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Honj Steak posted:However, please note that war loving sucks and almost anything is preferable over that. Americans never had a war on their soil in living memory, so people just can't fathom how bad it is. The vast majority of Americans have not been alive for a war in which the USA was the good guys.
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Honj Steak posted:However, please note that war loving sucks and almost anything is preferable over that. Americans never had a war on their soil in living memory, so people just can't fathom how bad it is. Two days ago this glazed ham that works at a Verizon store in West Virginia was on Facebook talking about how he's going to be fighting in the second civil war and I laughed my taint off. These doughy twits that have only ever lived in a strip mall and been catered to by underpaid employees REALLY don't understand how war works at all.
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Dickbutt Ouroboros posted:http://lmgtfy.com/?q=nuclear+bomb+unnecessary This is offtopic so I'll say this and let it stand: it's not at all a fringe view, it's a very common view among, e.g. redditors who think they're a lot cleverer than they are, and who have no real knowledge of the subject. The idea that Japan was "in the process of surrendering" is false, full stop. Certain members of the supreme leadership were coming around to the idea; this we know from intercepts. But that's as far as it went. Given the ongoing mass atrocities the IJA was committing in occupied China and elsewhere, giving the Imperial council a push to move them from a minority saying "we should surrender, with conditions" to the emperor accepting Potsdam was absolutely justifiable.
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Dickbutt Ouroboros posted:http://lmgtfy.com/?q=nuclear+bomb+unnecessary Lookit this fuckin' nerd posing as the worlds dumbest historian.
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Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:This is offtopic so I'll say this and let it stand: it's not at all a fringe view, it's a very common view among, e.g. redditors who think they're a lot cleverer than they are, and who have no real knowledge of the subject. The idea that Japan was "in the process of surrendering" is false, full stop. Certain members of the supreme leadership were coming around to the idea; this we know from intercepts. But that's as far as it went. Given the ongoing mass atrocities the IJA was committing in occupied China and elsewhere, giving the Imperial council a push to move them from a minority saying "we should surrender, with conditions" to the emperor accepting Potsdam was absolutely justifiable. This is accurate.
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Nov 4, 2018 20:05
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People don't realize Japan was doing atrocities at scale bc the Nazis got all the press
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:Two days ago this glazed ham that works at a Verizon store in West Virginia was on Facebook talking about how he's going to be fighting in the second civil war and I laughed my taint off. this is very much like the discussion in "in bruges"
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Since when has the lolthread become the sadbrains death cult central ? honest question, please speak about what exactly made you break down into misery machines
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WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW posted:https://twitter.com/CNNOpinion/status/1058031062130003968?s=19 This is the closest we're ever going to get to a Libertarian admitting that the things they believe in lead to the things they claim to not want.
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skipThings posted:Since when has the lolthread become the sadbrains death cult central ? TROMP!!
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Dickbutt Ouroboros posted:Truman was a huge piece of poo poo that pretty much kicked off the cold war singlehandedly. Even Roosevelt didn't trust his VP lol. He didn't tell him jack poo poo about the Manhattan Project, for example. It's pretty amazing that Truman went from not knowing about it to nuking the poo poo out of Japanese cities in five months. It's a really good thing noted rear end in a top hat MacArthur didn't like Truman either or he might have listened to Mac's insane ideas during the Korean War a bit more.
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skipThings posted:Since when has the lolthread become the sadbrains death cult central ? Since January 20th,, 2017
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skipThings posted:Since when has the lolthread become the sadbrains death cult central ? I'm still loling every day. Anyone who can't howl their balls into orbit while gazing into the abyss is a fuckin' loser.
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skipThings posted:Since when has the lolthread become the sadbrains death cult central ? lol look at this dude with no awareness of the state of the world or current events
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skipThings posted:Since when has the lolthread become the sadbrains death cult central ? It has always been sadbrains death cult central https://twitter.com/Papapishu/status/746803108949409793
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shovelbum posted:People don't realize Japan was doing atrocities at scale bc the Nazis got all the press No, they were doing terrifying things. That's no question. I'm arguing the use of nuclear weapons was not "cool and good" and the entire justification (which I'm not sure one exists for using nuclear weapons) was just bullshit dick-waving. It was a loving dumbass move by a lovely president that set the tone for the US's post-WW2 foreign policy of "Do what we say or else" that still stands to this day. Then we wonder why a huge portion of the world hates us? Someone earlier said that we haven't been the good guys since WW2 but I think this point, right here, at the end of WW2 where Truman made this decision against a lot of better advice marks the point that we crossed that line. Dickbutt Ouroboros fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Nov 4, 2018 |
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Dickbutt Ouroboros posted:No, they were doing terrifying things. That's no question. I'm arguing the use of nuclear weapons was not "cool and good" and the entire justification (which I'm not sure one exists for using nuclear weapons) was just bullshit dick-waving. It was a loving dumbass move by a lovely president that set the tone for the US's post-WW2 foreign policy of "Do what we say or else" that still stands to this day. Then we wonder why a huge portion of the world hates us? They were extremely good and prevented a full on land invasion that would have made D-Day look like a sideshow bagatelle. Any good or bad guy narrative is just the most facile poo poo. Remember, as already mentioned, half a million burned to death from regular old incendiary bombs in Dresden.
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The Protagonist posted:Remember, as already mentioned, half a million burned to death from regular old incendiary bombs in Dresden. Jesus Christ no they didn't that was a joke about how dumb redditors are because they constantly say poo poo like "Dresden was a cultural center and not a valid military target" and "a bajillion people died in the firebombings." Which is literal Nazi propaganda, like, from Goebbels mouth to your ears.
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Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:This is offtopic so I'll say this and let it stand: it's not at all a fringe view, it's a very common view among, e.g. redditors who think they're a lot cleverer than they are, and who have no real knowledge of the subject. The idea that Japan was "in the process of surrendering" is false, full stop. Certain members of the supreme leadership were coming around to the idea; this we know from intercepts. But that's as far as it went. Given the ongoing mass atrocities the IJA was committing in occupied China and elsewhere, giving the Imperial council a push to move them from a minority saying "we should surrender, with conditions" to the emperor accepting Potsdam was absolutely justifiable. Alternative takes on history is like conspiracy theory for people that consider themselves super smart
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The Protagonist posted:They were extremely good and prevented a full on land invasion that would have made D-Day look like a sideshow bagatelle. Any good or bad guy narrative is just the most facile poo poo. Remember, as already mentioned, half a million burned to death from regular old incendiary bombs in Dresden. 
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Are people seriously doing the "Dresden was a peaceful farm community for orphans and Japan was literally 4 seconds from surrendering" thing in this thread? LMAO, let me guess the concentration camps were also family fun zones with beer gardens and movie nights and a water park? loving retards.
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The Protagonist posted:They were extremely good and prevented a full on land invasion that would have made D-Day look like a sideshow bagatelle. Any good or bad guy narrative is just the most facile poo poo. Remember, as already mentioned, half a million burned to death from regular old incendiary bombs in Dresden. also the reason hiroshima and nagasaki were chosen as targets is they were just about the last two cities in japan that hadn’t already been extensively firebombed. the atomic bombings weren’t unique in the scale of their devastation and human suffering, they were just novel in it being done by a single bomb dropped by a flight of ten planes instead of a multi-day operation involving hundreds of planes and thousands of bombs
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quote:That doesn’t put off Rachell Marks, 59, of Billings, Montana who said her love for Trump is unexplainable and would continue to back him. 
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Overheard a bunch of old motherfuckers at my apartment complex talking about Trump yesterday while waiting for the elevator, one person says "I can't support him because he's always lying!" and the other person goes "Name one politician who doesn't lie! This man has done so much good for our country but nobody knows it because everybody's watching the fake news." I didn't want to get into an argument with a group of geriatrics but really wanted to say "You know he won't truly be happy until you don't have free Medicare, right?". I also really loving hate the "Pfft, ALL polticians lie!" argument.
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:Are people seriously doing the "Dresden was a peaceful farm community for orphans and Japan was literally 4 seconds from surrendering" thing in this thread? my dad once told me that the Japanese surrendered but we a-bombed them anyways as a lesson
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Siljmonster posted:my dad once told me that the Japanese surrendered but we a-bombed them anyways as a lesson You should punch your dad in the dick during his wake.
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fishing with the fam posted:You should punch your dad in the dick during his wake. 
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mono posted:I gotta say, navy seal > firefighter killing people vs helping people 🤷♂️
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