Tashilicious posted:

You may have noticed that Catholic Canon is more than just the bible. There are, in fact, two thousand years of theological and metaphysical arguments of things not explicit in the bible, because the bible did not cover certain topics, and the Church needed them covered.


It's like going "There's nothing in the constitution about managing radio waves so really the US Government are loving retards"

CloFan posted:

So did Mary not sin at all in her early life?

CloFan posted:

So did Mary not sin at all in her early life?

mobby_6kl posted:

But cheese is good, no argument there as long as it's loaded with maggots.

Facebook Aunt posted:

e: poo poo, funny pictures thread. Um.




Yeah, but the extended universe stuff is pretty wild.

Like Limbo. If Original Sin exists then even newborn babies are sinners. And if all sinners go to hell, then newborn babies that die go to hell. Maybe stillbirths and miscarriages, if they have souls (some think you don't get a soul until your first breath). Catholics have baptism take place shortly after birth which is supposed to be some sort of patch that keeps tiny children saved but not saved saved until they reach the age of understanding and can get for real saved. But still, some babies die before that happens. Which would leave tiny infants in eternal conscious torment for the Original Sins they inherited . . . which is an uncomfortable theological position. But obviously they can't go to heaven either. So a long while back the catholics invented Limbo, a place where unbaptised babies could go for an eternity of bliss and isolation. Then a few years back the pope said Limbo probably doesn't exist, we don't know what happens to the babies but we hope for mercy.

2000 years of people going "but what about?" and then trying to fill in the blanks with whatever sounds close enough.

Picnic Princess posted:

Pretty sure all women are eternally evil thanks to Eve, so I'm not sure what kind of story she managed to weave to look so innocent.

RCarr posted:

Get a load of this guy.

Moon Slayer posted:

The more I learn about older Catholic doctrine, rituals, and apocrypha, the more I wonder if I would have stayed in the Church if that kind of stuff was still around.

snergle posted:

What was that early christian death cult where they would try to trick people into killing them? They would get drunk af and pick fights with roman soldiers and poo poo to "martyr" because they believed they would auto go to heaven if a non christian killed them and it was better then the hell dimension they lived in. asking for a friend who may want to convert.

Facebook Aunt posted:

e: poo poo, funny pictures thread. Um.




Yeah, but the extended universe stuff is pretty wild.

Like Limbo. If Original Sin exists then even newborn babies are sinners. And if all sinners go to hell, then newborn babies that die go to hell. Maybe stillbirths and miscarriages, if they have souls (some think you don't get a soul until your first breath). Catholics have baptism take place shortly after birth which is supposed to be some sort of patch that keeps tiny children saved but not saved saved until they reach the age of understanding and can get for real saved. But still, some babies die before that happens. Which would leave tiny infants in eternal conscious torment for the Original Sins they inherited . . . which is an uncomfortable theological position. But obviously they can't go to heaven either. So a long while back the catholics invented Limbo, a place where unbaptised babies could go for an eternity of bliss and isolation. Then a few years back the pope said Limbo probably doesn't exist, we don't know what happens to the babies but we hope for mercy.

2000 years of people going "but what about?" and then trying to fill in the blanks with whatever sounds close enough.

freeedr posted:

Dannywilson posted:

In the ream of grognarding the system, the Catholic church has nothing on Orthodox Judaism

Facebook Aunt posted:

e: poo poo, funny pictures thread. Um.




Yeah, but the extended universe stuff is pretty wild.

Like Limbo. If Original Sin exists then even newborn babies are sinners. And if all sinners go to hell, then newborn babies that die go to hell. Maybe stillbirths and miscarriages, if they have souls (some think you don't get a soul until your first breath). Catholics have baptism take place shortly after birth which is supposed to be some sort of patch that keeps tiny children saved but not saved saved until they reach the age of understanding and can get for real saved. But still, some babies die before that happens. Which would leave tiny infants in eternal conscious torment for the Original Sins they inherited . . . which is an uncomfortable theological position. But obviously they can't go to heaven either. So a long while back the catholics invented Limbo, a place where unbaptised babies could go for an eternity of bliss and isolation. Then a few years back the pope said Limbo probably doesn't exist, we don't know what happens to the babies but we hope for mercy.

2000 years of people going "but what about?" and then trying to fill in the blanks with whatever sounds close enough.

Ghost Leviathan posted:

There's that Jewish tale/joke about a pair of rabbis arguing about some technicality, God himself descends to say one of them is actually right, and depending on the telling it's either 'well now it's two against one' or both of them saying 'This has nothing to do with you', the latter has God take it in very good humour and is later found laughing on his throne in Heaven, and tells an angel that his children have defeated him.

BrigadierSensible posted:

snergle posted:

What was that early christian death cult where they would try to trick people into killing them? They would get drunk af and pick fights with roman soldiers and poo poo to "martyr" because they believed they would auto go to heaven if a non christian killed them and it was better then the hell dimension they lived in. asking for a friend who may want to convert.

BlockChainNetflix posted:

lmbao that's not Jesus, that's a vampire. Where's his reflection you ninny?! You nincompoop! You god damned lamebrain!

Tashilicious posted:

Vampires don't cast reflections because a lot of early mirrors were silvered hth

BlockChainNetflix posted:

lmbao that's not Jesus, that's a vampire. Where's his reflection you ninny?! You nincompoop! You god damned lamebrain!

Tashilicious posted:

You may have noticed that Catholic Canon is more than just the bible. There are, in fact, two thousand years of theological and metaphysical arguments of things not explicit in the bible, because the bible did not cover certain topics, and the Church needed them covered.


It's like going "There's nothing in the constitution about managing radio waves so really the US Government are loving retards"

Tashilicious posted:

I like this about Judaism. It's often literally Jews just arguing with God, and neither side really wins? It's just... An argument that's been happening since the time of Abraham and both sides are just like "Yeah this is how it's done" and get really creative with ways to skirt right on the edge of the letter of the rule without breaking it, but then entirely violating the spirit of it and shrugging.

BlockChainNetflix posted:

lmbao that's not Jesus, that's a vampire. Where's his reflection you ninny?! You nincompoop! You god damned lamebrain!

Caufman posted:

They are aware it's a vampire.

Sponge Baathist posted:

Hey OP could you extend the rule from October reflected in the thread title for the rest of the year?

Moon Slayer posted:

The more I learn about older Catholic doctrine, rituals, and apocrypha, the more I wonder if I would have stayed in the Church if that kind of stuff was still around.

BlockChainNetflix posted:

This should end any discussion about vampirism.

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Now it's about lichs!

FreudianSlippers posted:

We drink Jesus but Dracula drinks us.

Obviously Dracula is a much more logical choice for LORD and/or saviour.