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And in some cases, even if it'd work, the publisher could just absorb the cost of the boycott. Like, some people wanted to boycott Red Dead Redemption 2 because of the labor conditions it was made under, but it would cost Take 2 and Rockstar less to eat those lost sales than to introduce ethical working conditions.
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Alhazred posted:The company that made the lovely aliens game were sued, which cost them money. Tjen someone discovered the bug that crippled the enemy ai. This didn't make the game good, but ut siden make it playable. I didn't hear about this. Was the ai too aggressive or something?
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Blue Footed Booby posted:I didn't hear about this. Was the ai too aggressive or something? Lol, no. The AI was completely broken in the stupidity sense. https://www.ign.com/articles/2018/07/15/modder-fixes-maligned-aliens-colonial-marines-ai-with-one-simple-coding-change
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Nov 5, 2018 16:10
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Blue Footed Booby posted:I didn't hear about this. Was the ai too aggressive or something? No, just completely useless. And AFAIK it was because of a single typo.
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Nov 5, 2018 16:11
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Blue Footed Booby posted:I didn't hear about this. Was the ai too aggressive or something? Aggression is one thing it did not have in excess. 
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Nov 5, 2018 16:12
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Pondex posted:No, just completely useless. And AFAIK it was because of a single typo. Yep. You can fix it by just, you know, changing the one typo. Note it doesnt make the game magically good or anything, but it makes it so the enemies actually have functional AI instead of doing a lot of run towards you/jump away in plain sight and not attck.
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spog posted:Aggression is one thing it did not have in excess. Ah, that trainweck. Thought we were still talking about the X-com shooter. Lol.
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Blue Footed Booby posted:I didn't hear about this. Was the ai too aggressive or something? The opposite; it barely did anything. The xenomorphs would just charge straight at the player regardless of terrain, tactical considerations, etc., so there was no real challenge or variation. The way the game's combat system worked, the xenos were supposed to be attached to tethers in the world, which changed the NPCs' behavior based on the environment around the tether and where the player-controlled units were in relationship to the tether. The line in the config file that controlled this (I'm not sure why this is in a config file) was code:e: whoops, beaten by a lot
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spog posted:Aggression is one thing it did not have in excess. That's one of the places the AI actually works.
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I was also curious if the "Get woke get broke" philosophy actually applied in the real world. Angry nerds could certainly review bomb games on steam but whether they affected the bottom line is another matter.
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The MSJ posted:That's one of the places the AI actually works. Yea, those specific xenos were ancient and decrepit. That's why it's all gray and cracked. They were blind, because every game needs a mandatory stealth section.
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Nov 5, 2018 16:27
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The Colonial Marines game story was awesome. The main publisher outsourced to another game developer who outsourced to a 3rd developer who made that piece of crap. I think you can buy the broken version on Steam still for about a buck and then manually plug in that one command to make it less broken (but still kind of broke). Waffleman_ posted:And in some cases, even if it'd work, the publisher could just absorb the cost of the boycott. Like, some people wanted to boycott Red Dead Redemption 2 because of the labor conditions it was made under, but it would cost Take 2 and Rockstar less to eat those lost sales than to introduce ethical working conditions. The Ford Pinto method of crisis management.
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spog posted:Aggression is one thing it did not have in excess.
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Krispy Wafer posted:Not a boycott necessarily, but the negative reaction to the last SimCity cost the EA CEO his job. Also the complaints/boycott threats/bad press over the loot boxes in Star Wars Battlefront II got the CEO of EA a phone call from Bob Iger who probably said something like "What the gently caress are loot boxes and why are they making everyone poo poo on your game, which I own?" Presto, no more non-cosmetic microtransactions.
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Wasn't that the Aliens game where one of the developers it was outsourced to took the money to make their own completely different game?
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Phanatic posted:Also the complaints/boycott threats/bad press over the loot boxes in Star Wars Battlefront II got the CEO of EA a phone call from Bob Iger who probably said something like "What the gently caress are loot boxes and why are they making everyone poo poo on your game, which I own?" Presto, no more non-cosmetic microtransactions. It's got to be a fun day at the office when the CEO of Disney thinks you've crossed the line in exploiting IP.
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love it when corporations gently caress up and fall on their faces  jojoinnit posted:Wasn't that the Aliens game where one of the developers it was outsourced to took the money to make their own completely different game? Allegedly the money went into the Borderlands series and finishing Duke Nukem Forever, but IIRC the source was some anonymous posts on a blog.
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Phanatic posted:Also the complaints/boycott threats/bad press over the loot boxes in Star Wars Battlefront II got the CEO of EA a phone call from Bob Iger who probably said something like "What the gently caress are loot boxes and why are they making everyone poo poo on your game, which I own?" Presto, no more non-cosmetic microtransactions. The big thing there was that it got government officials (mostly in the EU but also in Hawaii) to start looking at lootboxes as a form of gambling. In addition to Disney not wanting to sully their multi-billion dollar spaceman franchise over a Battlefield reskin EA didn't want to risk their multi-billion dollar FIFA-themed social casino getting regulated.
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Nov 5, 2018 22:08
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If true, this just makes it funnier: https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1059529758546059264
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Nov 5, 2018 22:59
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Ghost Leviathan posted:If true, this just makes it funnier:
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There is absolutely no way that Blizzard would actively decide to hold off on showing a Diablo 4 promo at loving Blizzcon.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:If true, this just makes it funnier: Think someone just fell for a leak test and someones getting fired.
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Nov 5, 2018 23:29
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Then it's like those April Fool's announcements that everyone genuinely likes more than the actual announcements.
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Zil posted:Think someone just fell for a leak test and someones getting fired. Are there any resources on “leak tests” in general? Because either I’m misreading the intent of this post or there are IP owners/companies who routinely try to test employee loyalty this way as opposed to, you know, not loving telling anyone who doesn’t need to know.
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SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:Are there any resources on “leak tests” in general? Because either I’m misreading the intent of this post or there are IP owners/companies who routinely try to test employee loyalty this way as opposed to, you know, not loving telling anyone who doesn’t need to know. Sometimes people do need to know things to do their job, but you still don't want those things leaking.
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Yeah, it sounds like less of a loyalty test and more of a way to track down where leaks come from if they pop up.
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https://twitter.com/PUBG/status/1059616915868381184 Is doing a tie-in for a movie that came out two years ago and wasn't particularly popular critically a dumb marketing move?
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Waffleman_ posted:Is doing a tie-in for a movie that came out two years ago and wasn't particularly popular critically a dumb marketing move? You sure it's for the movie, and not the comics it's based on? I'm not up on comics news- maybe DC is having some kind of Suicide Squad thing going on?
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Nov 6, 2018 02:54
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I mean that's the logo for the movie, and those are the designs from the movie.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:If true, this just makes it funnier: Tweet's gone. But based on context, was it just an unsubstantiated rumor that a Diablo 4 was pushed off at the last minute, leading to the mobile game announcement as a replacement?
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SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:Are there any resources on “leak tests” in general? Because either I’m misreading the intent of this post or there are IP owners/companies who routinely try to test employee loyalty this way as opposed to, you know, not loving telling anyone who doesn’t need to know. Usually it’s called a “mole trap” and set when you know you have a mole and want to find him or her.
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Don't forget that gamer outrage at Battlefront II resulted in a lot of changes to the game and has impacted other games with lootcrates.
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Waffleman_ posted:I mean that's the logo for the movie, and those are the designs from the movie. Fair enough; I didn't watch the movie either.
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Platystemon posted:Usually it’s called a “mole trap” and set when you know you have a mole and want to find him or her. Also called a 'barium meal'.
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Zero One posted:Don't forget that gamer outrage at Battlefront II resulted in a lot of changes to the game and has impacted other games with lootcrates. Lootcrates have gotten seriously out of hand. The backlash actually started before that that one was just probably the biggest, most blatant and shameless attempt to milk as much money as possible out of gamers. If memory serves it was extremely pay to win and people doing the math went "wow that's a gently caress load of money" if you wanted to get a good pile of goodies. That and they did the math to show that in theory you could get everything by just playing but it would take a thoroughly absurd amount of time. The whole thing was a pretty blatant "lol gently caress you you're a money pinata and not a customer" thing. Then there was that racing game or the fact that EA did stupid poo poo like release Sims 4 with less content then Sims 3 at launch. Anything that Sims 3 had by default was DLC. Sims 3 was lovely enough with the DLC stuff in the first place. Sims 4 was just loving crazy.
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Waffleman_ posted:https://twitter.com/PUBG/status/1059616915868381184 It was not popular critically but it's definitely one of the more well received 2016 movies among the general audience. That's why you hear more rumors and announcements about Suicide Squad spinoffs and sequels than a new Batman or Superman movie. Why are they doing it now is unknown. The next movie related to Suicide Squad will be Birds of Prey in 2020.
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I mean, that's been the business plan for the sims since 2. New game comes out, then you get sold the features that were in the expansions for the previous one over the next 7 years.
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Volcott posted:I mean, that's been the business plan for the sims since 2. New game comes out, then you get sold the features that were in the expansions for the previous one over the next 7 years. From my understanding it wasn't that Sims 4 sold Sims 3 expansion features as DLC, it was that 4 sold features from 3 core as DLC.
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Zero One posted:Don't forget that gamer outrage at Battlefront II resulted in a lot of changes to the game and has impacted other games with lootcrates. Honestly I think it had more to do with loot boxes being investigated as gambling in Belgium. If the entire EU started banning them thats too big of a market to lose.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Lootcrates have gotten seriously out of hand. The backlash actually started before that that one was just probably the biggest, most blatant and shameless attempt to milk as much money as possible out of gamers. If memory serves it was extremely pay to win and people doing the math went "wow that's a gently caress load of money" if you wanted to get a good pile of goodies. That and they did the math to show that in theory you could get everything by just playing but it would take a thoroughly absurd amount of time. Playing for nearly three weeks straight to unlock both, and that's if you didn't spend nay of the whatever it was on anything else.
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