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Mortabis posted:What is even in PEI besides Anne of Green Gables cosplay anyway. Potatoes?
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red sand, too many jellyfish, and water that's ridiculously loving cold west coast best coast
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Nov 6, 2018 20:34
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Mortabis posted:What is even in PEI besides Anne of Green Gables cosplay anyway. Potatoes and corrupt senators mostly.
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Nov 6, 2018 21:51
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priznat posted:Potatoes and corrupt senators mostly. And ruled by the irvings. I've been across that bridge though, it's pretty neat.
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Nov 6, 2018 22:40
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Question: T-50/SU-57 is still a future fighter? Have they found an engine for it? Have they figured out the fatigue issues that I vaguely recall reading about? Is there any international partners at all? What's the deal with the PAK-FA?
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Nov 7, 2018 00:03
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priznat posted:Don’t they have icebergs floatin around Sea ice only, you don’t really get icebergs in the gulf of St Lawrence (except the Belle Isle strait area)
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Nov 7, 2018 00:08
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SU57 is the production version of the PAK-FA. But they are only making a handful of them with no current plans to buy more because Russia would rather buy nuclear tsunami drone subs.
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Nov 7, 2018 00:10
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Literally Upper Volta with rockets.
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Nov 7, 2018 00:36
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Also not even India who helped fund the PAK-FA is buying in which probably points to it not actually being close to the hype.
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Nov 7, 2018 00:50
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Alaan posted:Also not even India who helped fund the PAK-FA is buying in which probably points to it not actually being close to the hype. I thought Russia tried to absolutely screw them on that somehow - basically changing them from a development partner to a funding partner or something, asking for more money while restricting India's access to technology (and thereby ability to manufacture anything independently)?
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Nov 7, 2018 01:05
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priznat posted:Don’t they have icebergs floatin around This would be correct - if the province had actually wanted it, lots of people didn't It got it because 1. it is a province, and 2. Canada tries to keep around a 1-1 value for votes (usually lagging behind population growth) but PEI it's like 2:1, so the Fed is *very* attentive to Canada's Rhode island
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Nov 7, 2018 01:24
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Shooting Blanks posted:I thought Russia tried to absolutely screw them on that somehow - basically changing them from a development partner to a funding partner or something, asking for more money while restricting India's access to technology (and thereby ability to manufacture anything independently)? They did, there is a reason why India in talk with us now instead of Russia in regards to aviation and possible a expanded navy. Back Hack fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Nov 7, 2018 |
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Nov 7, 2018 01:40
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Back Hack posted:They did, there is a reason why India in talk with us now instead of Russia in regards to aviation and possible a expanded navy. India has pissed away so much money with the Pak and that aircraft carrier that ended up costing 2x and 2 years late.
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Nov 7, 2018 01:54
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priznat posted:Potatoes and corrupt senators mostly. I think you'll find the senators aren't really there either. 
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Nov 7, 2018 02:43
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Nebakenezzer posted:This would be correct - if the province had actually wanted it, lots of people didn't It doesn’t take much to get us westerners a bit salty about the way the money tilts towards the maritimes and newfoundland  (warranted or not)PEI has one senator per 38k people (4 for pop 150k) and BC has one per.. 800k. (6 for 4.8million). It’s laughable bullshit. PEI wouldn’t even be the the 3rd biggest city in BC. What I’m saying is BC should invade PEI and take their senators by force.
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Nov 7, 2018 04:18
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Why does Canada even have a senate? When’s the last time a senator had a remotely significant impact on politics?
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Nov 7, 2018 04:35
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FrozenVent posted:Why does Canada even have a senate? When’s the last time a senator had a remotely significant impact on politics? Individual senators not so much since they’re usually pretty overwhelmingly packed with whoever the most recent government to appoint a bunch of senators. It’s pretty flawed for a number of reasons but the representation is bullshit!! In more airpower news David Pugilese had quite the scoop a few days ago about the boondoggle that was flying VIPs (tiger williams?!?) to entertain troops in danger zones like greece https://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/canadian-forces-misled-media-and-public-on-337000-taxpayer-funded-vip-booze-flight
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Nov 7, 2018 04:50
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I wonder what it would take to unfuck military procurement across NATO/The West. Russia seems to be suffering from a lack of funds and not necessarily that they've overspent for not enough capability. I don't think we've heard any stories out of China have we about theirs or are they still continuing a strategy of economy of force to prompt the US to overspend on not enough?priznat posted:It doesn’t take much to get us westerners a bit salty about the way the money tilts towards the maritimes and newfoundland PEI: "You can ha' em!" Our Senate though doesn't wield the power the US Senate does and might be a partial model for how the US needs to fix theirs.
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Nov 7, 2018 05:21
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Cyrano4747 posted:What happens if (when) a ship hits the pylons on a traditional bridge? It was built by COWI and a group of Swedish contractors, and is indeed well-designed and built. However, that was before our 20-year (and ongoing) streak of completely retarded neoliberal robber baron governments. Everything we build now is usually done by lovely Jute subcontractors and Italian weapons companies who take our money, gently caress us out of the product, and then eventually delivering something that doesn't work when we sue them. Tias fucked around with this message at 12:29 on Nov 7, 2018 |
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Nov 7, 2018 10:42
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Raenir Salazar posted:I wonder what it would take to unfuck military procurement across NATO/The West. Russia seems to be suffering from a lack of funds and not necessarily that they've overspent for not enough capability. I don't think we've heard any stories out of China have we about theirs or are they still continuing a strategy of economy of force to prompt the US to overspend on not enough? We're not going to hear much about China because they don't announce much in English, and their announcements in Chinese are essentially propaganda where they hide any issues they actually have. They have tons of problems if you read between the lines, for example a press release of the J-20 described it as combat ready, pending finalization of development and installation into the airframes of the engines, pilot's seat, avionics and oxygen system. But other than that it was 100% combat ready right now. As for their general plan, yes they really want to make it too expensive to attack them.
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Nov 7, 2018 11:08
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Don Gato posted:We're not going to hear much about China because they don't announce much in English, and their announcements in Chinese are essentially propaganda where they hide any issues they actually have. They have tons of problems if you read between the lines, for example a press release of the J-20 described it as combat ready, pending finalization of development and installation into the airframes of the engines, pilot's seat, avionics and oxygen system. But other than that it was 100% combat ready right now. As for their general plan, yes they really want to make it too expensive to attack them. But this makes sense in context though doesn't it considering how far behind they were? The problems the US is having in terms of "procurement screw ups" is why they are problems, the Chinese having a less mature aviation industry and teething issues introducing the new airframes aren't really the same kettle of fish though yeah?
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Nov 7, 2018 15:26
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Raenir Salazar posted:I wonder what it would take to unfuck military procurement across NATO/The West. Russia seems to be suffering from a lack of funds and not necessarily that they've overspent for not enough capability. This is possibly the most generous reading of Russian military procurement I've ever heard. "Well, if they had way more money to spend well then of course they could actually afford to buy things that cost a lot." Me, personally, I interpret 10's of billions spent on a aircraft project over ~20 years that you can only afford to buy 12 of and that your partner has rejected altogether because it doesn't meet requirements and is refusing to dump more money into as having overspent for not enough capability. NATO/Western procurement sucks balls but they do seem able to make progress and be able to procure the items and actually do 'usually' cancel the real boondogles before they get too out of hand.
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Nov 7, 2018 15:50
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Speaking of NATO procurement, apparently Canada's RFP include communication security standard clauses that make it Five-Eyes only. So it'll be a contest between F-35 and Eurofighter just like in Belgium.
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Nov 7, 2018 17:15
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If theres one plane in the world that might actually be a worse procurement nightmare than the F-35, it's the Typhoon. It's extremely close though.
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Nov 7, 2018 17:24
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Canada needs to just buy whichever gets the most aircraft.
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Nov 7, 2018 17:30
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priznat posted:It doesn’t take much to get us westerners a bit salty about the way the money tilts towards the maritimes and newfoundland I am for equal representation, without doubt Though once again, it's not the voters that are doing, or benefit from, this "money tilt". It's that poor places with patronage networks make for extremely reliable political allies. Keep funneling them money, it translates into MP seats, that's the end of the story. It's kinda like...if a province was one of those terraced farms, or something. At the top are people like the Irvings, Sobeys, etc: they get most of this Fed money. Immediately below them are the patrons of the top guys, businesses and unions who've been careful to wall off their little ponds of prosperity and protect them from snake people and anybody else outside their little barony. Of course, this second group has most of the provincial political power, so democracy supports this terraced farm - even though it fucks over most voters. I know you're not saying this, dude. I just feel the need to push back about voters in those places reaping big benefits from this, because they really, really don't (enfranchising a system that keeps the place poor) and this is also more or less the narrative pushed by the fed. Province vs. Province is pretty much the default way for the fed to excuse its venal corruption and incompetence, and it also divides people, me in NL, you in BC, from partnering up politically to Actually Do Something About It.
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Nov 7, 2018 17:45
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Nebakenezzer posted:I am for equal representation, without doubt Yah no worries we are cool, it isn’t the folks living in those places who are at fault, it is definitely related to the system in place. We in BC always feel like we get the hind teat since we’re way out west and usually don’t kick up a fuss except when alberta tries to ram a pipeline through. This is of course used by the feds to shore up their (weak) support in Alberta at our expense. I’ve long felt that BC as a province has far more in common with Washington state and Alaska but this gets into the whole cascadia secession movement that a fringe like to fantasize about  I think we can both agree the true enemy here are the Ontarioans!!
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Nov 7, 2018 18:45
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If Polk has stuck by his guns with Fifty-four forty or fight you all wouldn’t have that problem.
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Nov 7, 2018 18:49
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priznat posted:I think we can both agree the true enemy here are the Ontarioans!!  I think if we play our cards right we can get Northern Ontario to split off from the southern bit Cyrano4747 posted:If Polk has stuck by his guns with Fifty-four forty or fight you all wouldn’t have that problem. The war of 1812 says different! 
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Nov 7, 2018 19:52
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We learned our lesson. Next time we make the White House our patent office!
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hobbesmaster posted:Canada needs to just buy whichever gets the most aircraft. CF-116E/F Tigris
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Nov 7, 2018 21:08
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Solaris 2.0 posted:There’s a line in Rainbow Six where some counter intelligence operative (gently caress if I remember the name) is watching 24 hour news and laments how “boring” international affairs was now and how much he missed the Cold War. https://youtu.be/ltXhvkGCzbA Did Clancy's wife leave him for an Asian dude or something? He really doubled down on the stereotypes later on in the Ryanverse.
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Nov 7, 2018 22:18
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inkjet_lakes posted:https://youtu.be/ltXhvkGCzbA Might have been due to the spike of paranoia around Asian business buying up American real estate en masse. There was a fear back in the 1980s that major American corporations (like GM) would end up owned by Japanese companies. And China was also a thing. Or maybe it was his Southern Strategy, I don't know 
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https://i.imgur.com/tsemCUr.mp4
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Crossposting from the Aviation Geek thread: So this would obviously take quite a bit of time to coordinate, but I was wondering if anyone would be interested in doing a Goon Tour to the Threat Training Facility (and perhaps the Thunderbirds museum) at Nellis AFB in Nevada. Unlike Edwards, which has a monthly tour, Nellis requires a group before their PAO will organize one. You need more than ten, but less than 40 people (presumably because that's the limit of their on-site bus). For those who aren't aware, the Threat Training Facility is colloquially-known as the "Petting Zoo," where you're allowed to touch and/or climb all over/inside a ton of nifty OpFor stuff: http://aviationphotodigest.com/nellis-threat-training-facility/ I'm willing to be the schmuck who organizes it, but I'd like to gauge interest first. Foreign nationals are welcome, but it requires another layer of complexity (over simply getting to Vegas, that is). BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Nov 7, 2018 |
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Nov 7, 2018 23:38
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Got a book on the F11F-1F, and it has an ~unusual~ stores arrangement.  
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MadBurgerMaker posted:What happens if (when?) a ship hits one of those pontoons? something like this I imagine 
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Nov 8, 2018 00:51
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LostCosmonaut posted:Got a book on the F11F-1F, and it has an ~unusual~ stores arrangement. What are the reasons for storing munitions under the aircraft anyway? Other than the obvious reason of "bombs fall down", for missiles does it really matter?
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Nov 8, 2018 01:30
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Re‐arming the aircraft is more involved if munitions are mounted above the wings.
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Splode posted:What are the reasons for storing munitions under the aircraft anyway? Other than the obvious reason of "bombs fall down", for missiles does it really matter? You can release missiles and have them start their rockets while safely off the rail for one thing. Or discard them if their motor fails.
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