper CLI commands when swapping out a failed drive. I thought I was set on prebuilt, but these last few chassis posted catch my tinkering interest. I just don't want to force myself into computer janitor duties.
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I do computer janitoring for a living and am on my second Synology NAS in 5 years or so. I'm happy with that decision. [Edit: If I want to play around with some things the Synology is quite capable. Otherwise I am happy to run VMware Workstation on my main PC, play around with AWS/GCP. If I wanted to add a little compute box or two to have a home lab I can. I use my NAS for things that I'd like to work reliably, so it's nice not having to mess with it.] Internet Explorer fucked around with this message at 16:53 on Nov 1, 2018 |
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Nov 1, 2018 16:50
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CopperHound posted:I'm having a hard time deciding if I want to build my own raid/home server or just buy a Synology (and nuc.) I just don't want to force myself into computer janitor duties. This is me. gently caress computer janitorial duty.
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Nov 1, 2018 17:38
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Unraid requires no janitoring  (I also do not want excessive fuckery with home appliance systems)
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CopperHound posted:I'm having a hard time deciding if I want to build my own raid/home server or just buy a Synology (and nuc if it turns out that it doesn't have enough horsepower). I like the idea of SHR, but that can just manually be recreated with LVM, right? I think I would enjoy tinkering with the initial setup, but I know I don't want to stress about trying to remember the proper CLI commands when swapping out a failed drive.
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priznat posted:Unraid requires no janitoring Yeah if I was building a home NAS it is very hard to beat Unraid.
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Maybe it's years of familiarity, but I don't feel as if FreeBSD with root on ZFS, nfsd, and iscsi-target in kernel for file and block sharing respectively is a huge task that I'd qualify as computer janitorial duties. Or maybe it's the fact that I set it up whenever FreeBSD 7 came out, so it's been something like a decade and therefore I don't remember?
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Nov 1, 2018 22:48
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ZFS is for enterprise. Pretty much that.
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redeyes posted:ZFS is for enterprise. Pretty much that.
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Hello friends, what is that card everyone buys to add 8 sata slots to their servers?
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nerox posted:Hello friends, what is that card everyone buys to add 8 sata slots to their servers? LSI something in IT mode.
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Nov 3, 2018 15:37
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IBM m1015 is the common one you can find on eBay. You don't need the raid 5 key.
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Nov 3, 2018 15:37
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Dell PERC H310, or just an LSI 9211-8i if you don't want to gently caress with the convoluted firmware flashing process
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Clark Nova posted:Dell PERC H310, or just an LSI 9211-8i if you don't want to gently caress with the convoluted firmware flashing process And don't forget that depending on the motherboard, you may have to mask off a pin on the PCI-E connector with tape. It's cheaper, but the time required isn't worth the tradeoff IMHO. I did it, but wished I didn't.
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I did it, and had to do several of the later steps on an intel/eufi motherboard instead of the older amd/bios mobo I was going to use it in for reasons I won't pretend to understand 
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CopperHound posted:I'm having a hard time deciding if I want to build my own raid/home server or just buy a Synology (and nuc if it turns out that it doesn't have enough horsepower). I like the idea of SHR, but that can just manually be recreated with LVM, right? I think I would enjoy tinkering with the initial setup, but I know I don't want to stress about trying to remember the proper CLI commands when swapping out a failed drive. Rolling your own XPenology box is also an option. Speaking of.... I've been running XPenology for years on an HP N54L, and I'm about to wipe it, install 6 newly shucked HGST 8TB drives, and most likely going with a XPenology 6.2. I had been at 5.0 for a long time, and one of the new features is btrfs. I remember this thread being the ZFS fan thread, and I've seen btrfs compared to it, how does it hold up? Can you do any sort of scrub with btrfs? Open to arguments that I should really consider something else, but I don't know why I would pay for unraid, and FreeNAS I remember scrapping 10 in a way that made me think it was a project I'd not entrust my data to.
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Btrfs is... ok. ZFS is better. Neither are as flexible as unraid's weird raid4 thing + tiered storage thing.
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btrfs's RAID options are immature as hell and it's only a matter of time till they fail on you from what I've heard.
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Has anyone here tried stablebot DrivePool with an all sad pool? Thinking of pooling 3-4 ssds together in my next gaming PC so that I have a giant amount of fast storage for steam games and VMs. I just want to make sure drivepool doesn't add a ton of overhead or anything that would make this a bad idea
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So umm... Am I doing this right? Just got a 918+, 4x 8TB Toshiba server models. I know you guys were saying btrs isnt great but I guess I'm trying the synology recommended route and going for a single volume. I still need to clean up my living room and my stupid cables. I have a feeling I'm not sorting out my volumes correctly and I should actually have different volumes, 1 for documents for mulitple users *a little more crucial, desk top settings and documents and stuff so new computer purchases get in sync with old one *** 1 for movies and anime 1 for pictures? I really dont know how to designate the size for my volumes, media i dont really care, but pictures is super important. I suppose having it in its own volume allows easier backup right? Never the less I know RAID is not backup so will have a secondary in USB and tertiary in off site
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Paul MaudDib posted:btrfs's RAID options are immature as hell and it's only a matter of time till they fail on you from what I've heard. I was reading up on this yesterday and apparently all but a few of the bugs have been patched. I still don't really trust it at all tbh.
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btrfs has a long history and a bad reputation but it's pretty much fine now AFAIK, at least for RAID1. Facebook uses it extensively and Synology is pushing it for all of their higher end NASes. It's matured a lot in the last few years. There is no reason to have multiple volumes on a Synology NAS either. It doesn't really simplify anything. TheFluff fucked around with this message at 15:03 on Nov 4, 2018 |
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VostokProgram posted:Has anyone here tried stablebot DrivePool with an all sad pool? Thinking of pooling 3-4 ssds together in my next gaming PC so that I have a giant amount of fast storage for steam games and VMs. I just want to make sure drivepool doesn't add a ton of overhead or anything that would make this a bad idea I've used it pool 2 SSDs into a single volume and it's worked great. One piece of advice I give everyone using DrivePool is to mount the drives you want to pool as folders instead of drive letters so that you aren't junking up your main drive listing with a bunch of drives you shouldn't be using.
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Krailor posted:I've used it pool 2 SSDs into a single volume and it's worked great. One piece of advice I give everyone using DrivePool is to mount the drives you want to pool as folders instead of drive letters so that you aren't junking up your main drive listing with a bunch of drives you shouldn't be using. I love drive pool and this does work fine. All depends if you omg HATE drive letters.
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caberham posted:So umm... Am I doing this right? Yes you are doing it right. You have 4 disks so you can have 1 volume. From there you can make shares for those things which are literally just folders plus magic. Any backup you do will be folder by folder on a file basis, not a disk by disk block basis. Break up shares by major purpose or permission set. Basically pictures, movies, documents, doublesecretpornstash.
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Thanks, may I ask why have different volumes then? I guess it’s for VMs or other applications or some sort of individual environment?
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Synology doesn't use the btrfs raid implementation. I don't know what that actually means with regards to what benefits you actually get from btrfs.
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caberham posted:Thanks, may I ask why have different volumes then? Yes. Workloads which would impact the performance of your other volumes could be segregated onto other volumes. Also to reduce rebuild times, or if using a multi bay expander I would make it its own volume for portability. Generally home users need 1 volume and many shares.
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CopperHound posted:Synology doesn't use the btrfs raid implementation. Synology disables copy on write and checksum features on shares unless you use it. https://www.synology.com/en-global/knowledgebase/DSM/help/DSM/AdminCenter/file_share_create
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CopperHound posted:Synology doesn't use the btrfs raid implementation. Viktor posted:Synology disables copy on write and checksum features on shares unless you use it. Edit: Not sure what link you meant to share, Viktor, since the one you did share doesn't seem relevant unless I missed something, but according to https://www.synology.com/en-us/dsm/Btrfs "The metadata mirroring and checksum features are enabled by default on all Btrfs volumes. For files, the copy-on-write and checksum features are enabled by default, but can be switched off for best performance." Sub Rosa fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Nov 4, 2018 |
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Copperhound asks about the benefits of using btrfs. Viktor replies that benefits of using btrfs are having copy on write and checksum features enabled. (Those would be disabled if you didn't use btrfs) Seems perfectly coherent to me.
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